rwjcgc Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Shayne - take the blame on this latest choke-up on your way out the door.Perhaps you should spend more time practicing and less time writing yourhack column. As neither appear to be your strong suit, I'd look for another occupation(or in the best of worlds, employment w/ one of the Bengals' rivals).To take offense w/ your article's premise, placing blame on you and getting you out of here will accomplish at least one thing. It will remove the doubt over your abilities and intestinal fortitude when a game win stands in the balance and you come out with your simpleton grin in place. I don't want to revist that personal He!! ever again.Disappointed, but trust remains Column by Shayne Graham Every one of our fans has seen the way our game on Sunday ended.The first thing I'd like to say is there's nobody that I trust more than Brad St. Louis and Kyle Larson.Look, we'd all love to take the blame for what happened. But we would never want to point our finger at anyone because we trust each other. We depend on one another for everything we do - the whole operation.Assigning blame accomplishes nothing.I know Brad's going to snap it and Kyle will hold it. I never expect anything bad to happen. It didn't work for us on Sunday, and that hurts.It's hard to accept, but we're pros. We will come back against Pittsburgh and make up for it. We have to do our best to come back from it, and we will.There are certain things our fans expect. They expect Carson to get the ball to Chad and that Brian and Landon will make tackles. It is expected that Justin and Robert will sack the quarterback and that the offensive line will block for Rudy.But it is easy to forget that as commonplace as those things are, they just don't happen magically. Numerous hours are spent - starting at Georgetown in training camp - so the team can execute the necessary components for a victory. You play the game and it comes down to execution. We have high percentages on certain plays, but that certainly doesn't make them routine.If you take them for granted, then things don't go right. To get the desired results, you have to focus on every play. I would bet money on our routine 100 percent of the time, so I'm not going to think twice about it next week. I haven't lost faith in the operation or in the guys who execute it.I hope everybody had a great holiday season and that all our fans have a Happy New Year. Cheer loud, but more importantly, be safe on New Year's Eve.Bengals place-kicker Shayne Graham's column appears on Thursdays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDey93285 Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Shayne Graham choked this time. But he's still a very good kicker. Getting rid of him will accomplish nothing, and you're not a smart person if you think so. Best kicker we've had in a long long time, and he isn't going anywhere.I think he has like the eighth best FG % in NFL history or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Cutting Shayne Graham would be an absolutely ridiculous course of action. No. He has been as reliable as can be until today. He's not Mike Vanderjagt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjcgc Posted December 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Vanderjagt is a great kicker too if you mean he has the ability to kick the ball through the uprights.Would I want him on my team? NoGraham is now tainted goods, his screw-ups will be constantly refererred to in the future. Better to move him in my opinion for team psyche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Vanderjagt is a great kicker too if you mean he has the ability to kick the ball through the uprights.Would I want him on my team? NoGraham is now tainted goods, his screw-ups will be constantly refererred to in the future. Better to move him in my opinion for team psyche.I meant that he isn't Vanderjagt in a GOOD way. Vandy makes a lot of kicks, but he is the biggest choker I've ever seen in a kicker. Graham is not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjcgc Posted December 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 [I meant that he isn't Vanderjagt in a GOOD way. Vandy makes a lot of kicks, but he is the biggest choker I've ever seen in a kicker. Graham is not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 It was that damn chapstick he was putting on...it jinxed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalspride1219 Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 i dont like how he smiled after he missed the k ick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 i dont like how he smiled after he missed the k ickEh, he was just trying to stay positive. I doubt his facial expression really reflected the thoughts he had going through his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjcgc Posted December 31, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 TDB,Are you willing to admit that the comments in his column were weak?"Look, we'd all love to take the blame for what happened." What a crock!Like I wrote earlier, I can't wait to read how he spins this debacle in his next column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 TDB,Are you willing to admit that the comments in his column were weak?"Look, we'd all love to take the blame for what happened." What a crock!Like I wrote earlier, I can't wait to read how he spins this debacle in his next column.Those columns usually are a crock. If he comes out this week and defers blame to someone else, then I'll agree... but I don't expect that. He seems humble enough to me to know when it is right to point the finger at himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalSIS Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I can tell you, he'll take the blame. Perfect spot, perfect snap/hold...he just missed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 He's a good guy, but that was about as good of a Scott Norwood impression as I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalSIS Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 He's a good guy, but that was about as good of a Scott Norwood impression as I've ever seen.Sorry, gotta disagree with ya there. The kick looked good most of the way in...and wasn't that far off at the end. Not a complete failure as a kick, and I STILL want the freakin wind patterns checked. I think a football god yanked that at the end. s**t, the ball didn't even spin right at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwjcgc Posted January 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 BengalSIS,Face it, Graham choked under the pressure. The "gods" didn't have anything to do with it.He seems like a nice guy, but when the team needed him most he failed. His name will be mud for quite a while to Bengals fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 BengalSIS,Face it, Graham choked under the pressure. The "gods" didn't have anything to do with it.He seems like a nice guy, but when the team needed him most he failed. His name will be mud for quite a while to Bengals fans.Well if your going to blame Graham you might as well blame the def. to, what we scored and with about 2:something minutes to go they go right down the field and tie it up...and then dont do squat in overtime.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalSIS Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 BengalSIS,Face it, Graham choked under the pressure. The "gods" didn't have anything to do with it.He seems like a nice guy, but when the team needed him most he failed. His name will be mud for quite a while to Bengals fans.He's still to blame for the kick, but if you have it taped, I challenge you to look again at the ball path and the flags on the poles.He takes full credit for miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDey93285 Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 BengalSis, make sure you tell Shayne to keep his head up. We all still have faith in him. We don't want a Mike Vanderjact situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 BengalSIS,Face it, Graham choked under the pressure. The "gods" didn't have anything to do with it.He seems like a nice guy, but when the team needed him most he failed. His name will be mud for quite a while to Bengals fans.He's still to blame for the kick, but if you have it taped, I challenge you to look again at the ball path and the flags on the poles.He takes full credit for miss. I thought it was good too until it veered sharply right at the last second. Wind had to be a factor somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laserluver Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 I'm a new poster here and a long time Bengals fan (since 1968). I think that Shane Graham must go. I know that some of you are probably not in agreement with my feelings and I'm not scapegoating him for missing the game winning field goal although it did effectively end the Bengals playoff hopes because there wouldn't have been OT had he made it. In fact, there are many other problems that need to be corrected on this team, from the run defense, right on up to poor decision making by the coaching staff. However, the reason that I feel that Graham must go is because of his frequent pathetic lack of distance on kickoffs in crucial situations. This deficiency reared it's ugly head once again today in the 4th quarter after the Bengals had scored to take the lead with the TD pass to either Henry or Stewart, I forget which. On the ensuing kickoff, Graham didn't even get the ball to the 20 yard line! Add in poor coverage on the return and the Steelers offense started that possession with the ball on the 40 yard line. With the way that Roethlisberger and company were moving through the Bengals D like a knife through butter, you can't give them that kind of field position when the entire season is riding on it. I don't care how accurate he is with field goals (which he wasn't today). They definitely need a kicker who can get the ball into or near the end zone consistently, especially in situations like today. For that reason, I think that the Bengals need to look for another kicker and to let Graham go. And maybe he can take Brad St. Louis with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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