DuffMan Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Im watching cold pizza interview Lawrence Timmons about his combine training. Says right now he's benching 225 about 27 times (hopes to get to 30) and running in the low 4.5s (hopes to get to 4.4s). If Timmons runs a sub-4.5 and benches 30+ at the combine, and somehow manages to get down to the 18th pick, would you take him over any other defensive prospect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Not if Willis or Landry are still on the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 Whether he is able to squeeze a little extra out of that 40 time is irrelevant to me... but yes, he's my favorite linebacker in the draft. Landry looks like a better prospect, but I don't want a safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 The 40 time is pretty over-rated... but if you have a LB that is running the 40 faster than a lot of the CB's that would be available, you've almost got to take him. One of our problems on the weak-side is the ability of our LB's in pass-coverage. A LB that is that quick should not have so much of a problem covering most TE's (one of our biggest weaknesses in the past several years), and Timmons is also very good as a pass-rusher. To answer the question... it depends completely on who is available... but to have physical specimens like Brooks and Timmons on the same squad would be straight scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 We don't have good history with FLorida State players too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 It be hard choice between timmons and willis...but I could see timmons going first.The 40 time is pretty over-rated...They are overrated but they do help judge speed alittle....but even if hall ran 4.38 I'd still say hell no to him because of how slow he plays on the field... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 The 40 time is over-rated. No player can run a 4.3 in the NFL with pads and equipment on. Reggie Bush can't, he runs like a 4.5 with all the Pads on, which is fast for a player with equipment on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 21, 2007 Report Share Posted February 21, 2007 The 40 time is over-rated. No player can run a 4.3 in the NFL with pads and equipment on. Reggie Bush can't, he runs like a 4.5 with all the Pads on, which is fast for a player with equipment onYa but reggie is faster with pads on then all those players who diden't run 4.3 with pads on their selfs....Jjoe is faster with pads on then any 1st rnd cb prospects this year...it's more way measure it but really you know if a player is fast or not without the combine.You don't need a 40time to know Timmons is faster then Willis,pos or most other high LB prospects...but I don't want a safety.Though even if we took one I don't wanna see madieu play corner outside of nickel packages,but we could use a young guy who would be future starter behind dexter who really hasen't had full season for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 The reason the 40 time is over-rated is because there is a skill to getting off to a quick start. A guy could have a slow 40 time just because he hasn't been trained well on how to start quickly. Inversely, a guy who doesn't really play all that fast on the field can havea deceptively fast 40 time if he has a history of running track.All of that to say... I don't put a ton of stock in the 40 times. However, a LB running a 4.4 is impressive regardless of prior training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Ya agreed it is overrated but like you said LB running 4.4 or dwight freeney running 4.4 is preatty impressive....but most time players like Hall or Mccauley I agree it's overrated you know hall is slower then crap his 40 doesn't matter...you know Mccauley is a burner and probbley fastest top 10 CB in this years draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 If we drafted Timmons And we find out Odell returns as a bengal,what spots do you see each player matching up best at? out of brooks,odell & timmons.mybe Wlb:Timmons,MLb:Odell-SLB:Brooks-Same thing if we did happen to draft willis what do think best future combo would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 If we drafted Timmons And we find out Odell returns as a bengal which postion do you think would be best for the young studs? Out of Odell,timmons and brooks who do you see making best WLB?I'm not sure he'd make the best WLB, but I think he'd fit there the best among the three... Timmons. Odell seems to be a natural for MLB, and Brooks' pass rush ability would make him a fine SLB. Odell would probably be a better WLB than Timmons, but I'd rather keep him inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 22, 2007 Report Share Posted February 22, 2007 Well perk having timmons on weak mybe is make that much easier attack from either OLB postion...with having brooks on one side timmons on another.... I agree with keeping odell at MLB we wearn't calling him baby ray for nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Timmons is growing on me. Even more than Willis. I'm of the opinion that Odell is gone and Brooks is the future at MLB. Pollack could come back... but if not, Jeanty is suitable there (at least short term). Timmons has the skills to be good enough in pass coverage for weak-side, and would be well above average as a pass-rusher on the weak-side.All of that to say... Simmons is old and his replacement needs to be found sooner than later. Timmons could easily be that guy (and we'd only have to change one letter on the jersey).Timmons might be the guy I want more than anyone right now... but honestly I don't much care. For some reason there are a high number of guys that I'd be extremely happy with this year. Timmons is just the that is growing on me the fastest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 Even if Odell isen't though timmons is a good pick, you get 3 playmaking LB's at all 3 postions... if not you get servicable starter in either landon or jeanty depending where they wanna play timmons of odell is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrod382 Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 I'm all for Timmons and think he's Marvin's kind of LB. That speed and cover skills he would be an awesome WLB, plus he had a crazy amount of TFL's last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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