Kazkal Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Dreaming but mybe we can get a 2nd! lol (sarcasm)well guess this is set in stone that were taking Hall,houston or revis or atleast a 2nd rounder. I just hope we don't have to start keiwan >_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadJohnson-85 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Anyone gotta link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Schefter claimed Atlanta's interest was very strong and claimed the chances of a trade were very good. Not sure what the compensation would be but Atlanta has plenty of firepower now. They have the #39 pick they got from Houston, their own 2nd round pick at #44, and the #75 pick in the 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjm47 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 I can't imagine that we'd get more than a 3rd for him. Even if we get a 2nd, does anybody really want to see Ratliff starting? That would also make our nickel back Stacy Andrews if I read the depth chart properly. (Maybe someone a little quicker than the Bear...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 It was on nfl network.I havent seen it anywhere else would be sweet atleast get a 3rd though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Unless we get at the very least a third rounder, I wouldn't like this. This speaks volumes to confirm the rumors about Deltha being in Marvin's doghouse, but Ratliff isn't a starter and I don't care to see any rookies starting the season either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjm47 Posted March 28, 2007 Report Share Posted March 28, 2007 Per Go-Bengals.com cap page, we'd save two million without #24's salary.Not really enough to bring in anybody much better than...Tory James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Saving two milion isn't anything to sneeze at, especially if O'Neal no longer figured in the Bengals plans due to a falling out with Marvin. That money could be very helpful in getting some of the Bengals tendered players signed or could be packaged with money freed up from signing Justin Smith to a long-term contract. I also think the Bengals MIGHT get more than a 3rd round pick in exchange for O'Neal. He's still young, has two years remaining on his contract, and is only one year removed from a Pro Bowl season that featured a buttload of interceptions. Best, even if the trade return was just a 3rd round pick....that's good enough. The Bengals could very easily turn an O'neal trade into a TE like Ben Patrick, a FS like Tanard Jackson, a CB like Tarrell Brown, or any number of very good prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 If you can't get at least a second rounder for a 2-time pro bowl cornerback, with punt return skills, then maybe it's time to hire a General Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroomytunes Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Well if we are to trade Deltha O'Neal to the Falcons than I am all for it. I would rather see us go in another direction at CB. Sure he had a great year 2 years ago, but where was he last year? IMHO we will not get a 1st or 2nd round pick for him, thats not gonna happen, but I would be exstatic if we could steal their 3rd rounder(75) for him. That would allow us so much flexability on the first day of the draft, I would love this scenerio.Rd 1: Darrell Revis(CB)-Pittsburgh. I think this guy will be a solid starter right away, and a future pro-bowler for years to come, and it gives us 2 very young and talented CB's.Rd 2: Tanard Jackson(CB/S)-Syracuse. This guy is a pure hitter in the secondary and could replace Ratliff as the nickle back right away, and be the eventual replacement of Dexter Jackson.rd 3: Rufus Alexander(OLB)-Oklahoma. This guy will provide solid depth on the outside and will push for playing time as the season wears on. He provides solid depth on a team weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 A 3rd would be ok w/me, although I hate to lose Deltha - granted I'm probably alone there - but when he's engaged and committed, he's one of the better CB's in the game. Even at his worst, he's still good.But if he's causing problems/cliques in the locker room and Marvin's had enough of the nonsense all-around, I can support that.They need some good guys on that team in the worst way, who like to play ball and compete, more than they want to party and get drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 If you can't get at least a second rounder for a 2-time pro bowl cornerback, with punt return skills, then maybe it's time to hire a General Manager. I hear Hoosier is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjm47 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 If Deltha does leave, is it safe to assume that Madieu starts opposite Joseph? Does that sell us out on Reggie Nelson in the first?Is safety an easier position for a rookie to step into than corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 I think Marvin is confident that Madieu can start at corner if needed. If this trade happens, we will pick the best DB (cb or S) available in the first round. There is a lot of CB's and S's in this draft and if we can pick up a third round pick and provide some solid depth behind Joseph and Madieu, I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Did Deltha Oneal run over Marvin's dog during that DUI last year? Sheesh.You know, we do have to have some corners next year. Madieu looked bad on some deep balls last year, I don't much like the idea of him at CB. Ratliff is horrible. JonJoe's looked good, but I don't think he's ready to be the #1 corner just yet.Even if they get a 2nd for him, and draft a CB, you'd rather not go into the opener with a rookie starting there.So is Deltha completely shot here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Did Deltha Oneal run over Marvin's dog during that DUI last year? Sheesh.You know, we do have to have some corners next year. Madieu looked bad on some deep balls last year, I don't much like the idea of him at CB. Ratliff is horrible. JonJoe's looked good, but I don't think he's ready to be the #1 corner just yet.Even if they get a 2nd for him, and draft a CB, you'd rather not go into the opener with a rookie starting there.So is Deltha completely shot here?I have mixed emotions about this scenario. Marvin thinks Deltha is a bad role model for the younger players. He comes to meetings late and he recieved a DUI. Then I looked at our roster and we only have Ratliff, Greg Jones, and Brandon Williams behind Joseph. We need another veteran if we make this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 The only thing I don't like about it is that it virtually locks us in to a 1st round CB. Don't get me wrong... a 1st round CB is my first preference. I just don't like the idea of being forced to do it. For instance: What if Landry fell to us, and Hall, Revis and Houston were already gone? (I know... that wouldn't happen in a million years... but you get the idea. Locking ourselves into a desperate need at any position often results in reach picks.I'm also not a huge fan of being forced to start a rookie CB in the very first game. Worse things have happened, but what if the guy just doesn't learn fast enough? We then have to go with Ratliff as the #2? I'm okay with trading Deltha if we get good compensation. He seems to need a change of scenery every 3 years, so it's probably best for all parties - but I could also see it backfiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjm47 Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 I'm not sure that you can ever rely on a rookie to be ready to start in the defensive backfield. So much of this rumor doesn't seem to make sense - why would the Falcons want Deltha when they have (I think) four or five day one picks? It seems like they could get somebody with a comparable skill set with one of those picks.The Falcons' coach also announced today or yesterday that Jimmy Williams will be starting next year, and it doesn't seem likely that Deltha could supplant D'Angelo Hall. Presumably, then, they want him for depth. If that's the case, $2million/year is a lot to pay for a nickel back (plus whatever signing bonus they'd have to give him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Dey Time Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Per Go-Bengals.com cap page, we'd save two million without #24's salary.Not really enough to bring in anybody much better than...Tory James.You sir, could be shipped straight to hell for that kind of thinking! (j/k)If this is true, there must be some type of plan to fill O'Neal's spot. Personally, a Joseph, Leon Hall CB tandem would suit me just fine.WHO-DEY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Saving two milion isn't anything to sneeze at, especially if O'Neal no longer figured in the Bengals plans due to a falling out with Marvin. That money could be very helpful in getting some of the Bengals tendered players signed or could be packaged with money freed up from signing Justin Smith to a long-term contract. I also think the Bengals MIGHT get more than a 3rd round pick in exchange for O'Neal. He's still young, has two years remaining on his contract, and is only one year removed from a Pro Bowl season that featured a buttload of interceptions. Best, even if the trade return was just a 3rd round pick....that's good enough. The Bengals could very easily turn an O'neal trade into a TE like Ben Patrick, a FS like Tanard Jackson, a CB like Tarrell Brown, or any number of very good prospects.Hell Take CB in 1st... (hall,revis or houston) then a CB in 3rd like Fred Bennett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Hell Take CB in 1st... (hall,revis or houston) then a CB in 3rd like Fred Bennett I could dig it. With a LB or S in the second, that'd be a huge boost to our damaged depth. Given Marvin's impressive track record drafting on the second day, that'd shape up to be quite a collection of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 29, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Aye. I'd love to see1.)top CB available2.)Durant or other LB3.)Bennett4.)Payne or soliai5.)Payne or soliai (I can hope!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 If we do land a third rounder, that'd make Soliai all that much more possible (because I doubt he'll be there in the 4th). It's probably a pipe dream though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 Deltha s a pot head big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK Bengal Posted March 29, 2007 Report Share Posted March 29, 2007 spain must be right because it takes one to know one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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