BCS scenario

[bengalboomer7]

Well, 20 minutes until we find out who the Buckeye gonna beat. Coaches poll leaning towards UF

My thoughts

Michigan is the second best team in the country. If the BCS is all about finding the two best teams this should be the game, regardless.

But I do feel somewhat like everyone else, Michigan had it's chance and it's someone else's turn.

Either way, i don't think it ends quite right, except for OSU winning, of course

[BlainThePain]

Michigan won the turnover battle 3-0 and still couldn't beat Ohio State. They don't deserve another shot. If Michigan did get in and beat Ohio State than you would have a national champion that didn't even win their own conference. Florida deserves it over Michigan and this is coming from a person that hates Florida more than any other football program in college.

[bengalboomer7]

The BCS sole responsibility is to pick the two best teams in college football. I don't diagree with anything you said, only I don't think Florida is a better team than Michigan

[101Airborne]

I hate Michigan more than any other program in the nation, but I have to agree with Bengalboomer. There are tons of good reasons why Michigan should not replay OSU for the championship but they are all pretty moot in my opinion. The two best teams in the nation should play for the National Championship. Now, while this is a slippery slope full of subjectivity, homerism and opinion, I have heard a tiny minority who actually think Florida is better than Michigan. If they use the polls to pick Florida when Michigan is the better team, then they are being fradulent with their votes.

If the BCS system needs to be changed then change it, but they should not be cheating Florida's way into the championship based on things that should not be considered. If Florida is the better team they should go, if it'sMichigan, they should. The idea that Michigan should not go because they did not win their conference is BS to me too. A team does not have to win its conference to be the second best team, so why is this even a factor? If it is a factor, we should be playing Boise State, no questions asked.

To conclude my point, the BCS is supposed to match up the two best teams in the nation to play for the Championship. If the majority think that Michigan is, in fact, a better all around football team than Florida, and do not vote to reflect that fact, they are cheating Michigan.

[Stripes]

I'm glad it ended up Florida, but I don't think that's how it should have gone.

[Kazkal]

They diden't want OSU to lose.

[BengalPimp]

Bottom Line is this...............

Everybody knows the BCS (Bull-Crap-Selecting) system SUCKS. And because we know that, and the

criticism it gets from the Writers/coaches there was no way in hell they would allow there to be a re-match

Mich vs OSU even though they are the 2 best teams in college football.

Follow me on this one..... If Michigan and OSU played again, and this time Michigan won, then both teams

would have the same exact record, with their only loss coming against each other. The BCS knows that, and

doesnt want to have to deal with it, and who should be #1 so they leave Michigan out.

Michigan got ROBBED, and here's why......

Michigan and Florida both have 1 loss, both have 11 wins that count --------

(Florida's win against (2-9)Powerhouse from division 1AA Western Carolina doesnt count cuz there not 1A)

...but aside from the 1 loss Michigan's (who doesnt schedule 1AA opponents) closest game was a 7 point

victory over Penn State

However, Florida (aside from the 1 loss) was lucky to escape TWICE with 1 point victories over Tennessee and (UNRANKED) South Carolina.

BUT HERE'S THE BIG ONE..........

FLORIDA'S LOSS WAS TO #10 RANKED AUBURN

MICHIGAN'S LOSS WAS TO #1 RANKED OHIO STATE ON THE ROAD PLAYING AT OHIO STATE

THATS THE PROOF THAT MICHIGAN IS THE 2ND BEST TEAM IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, THE ONLY TEAM TO BEAT THEM WAS THE #1 TEAM (BY ONLY 3 POINTS AND PLAYING AT OHIO STATE)

HOW CAN FLORIDA BE #2 WITH THE SAME RECORD, BUT LOST TO THE #10 TEAM(BY 10 POINTS) ?

.....THE ANSWER? THE BCS ( Bull-Crap-Selecting) system

[MacD BengalFan]

The one item the BCS should add to the equation is whether a team win's its conferance or not. It would help eliminate this nonsense about whether a team who did not win it's conferance gets the right to play in the National Championship game.

[schweinhart]

Florida has got some bigtime ballers on D but they're also getting depleted. In the SEC championship they lost a starting safety, a DE and Ray McDonald. Hopefully those 3 can go after a month off. It was good to see Brandon Siler playing with a vengeance and Earl Everett looking like he's almost full speed off an ankle sprain but a halway decent QB can destroy Florida's medicore corners in Reggiw Lewis and Ryan Smith if the Gators can't come up with the guns up front to hurry throws.

On offense there is no question that Urban Meyer will unveil looks that Jim Tressel has never seen and I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot more of Tim Tebow at QB than normal. Chris Leak is the main culprit why the Gators have a loss this year and haven't been able to put lesser teams away but if he becomes willing to run the spread option for at least 1 game with full prep and commitment behind him, he can definitely do it with some success.

[BlainThePain]

Bottom Line is this...............

Everybody knows the BCS (Bull-Crap-Selecting) system SUCKS. And because we know that, and the

criticism it gets from the Writers/coaches there was no way in hell they would allow there to be a re-match

Mich vs OSU even though they are the 2 best teams in college football.

Follow me on this one..... If Michigan and OSU played again, and this time Michigan won, then both teams

would have the same exact record, with their only loss coming against each other. The BCS knows that, and

doesnt want to have to deal with it, and who should be #1 so they leave Michigan out.

Michigan got ROBBED, and here's why......

Michigan and Florida both have 1 loss, both have 11 wins that count --------

(Florida's win against (2-9)Powerhouse from division 1AA Western Carolina doesnt count cuz there not 1A)

...but aside from the 1 loss Michigan's (who doesnt schedule 1AA opponents) closest game was a 7 point

victory over Penn State

However, Florida (aside from the 1 loss) was lucky to escape TWICE with 1 point victories over Tennessee and (UNRANKED) South Carolina.

BUT HERE'S THE BIG ONE..........

FLORIDA'S LOSS WAS TO #10 RANKED AUBURN

MICHIGAN'S LOSS WAS TO #1 RANKED OHIO STATE ON THE ROAD PLAYING AT OHIO STATE

THATS THE PROOF THAT MICHIGAN IS THE 2ND BEST TEAM IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL, THE ONLY TEAM TO BEAT THEM WAS THE #1 TEAM (BY ONLY 3 POINTS AND PLAYING AT OHIO STATE)

HOW CAN FLORIDA BE #2 WITH THE SAME RECORD, BUT LOST TO THE #10 TEAM(BY 10 POINTS) ?

.....THE ANSWER? THE BCS ( Bull-Crap-Selecting) system

Actually the answer is Florida had the toughest schedule in the country. They played 10 bowl eligible teams.

[bengalboomer7]

What bothered me the most is the fact that it took two weeks after Michigan was done with their season for this to happen. The human voters decided this for themselves, and decided to switch it around so the system looks better. It just seemed fishy to me.

[derekshank]

There is no "proof" that either team is better. Do I think Michigan is better than Florida? Yes I do... but they haven't played each other, so I can't say it is obvious. Michigan hasn't beaten a whole ton of quality opponents, and we might be viewing this whole thing differently if it hadn't been for a TD and 2-point conversion in garbage time. Had OSU won by 11, I doubt there would be much outcry.

The point is, Florida played a really tough schedule and came out with the same record as Michigan. Michigan had a shot at OSU, and came up short. Florida deserves a shot.

Did voters pick what they felt were the 2 best teams? I don't know... you'd have to ask them. But OSU didn't have much style when they won the national title. No one expected them to have a prayer against Miami. I very much doubt that Florida has a chance... but you can't just discount them. I don't think Florida is tne 2nd best team in the country... but they did as much as any other team to get a shot at the title, so they deserve and opportunity.

[Stripes]

What I don't understand is why Jim Tressel is hearing so much crap for declining a vote. What's the big deal?

[101Airborne]

Wining your conference shoul not even be considered IMO. Boise State is undefeated, who thinks they should be playing for the title? Also, if wining your conference becomes a pre-requisite to playing in the big game, ND is either screwed or gets an unfair edge. As far as Florida's strength of schedule, it would not even be considered if they had lost two, and yet that is exactly what's keeping Boise State out of the big game. Every excuse for Florida to go is either matched by Boise State or is being used as a double standard against them. Now, do I think Boise State should play? No, they are not the second best team in the country. Is Florida second best? I don't think so, and it seems like the majority does not either. I totally understand why people want Florida to go, I even agree that they should have a chance to go, but I think it needs to be done by changing the system, not simply allowing people to abuse the system to create a certain outcome.

As to the comment about them simply not wanting OSU to lose, what in the world makes anyone think Michigan would be more successful a second time around? They played a great great game while OSU made three huge turnovers. Michigan was given every chance to win and FAILED. There is no reason whatsoever to think that a second go would come out with TSUN on top. Screw Michigan, I freaking HATE them, but I still think they are getting robbed.

[bengalboomer7]

I'm not so much arguing for Michigan or against Florida as I am pointing out how much the sytem failed here. Michigan's season and 1 loss was two weeks ago. It wasn't enough that week to move them ahead of Mich,or the next week, and now finally this week it is? Did you guys see the sudden voter turnaround that just suddenly happened.

They based their decisions on a conference championship and not wanting a rematch. And i guess that's OK, only thats not following their rules for picking a team to play for the title. It was just fishy to me

[DuffMan]

The whole thing is pretty screwed up, but am i the only one who thought the OSU vs. Mich game was pretty lopsided? The score is what matters in the end, but take away a few botched snaps and how does the game look? Everyone concentrates on Michigan's last game, if you do the same thing for Florida and then factor in Florida's sched (plus or minus the creampuff team) and compare that to Mich is everything THAT upsetting? I wasnt able to watch the Florida/Arkansas game cuse im overseas but it seemed pretty impressive. Basically i see how michigan appears screwed, but i dont see how you can argue against Florida being the best team available right now considering the situation.

[bengalboomer7]

See, though that's the thing, no situation should be considered. A rematch shouldn't be considered,a conference championship shouldn't be considered. The BCS is just supposed to pick the two best teams, and up until the very last second, everyone thought it was Michigan, they saw a problem with that and an inordinate amount of people changed their vote.

I have no problem with Florida or Michigan playing OSU, just the way it was picked

[BengalPimp]

what in the world makes anyone think Michigan would be more successful a second time around? They played a great great game while OSU made three huge turnovers. Michigan was given every chance to win and FAILED. There is no reason whatsoever to think that a second go would come out with TSUN on top. Screw Michigan, I freaking HATE them, but I still think they are getting robbed.

What in the world makes anyone think Michigan might be more successful a second time around?

2 WORDS-------Neutral Site-----Ohio State will not have the Home Field advantage-------------

So, what in the world makes you think Ohio State could play that well vs. Michigan if they werent playing at HOME? your argument was a bad one, because nobody knows what would have happened playing in a neutral site, like in a bowl game.

[derekshank]

Well... I very much doubt that Ohio State would have a -3 turnover differential a second time around. Also... everyone points to the 3 point margin, but it was 11 with less than 3 minutes to go. The game was not nearly as close as the score led people to believe.

Michigan may be the 2nd best team (We don't know that for sure)... but they had their shot at OSU. Florida hasn't had a shot, and enough of an argument can be made for them that they should get an opportunity to play OSU before Michigan gets to play them a second time.

You can complain about how the selection was made by the human voters. I won't argue much about that... but I get tired of hearing that Michigan got burned so bad. They had their shot. They fell short. Move on.

[BengalPimp]

The whole thing is pretty screwed up, but am i the only one who thought the OSU vs. Mich game was pretty lopsided? The score is what matters in the end, but take away a few botched snaps and how does the game look? Everyone concentrates on Michigan's last game, if you do the same thing for Florida and then factor in Florida's sched (plus or minus the creampuff team) and compare that to Mich is everything THAT upsetting? I wasnt able to watch the Florida/Arkansas game cuse im overseas but it seemed pretty impressive. Basically i see how michigan appears screwed, but i dont see how you can argue against Florida being the best team available right now considering the situation.

you dont see how? only 1 team(Penn State) all season came within a TD of Michigan (17-10), 5 of Floridas victories were by 1 TD or less (4 of those teams are UNRANKED)If Florida was the 2nd best team in college, they wouldnt have had so many close calls against teams they should be much better than ( see 1 point victory at #17 Tennessee and 1 point victory AT HOME against UNRANKED South Carolina)

Lets look at something else that we can compare-----Michigan and Florida did have 1 Common opponent this year Unranked Vanderbilt---the outcomes? Michigan won 27-7, Florida barely escaped 25-19(not even a TD)