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I have always liked Mike Singletary, because he has the knowledge and passion to lead a defense. But, with Jim Mora being fired I am starting to think we should nab him before he is taken.

Yeah, it's occurred to me too. Speculation (read: PFT) says that Mora's comments on-air about ditching any NFL gig at any time for the UW job might keep him out of the league in the short-term. He's never struck me as the TV type either, so I figure we're as good as any other team to grab him for a DC job. He needs to stay in the league, it's sometimes hard to get back in once you've been out (apparantly unless you run a bed-and-breakfast).

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I have always liked Mike Singletary, because he has the knowledge and passion to lead a defense. But, with Jim Mora being fired I am starting to think we should nab him before he is taken.

Yeah, it's occurred to me too. Speculation (read: PFT) says that Mora's comments on-air about ditching any NFL gig at any time for the UW job might keep him out of the league in the short-term. He's never struck me as the TV type either, so I figure we're as good as any other team to grab him for a DC job. He needs to stay in the league, it's sometimes hard to get back in once you've been out (apparantly unless you run a bed-and-breakfast).

Though Singletary was a teammate of Leslie Frazier, he might not have agreed with the way Leslie was treated by Marvin when he was with the Bengals and doesn't want to get the shaft the same way.

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Why would Marvin want to fire Bresnahan??

I think Bres runs the schemes that Lewis wants him to and takes the heat for it....

What better scenario to have than that?

Because Bresnehan sucks? If Marvin's "scheme" is called "run the same blitz over and over", then he definitely isn't the defensive genius, the reputation of which got him the job.

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I mentioned this in the coaches-getting-fired thread on the NFL board but it may bear repeating here:

Back in '03, Marvins first choice for defensive coordinator was Falcons assisstant Emmitt Thomas. Bio here: http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/coachBio.jsp?id=1921

The Falcons refused to let Marvin interview him for the position. But with Mora out, Thomas could be headed out the door too. Depends on how much housecleaning whoever they hire is going to do. Anyhow, I have to think Thomas would be at the top of any list...if indeed Marvin makes a change.

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But if falcons defense has been bleh :P would we really want him?

Why would Marvin want to fire Bresnahan??

I think Bres runs the schemes that Lewis wants him to and takes the heat for it....

What better scenario to have than that?

Because Bresn sucks and I'm tired of prevent 90% of the time

I rather bring Leslie Frazier, back then keep chuck

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I mentioned this in the coaches-getting-fired thread on the NFL board but it may bear repeating here:

Back in '03, Marvins first choice for defensive coordinator was Falcons assisstant Emmitt Thomas. Bio here: http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/coachBio.jsp?id=1921

The Falcons refused to let Marvin interview him for the position. But with Mora out, Thomas could be headed out the door too. Depends on how much housecleaning whoever they hire is going to do. Anyhow, I have to think Thomas would be at the top of any list...if indeed Marvin makes a change.

The guys 63 and probably doesn't have much left in the tank. I'd prefer someone a tad younger ^_^ Although, I do like what he did with the falcons secondary in his first year as the secondary coach, 31st pass defense in the NFL in 2001 to 16th in 2002. Sounds like exactl what the bengals could use!

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I mentioned this in the coaches-getting-fired thread on the NFL board but it may bear repeating here:

Back in '03, Marvins first choice for defensive coordinator was Falcons assisstant Emmitt Thomas. Bio here: http://www.atlantafalcons.com/team/coachBio.jsp?id=1921

The Falcons refused to let Marvin interview him for the position. But with Mora out, Thomas could be headed out the door too. Depends on how much housecleaning whoever they hire is going to do. Anyhow, I have to think Thomas would be at the top of any list...if indeed Marvin makes a change.

The guys 63 and probably doesn't have much left in the tank. I'd prefer someone a tad younger ^_^ Although, I do like what he did with the falcons secondary in his first year as the secondary coach, 31st pass defense in the NFL in 2001 to 16th in 2002. Sounds like exactl what the bengals could use!

His age doesn't matter that much, some of the best D-coordinators in the game are in their 60s like Monte Kiffin, Dick Lebeau, and Jim Johnson.

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Im not sure that marvin is going to let Bres go he said there is not going to be any major coaching changes, so im not sure he is leting him go which is bull. I would also like to see Henderson in here i think he would make a great def coach, he loves to blitz and get pressure. I will be very pissed if marvin dosnt let Chuck go what a joke for a def cordinator, i never wanted to see someone leave so bad.

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Im not sure that marvin is going to let Bres go he said there is not going to be any major coaching changes,

Well, don't forget he said there weren't going to be any coaching changes in '03 and then turned around and canned Frazier just about the next day. I agree, right now it doesn't look like there will be a change but give it a little time.

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Im not sure that marvin is going to let Bres go he said there is not going to be any major coaching changes, so im not sure he is leting him go which is bull. I would also like to see Henderson in here i think he would make a great def coach, he loves to blitz and get pressure. I will be very pissed if marvin dosnt let Chuck go what a joke for a def cordinator, i never wanted to see someone leave so bad.

i read the same thing and thought what the hell. how can you keep bresh. marvin must be trying to get out of cincy because keeping bresh will only turn the fans against him and start calling for his head. if bresh is not fired then i will lose all faith in marvin. what is the chance we could get tressel before the clowns try to get him.

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I know many may find this a bit of a reach, but I think one name that might very well move up to the 'coordinator' ranks in the next couple years is Darren Perry (current DB coach of Steelers). He was obviously in Cincy with LeBeau. He sure seems to be a quality coach, and word has it that he may very well be next in line behind LeBeau, whenever he decides to call it quits. He has played in the 3-4, and coached it for several years. Should we really be considering such a scheme change (not sure with the suspension and injuries), he might be a guy to consider. Has the knowledge, experience, and we would be ripping off the big divisional foe in the process. Just a thought.

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If the defense continues to stink next year and Bres is still around, well Marvin will have cost himself some major supporters. He almost has to go Jack Del Rio and make changes to say that 8-8 is not acceptable around here anymore. He has got to hold his coaching staff accountable, most have been here for 4 years and the Bengals have been mediocre for 3 of those years.

I love Marvin to death, but this year is a make or break year for him. I hope he realizes that, maybe he needs to be on the hot seat.

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They will stick with bresh no doubt. Someone in the front office should really step up and just admit that we need a change. If bresh stays, we'll suck again. He's terrible and will not get better..

Oakland got rid of Bresh after the 2004 season and at this point they are one of the top defenses in the league. What happened there? Who is their DC now?

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It's been mentioned once or twice in passing, but I'll bring it up again. What if we could possibly steal Lebeau back from the Steelers? I'd be 100% for it.

He's a Cincy guy, and has worked with Marvin, but I cannot imagine how in the world that would work out. Comes back to work under Marvin after being fired in favor of Marvin? Doubt they would do that ... or even if he would do that.

Related, I expect the guy to retire sometime in the near future. If not now, sometime in the next year or two.

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Oakland got rid of Bresh after the 2004 season and at this point they are one of the top defenses in the league. What happened there? Who is their DC now?

even with highly ranked superbowl defense he got canned because he sucks at his job.ala the reason why he was assistiant for us afterwords rather DC somewhere else.

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