bengalspride1219 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 That's just it. Time after time Palmer takes the blame on himself for things that aren't his fault. Maybe that's part of being a QB...thats exactly what this one writer keeps bitching about. since he has that attitude hes gonna be a bust and the next ryan leaf.anyways chad gets mad when he doesnt get a catch. whats the problem? he never blames palmer. i listen to the interviews, he neverrrr blames palmer and ravens week i was wondering why cause palmer was missing all his throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 The "Chad haters" never questioned his production. They (myself included) wanted him to quit crying like a baby when he doesn't get his way.Well, that's just the point. Paint his comments any way you want, but the bottom line is, Chad was absolutely right. The Bengals needed to find a way to get the ball into the hands of their biggest playmaker -- a point I made repeatedly while so many others were busy tarring Chad as a cancer. They did so, and what happened? The offense exploded.Gregg Doyel made the same point today over at sportsline.com. NEW ORLEANS -- Two weeks ago, Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chad Johnson bitched about not getting the ball enough, and you're not going to believe what happened next.He got the ball more.This is the NFL, where the surest way to get attention is to ask narcissistically, a tactic that already had worked this season for Cleveland's Kellen Winslow and Dallas' Terrell Owens. Winslow and Owens bitched about not being involved enough, and sure enough, they've been incredibly involved ever since. Funny how that works.Johnson's petulant plea for more passes two weeks ago has benefited Johnson, but it has benefited the Bengals offense, too. Funny how that works. The more a team's best player gets the ball, the better that team is. Fascinating.I can't help but be skeptical here. Palmer and Brat both seemed to me to be trying to get Chad the ball earlier in the season just as often as they are now. Timing was off between Carson and Chad, and the offensive line was playing like crap. Now that the latter has changed, the entire offense is playing better. The only time in the last two games in which I thought they might have looked Chad's way when they wouldn't have earlier in the year was the 4 yard touchdown pass in the 4t Qtr. against the Saints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 'll just never view him as the leader of this team. He's just that loud guy that everyone notices.And thats why i'll love him.What WR's are leaders on there teams?steve smith? he's just like chad when he doesn't get the ball.Marvin Harrison? He's Brian Simmons of the offense.Horn is a old school version of chad.TO?Moss?Closet WR I can think of as a leader on their team is holt but it just seems to come with the postion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 'll just never view him as the leader of this team. He's just that loud guy that everyone notices.And thats why i'll love him.What WR's are leaders on there teams?steve smith? he's just like chad when he doesn't get the ball.Marvin Harrison? He's Brian Simmons of the offense.Horn is a old school version of chad.TO?Moss?Closet WR I can think of as a leader on their team is holt but it just seems to come with the postion.Housh is a leader. He may be a bit high-maintenance as well... but nothing like Chad. In fact, I would say that if it wasn't for Housh, there would be no Chad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBin2k7 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 'll just never view him as the leader of this team. He's just that loud guy that everyone notices.And thats why i'll love him.What WR's are leaders on there teams?steve smith? he's just like chad when he doesn't get the ball.Marvin Harrison? He's Brian Simmons of the offense.Horn is a old school version of chad.TO?Moss?Closet WR I can think of as a leader on their team is holt but it just seems to come with the postion.Housh is a leader. He may be a bit high-maintenance as well... but nothing like Chad. In fact, I would say that if it wasn't for Housh, there would be no Chad.How is TJ any different than Chad. As I recall, TJ complained after the TB game about not trying to push the ball downfield. TJ is a great receiver, but Chad has been Chad before TJ became a great number 2 receiver.Matter of fact Willie and Rudi complained after the Atlanta game, how is that any different than what Chad does? Chad Johnson is the explosion in the Bengals offense, Chad is the swagger for the offense, the air of unstoppable that the offense needs to be successful. TJ/Rudi are the grit and the wheels that keeps the offense grounded at the same time, everyone serves there purpose.D, you and I see it differently, but it's great to debate it, and it's great to have TJ/CJ on our side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 Say whatever you want to about Chad, but this says everything I need to know about where Chad is at with his teammates and as a LEADER!Sweet Plays of the Week (Sweet Pair for the Trick or Treats): Game tied at 10 early in the fourth quarter at New Orleans, the Bengals faced third-and-2 on their 40. Chad Johnson was supposed to run an "out." Carson Palmer was flushed from the pocket and scrambling. Johnson saw it, cut up the sidelines and waved his hand – touchdown – and Drew Brees' fantastic passing yardage was on its way to being irrelevant. Later, Cincinnati leading 24-10 and the Saints at midfield, rookie seventh-round draft pick Ethan Kilmer, pressed into duty, cut in front of a Saints receiver, intercepted the pass and returned it for the icing touchdown. After the score, as the hyperventilating Kilmer stood on the sideline in delirium, Johnson ran to get him a water bottle and sprayed water directly into Kilmer's mouth. Say what you will about Ocho Cinco – as of that sideline act, I like Chad Johnson.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story...terbrook/061121Whoo Hooo, Ocho Cinco! All ya All can STUFF the rest of the vitriol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 How is TJ any different than Chad. As I recall, TJ complained after the TB game about not trying to push the ball downfield. TJ is a great receiver, but Chad has been Chad before TJ became a great number 2 receiver.Well... TJ's impact on Chad goes back to them being college teammates. TJ's always been a team player. Chad's always been a 'me' guy. You're not going to get me to say that anyone is perfect (well... maybe Palmer), but for my money, Housh is the more reliable player. When we need someone to step up and make a play that changes momentum and converts a big 3rd down, it's usually Housh that does the extra hard work... and then Chad makes the big play later on when he's not pouting any more.Chad is gifted more than any of our other WR's. He is gifted more than almost any other WR's in the entire NFL... but the fact that he's a good guy when the team wins is nothing new. I want to see him pick up his teammates when they're playing poorly. That's something I've yet to see from Chad. I'm happy he's wearing stripes... but I'm just not sure we can count on him when we're losing by 21 (and that's something that a team like SD must have a lot of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 What SD has a lot of is LaDainian Tomlinson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengal4life Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 How is TJ any different than Chad. As I recall, TJ complained after the TB game about not trying to push the ball downfield. TJ is a great receiver, but Chad has been Chad before TJ became a great number 2 receiver.Well... TJ's impact on Chad goes back to them being college teammates. TJ's always been a team player. Chad's always been a 'me' guy. You're not going to get me to say that anyone is perfect (well... maybe Palmer), but for my money, Housh is the more reliable player. When we need someone to step up and make a play that changes momentum and converts a big 3rd down, it's usually Housh that does the extra hard work... and then Chad makes the big play later on when he's not pouting any more.Chad is gifted more than any of our other WR's. He is gifted more than almost any other WR's in the entire NFL... but the fact that he's a good guy when the team wins is nothing new. I want to see him pick up his teammates when they're playing poorly. That's something I've yet to see from Chad. I'm happy he's wearing stripes... but I'm just not sure we can count on him when we're losing by 21 (and that's something that a team like SD must have a lot of).I'm not saying that chad isn't a me guy, but Chad is more of a team player than half of the NFL's #1 receiver. I remember at the beginning of the season when CP and CJ's timing was off and the rest of our receivers were getting the ball, he said "it's alright that I'm not getting the ball because with me being double and triple covered it's opening up the other receivers (Not in exact words)." That's less complaining and more of a roll model than any other #1, besides maybe Harrison, that I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted November 23, 2006 Report Share Posted November 23, 2006 I think the chargers game humbled chad,it showed even when he gets 260 yards and 2 tds the team still can lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboat Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 Anyone catch his interveiw yesterday? Well it was pretty consistant with what he has said all year he said it's all about winning not about him. He said the last 2 weeks he hasn't been doubled triple covered & when they go back to that they will take what the Def. gives & TJ/ Henry will get theirs. I think the only time I heard him complain about not getting the ball enough was after the game & he only had 3 catches, IMO he's was right.Look @ last week CJ was the first one to point out he had 2 drops & that shouldn't happen. I also recall hearing him saying , some may say complaining, how the Off needs to be more aggressive & dictate to Def. what they want to do instead of vise-versa & that was a big part of their success as an Off last year again I think he had a point. I think many thought that was a shot @ the coaching staff but in hind sight it may have also been a challenge to his teammates.His on field actions I don't see as whining he's just very competitive & wears his heart on his sleeve I don't hold it against him when he's wide open & they dont connect then rips his chin strap off & shows frustration I think he just wants to make the play. Lets be fair they haven't seemed to be in sync until the last couple games due in a large part because of the O-line not protecting Palmer. Is he a bit selfish ... yes but as pointed out that seems to come with position but he wants the ball because he wants to make big plays that's what he does is make big plays! Many coaches & Qbs have said they want players who want the ball . I don't recall anyone questioning CJ work ethic in fact I've seen/ heard the opposite many times, how many players sleep in the stadium studying tape. You know Cj is still a relatively young player& person, I think people mature through experiences & this has been a very frustrating season with alot of adversity thus far my hope is that CJ & the team for that matter will be better because of it. Chad is Chad you either love him or hate him. Chad is his biggest critic but also his biggest fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 I think the reason Chad is getting in the groove is because the play calling has been different the last two games. The Bengals have taken more shots and he and Carson has delivered. Carson also has had more time to get CJ the ball. It's a beautiful thing.I think you're half right. They've taken more shots, because those shots have been opened up by the tough nosed Rudi Johnson. We're running the ball more, and teams are playing it more, than playing the pass outright. At the beginning of the year, defenses we're just sitting back waiting for Carson to throw(or blitzing all the time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 I think the reason Chad is getting in the groove is because the play calling has been different the last two games. The Bengals have taken more shots and he and Carson has delivered. Carson also has had more time to get CJ the ball. It's a beautiful thing.I think you're half right. They've taken more shots, because those shots have been opened up by the tough nosed Rudi Johnson. We're running the ball more, and teams are playing it more, than playing the pass outright. At the beginning of the year, defenses we're just sitting back waiting for Carson to throw(or blitzing all the time)I agree and the playcalling during that stretch was horrible. The running game was there for the taking, but they just kept trying to force the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Congrats to Chad for setting the three game record for receiving yardagebeating the previous mark by Jerry Rice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 Chad is also on pace to break jerrys 3 years of leading the conf with 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 Staying commited to the run is keeping him open. He's on a great run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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