BersMrnsT Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Forgive me if this is all in the one of the pinned threads, but i just don't want to read through all of those so I'll start a new one Anyways, as of now, what's everyone's opinion on who/what position should be taken with our pick. All those Senior Bowl reports have convinced me that Carriker is the way to go as he is apparently an extremely well-rounded DE. I'm not completely in love with Okoye because I would prefer more of a space eater and stay away from more underweight DT's. As far as LB, someone like David Harris would give us great value in Round 2, which is why I believe we can hold off selecting an LB in Round 1. At the same time though I wouldn't be upset with a DB.Basically, anyone who plays defense should be a good pickup, I just wanted so see what all your guys' thoughts are at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Forgive me if this is all in the one of the pinned threads, but i just don't want to read through all of those so I'll start a new one Anyways, as of now, what's everyone's opinion on who/what position should be taken with our pick. All those Senior Bowl reports have convinced me that Carriker is the way to go as he is apparently an extremely well-rounded DE. I'm not completely in love with Okoye because I would prefer more of a space eater and stay away from more underweight DT's. As far as LB, someone like David Harris would give us great value in Round 2, which is why I believe we can hold off selecting an LB in Round 1. At the same time though I wouldn't be upset with a DB.Basically, anyone who plays defense should be a good pickup, I just wanted so see what all your guys' thoughts are at the moment. Carriker, I'd pass on Carriker I'd rather resign justin and use pick on something more useful if were gonna take DE who can't rush the passer.Okoye,Can't argue agaist his production but I'm tired of undersized DT's :/ Tyler,Not worth 18th selection IMO Pitcock, Undersized NT who is just a popular homer pick Abiamiri, See Tank WillisIf I was the GM it would take me about 2 seconds turn in the pick for willis Posluszny, I like Pos and woulden't mind the pick Revis, Who do you take?I dunno I like CB so who ever Marvin and Co think will be the best corner in 2 years.Jamaal Anderson if we took a DE he's who I want Round 2 I like Fred Bennett,Desmong Bishop & chris houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Pat Willis for shore. Look at the kid, he is a beast. He is absolutley flawless. He can easily be a DMVP in the coming years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I <3 Amobi Okoye (time to start pimping draft prospects).He'd be such a great fit on our line. He'd fill Thornton's role in the longrun, and he'd do it better than Thornton ever did. Right now he is projected to be gone when we pick though. Pitcock blows.I like most of the LB prospects too, but not Posluszny. He seems to lack the athleticism we tend to look for at that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroomytunes Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Well I would trade down a few spots to gain a pick later but in that spot I like in order:1) Patrick Willis(LB)2)Jamall Anderson(DE)3)Laron Landry(S) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Right now Anderson and Landry look like they'll be long gone at #18. In terms of mock projections, I expect Anderson to stay put in the top ten through the combine, and Landry to hover around the between the lower top ten and our pick. I like our chances to land Willis though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStop85 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Okoye's a beast...not to mention that's he only 19.Willis is also a beast...If either of these two are still on the board when the Bengals pick, they have to draft them. Although, I wouldn't mind Posluszny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Of that bunch there, it'd have to be Okoye. He's not what the Bengals really need on the field as he is right now except as a pass rusher but he would serve more of a purpose than the rest with the runner-up being Revis.Willis can't handle the coverage the Bengals require of a MLB. They've got a straight forward tackling machine just like him already at MLB in Ahmad Brooks.Carriker is probably going to get pegged as a 3-4 DE in maybe the late 1st or 1st half of 2nd. He wouldn't add much to the Bengals, except for some back-up versatility.The rest would be wastes.Despite all the huff and puff about Jamaal Anderson, the combine should show him for what he is -- a LDE for a 4-3 who also has the potential to kick down to RDT for pass rushing. As time goes, he'll most likely be considered less of a Top 10 pick than the 2nd round prospect the NFL draft evaluation committee told him he was.As for the CBs, Revis is more like a Chris Mac. He won't be handling any slot receivers. I expect for the combine to show that the #1 CB in the draft is going to turn out to be Chris Houston who has already shown he can do it all. The ringer with Revis, though, is he should be among the leaders in punt returns so long as he don't go on a muff spree like he did vs. Cincinnati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 The rest would be wastes.Yeah, but which one is the biggest waste? Whoever it is gets my vote. Chris Perry's about played out, and I think we really need a new SUPERSTAR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I wouldn't mine Okoye, he is going to be a beast. But i think his stock has probably risen since the Senior Bowl so he might be long gone. Willis, or Okoye I wouldnt mine at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 My short list starts with Revis.....in part because I think the Bengals would get more immediate bang for the buck by adding another stud CB than any other position provides. His selection would also quiet the debate about drafting players with poor character, and I'm guessing we could all use a break from that rant. Punt return skills are a plus, but to be honest I wouldn't use him in that role unless other options were injured. Instead, I'd use Revis and Joseph as core defensive building blocks to team with Madieu at FS. I'd put Okoye next, and maybe higher than Revis, but I've got growing doubts that Okoye will be available when the Bengals pick. Of course Tank Tyler will be, but I couldn't pull the trigger on that guy in the 1st or 2nd round. Not when I can get a player of comparable value in the 4th. As for Carriker, I pimped him for awhile several months ago, cooled on him when he disappeared, and then fell for him all over again at the Senior Bowl. I do worry a little bit about him fitting into the Bengals plans, but in the end all I see is an outstanding prospect who, if developed properly, should be a better player in the NFL than in college. And just for the record, if you could get him to play a little bit lower I doubt he'd remain a backup very long. As for Willis, I like the guy well enough but forgive me...I don't see anything special. In fact, the same is true of Abiamiri, Pitcock, and Posluszny. So if all three of the previously mentioned players are gone at #18 I think I'd turn pretty quickly to the next highest rated CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Landry or Nelson woulden't be bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Landry or Nelson woulden't be bad either. Yeah, I forgot to mention Nelson but it slipped my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Another guy whose name is getting tossed around increasingly is Georgia DE Charles Johnson. (Just what the Bengals need, another C. Johnson jersey on the rack. ) Perdue DE Anthony Spencer has crept back on a couple radar screens, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Heard johnson is suppossed be a stud...but how quick is he at 6'2 270? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 okoye hands down this guy if he is not there then posluszny. i don't know much about revis. don't care to much for willis after watching him get trucked by hunt in the senior bowl. no way a mlb should get ran over by a back that is smaller than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Heard johnson is suppossed be a stud...but how quick is he at 6'2 270?Quick enough to pile up a boatload of sacks and hurries. The big question surrounding him is whether he's really that good, or just benefitted from playing opposite Quentin Moses. Right now he seems to be pegged as a late 1/early 2 pick, but if he has a good combine he could move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Most of the recent mocks I've seen have Charles Johnson taken before Quentin Moses, so I think that question can go either way - much like Mario Williams vs. Manny Lawson vs. John McCargo of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenbengal14 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 1. Alan Branch DT Michigan( I have a feeling that he will slip and if he does we cannot pass this stud up, Akoye I believe is a younger and more talented Peko)2.Rufus Alexander LB Oklahoma( I love watching him and he would look good in stripes, was all over the field against Boise State)Something that I noticed watching Ohio State play tghis year is how well Roy Hall played at some points in the season, he has a te body and I would like to see him get picked in the 2nd day or free agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 okoye hands down this guy if he is not there then posluszny. i don't know much about revis. don't care to much for willis after watching him get trucked by hunt in the senior bowl. no way a mlb should get ran over by a back that is smaller than him.hunt is 245-260Willis is 238Alan BranchBeing more or less the same player as ngata he very well could be in range for us to select ,I doubt he'll be there at 18 but if he is I won't be shocked..it's more reasonable then people saying he's top 5 pick for sure...with that being said he's really the only DT I want at 18 could you picture him and peko playing next to each other for next 5 or more years? "drools" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Willis is the best defensive player in this draft hands down, he is a playmaker. Just because he got trucked once doesnt mean he isnt a good player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I dunno if he's best but i'd still take him try improve his coverage and let brooks take over for pollack eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 okoye hands down this guy if he is not there then posluszny. i don't know much about revis. don't care to much for willis after watching him get trucked by hunt in the senior bowl. no way a mlb should get ran over by a back that is smaller than him.hunt is 245-260Willis is 238Alan BranchBeing more or less the same player as ngata he very well could be in range for us to select ,I doubt he'll be there at 18 but if he is I won't be shocked..it's more reasonable then people saying he's top 5 pick for sure...with that being said he's really the only DT I want at 18 could you picture him and peko playing next to each other for next 5 or more years? "drools"hunt is 230 willis is 240. i like how you added weight to hunt. i am not trying to bash willis i just think he is week when teams run right at him. if he is drafted by us i will support him. i will give willis his props though he did end up being the south's defensive mvp for the senior bowl. i just think a cover corner or a guy that can get to the qb are more of a need than another lb. good corners can make a bad d-line look good and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Here you go cincy, someone running right at willis...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bM4sEmaFLQdoesn't look weak too me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattyjay Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I still say we need a safety in the first. Landry, Nelson, or Griffin, whoever is still left. We need someone to lay the wood in the secondary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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