BengalPimp Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 THEY DECIDED NOT TO FINE McCREE for his hit on TJ.....Way to send a "message" to the remaining teams on the Bengals schedule....go ahead, take cheap shots at the Bengals and don't worry about a Fine. That is just Ridiculous....They will fine Chad Johnson for wearing an "ocho cinco" name plate, but will let McCree get off scott-free for his Illegal hit.......Well, I guess Mike Brown shouldnt have voted against the new collective bargaining agreement.....Note to Mike Brown: dont mess with the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 The Ocho-Cinco thing isn't exactly a double-standard - just a ridiculous one. Which one is more harmful to the league? A guy wearing a fake nameplate that he takes off prior to kick-off, or a helmet to helmet hit that knocks one of the league's best WR's unconcious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Even i can't say anything more that "YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!"that's how you defend your players huh. Patrick kerney got fined just for "acting like " he was gonna hit Carson Palmer at the knees. How do you let a safety launch himself at a defenseless player and not get punished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Please.Watch the tape again. He hits with the shoulder and does not make any contact with the helmet. Same deal as Geathers hit on Green in the opener.Yes, it was early and a penalty which was assessed on the play, maybe dirty since it was early on a defenseless receiver. It did not deserve a fine, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Please.Watch the tape again. He hits with the shoulder and does not make any contact with the helmet. Same deal as Geathers hit on Green in the opener.Yes, it was early and a penalty which was assessed on the play, maybe dirty since it was early on a defenseless receiver. It did not deserve a fine, in my opinion.You can't hit a defenseless guy like that, and to not be playing the ball either makes it look a tad intentional I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted November 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 Please.Watch the tape again. He hits with the shoulder and does not make any contact with the helmet. Same deal as Geathers hit on Green in the opener.Yes, it was early and a penalty which was assessed on the play, maybe dirty since it was early on a defenseless receiver. It did not deserve a fine, in my opinion.Then the NFL is just opening the door for more "cheap shots" like that one. In Geathers case, Trent Green waited too long to start his slide. TJ did nothing. Look at the play again, you can see McCree 5 or 6 yards away, never looking to see if the QB was throwing to TJ. His helmet(and eyes) were only on TJ. His apology was FAKE and the only reason he did it was to try to avoid a fine..guess it worked. His excuse was unacceptable...he said he was in a "blind spot" and couldnt see the ball, that doesnt give you the right to go around hitting defensless players just because "he wasnt sure"....so you (and the NFL) are telling us that the "pass-interference" penalty was good enough? well then next time a Bengal DB touches a players hand, jersey, etc. after 5 yards it will be a "pass-interference" penalty...so why not just LEVEL the guy? you wont get fined......THATS PLAIN WRONG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted November 19, 2006 Report Share Posted November 19, 2006 This is some true bullshiat! If anyone knows how, they need to start one of those petitions online against the NFL. I know there is some kind of website where it is all petitions. The basis of the petition could be based on the fact the NFL is holding the fact Mike Brown voted against the CBA by fining Bengals players, not punishing refs for bad penalty calling against the Bengals, and for not fining McCree for an obvious cheap shot on one of the Bengals best players. This is an obvious case of creating a hostile workplace by providing biasness to other teams in penalty calling and fining that leaves players in a potential dangerous positions such as the one with TJ.Someone write it up!Here is the website: http://www.petitiononline.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riagogogoindanati Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 F*K it.....I think they should just do away with pads and helmets anyway.Just kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Man that is BS! We don't get anything that goes our way! Just another point that adds to my theory that the majority of the Nation hates Cincinnati... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Please.Watch the tape again. He hits with the shoulder and does not make any contact with the helmet. Same deal as Geathers hit on Green in the opener.Okay... watch it again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qu1_4U1i3w Clear helmet to helmet. Housh was completely defenseless, never could have seen McCree coming. There is no comparison to the Green hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Good call by the NFL. It was borderline helmet to helmet, and it was pass interference... but I see nothing that tells me McCree was blatantly trying to nail Housh with no regard for the football. There was only a split second between the hit and the ball ariving. The slo-mo replays really skew the evidence.The damage wasn't even done by McCree. There wouldn't have been a concussion without Housh's head hitting the other Charger's knee so akwardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spor_tees Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Good call by the NFL. It was borderline helmet to helmet, and it was pass interference... but I see nothing that tells me McCree was blatantly trying to nail Housh with no regard for the football. There was only a split second between the hit and the ball ariving. The slo-mo replays really skew the evidence.The damage wasn't even done by McCree. There wouldn't have been a concussion without Housh's head hitting the other Charger's knee so akwardly.After the game McCree told reporters he didn't have a clue where the ball was and just wanted to try and hit Housh to stop him from making the catch. I think that would come across as an obvious cheap shot at a defenseless WR. If he had made an attempt at the ball or was even looking at the ball as he his Housh, or even got there closer to the time the ball got there, it would be a different story. Fact is Housh was looking for the ball and McCree was head hunting. He deserved a fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted November 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 The damage wasn't even done by McCree. There wouldn't have been a concussion without Housh's head hitting the other Charger's knee so akwardly.Do you NOT understand that had McCree not hit TJ early, TJ wouldn't have been sent back towards Godfrey?(who was trying to stop) Anyways, Karma is a B.tch....watching the SD vs. Denver game, I saw McCree go down with a leg injury, and thought....ah Karma....he eventually went back in the game, but I think he still has his "Due" coming to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 The damage wasn't even done by McCree. There wouldn't have been a concussion without Housh's head hitting the other Charger's knee so akwardly.Do you NOT understand that had McCree not hit TJ early, TJ wouldn't have been sent back towards Godfrey?(who was trying to stop) Thanks for the heads up, Captain Obvious. Are you saying McCree was trying to hit Housh into Godfrey's knee? Did he have the presence of mind to think in that split second before the ball arrived, "I'm going to nail T.J. Houshmandzadeh so hard that he hits my buddy Godfrey coming up from behind."Give me a break, homer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 The damage wasn't even done by McCree. There wouldn't have been a concussion without Housh's head hitting the other Charger's knee so akwardly.Do you NOT understand that had McCree not hit TJ early, TJ wouldn't have been sent back towards Godfrey?(who was trying to stop) Thanks for the heads up, Captain Obvious. Are you saying McCree was trying to hit Housh into Godfrey's knee? Did he have the presence of mind to think in that split second before the ball arrived, "I'm going to nail T.J. Houshmandzadeh so hard that he hits my buddy Godfrey coming up from behind."Give me a break, homer.If that's what he was trying to say, he would be an idiot. But you've built a straw man, because I don't think anyone would try to make that argument. What he's trying to say is that McCree knew he couldn't make a play on the ball... so he made a play on Housh. That play was way early (and even if it wasn't intentional... it was what caused T.J. to fall into Godfrey's knee). The point is, the NFL is trying to make the league safer from hits on defenseless WR's. Even if McCree wasn't intentionally headhunting, he went high on a defenseless WR way too early. Deciding not to fine him communicates to safeties that they are permitted to hit WR's high and early... as long as they know they can't make a play on the ball. The hit may not have been malicious in intent... but it was dirty and deserved a fine. But instead, the NFL has set a precedent that hitting WR's in the head, from behind, when they are trying to catch a pass isn't a worthy of a fine. Someone's going to get killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 The hit may not have been malicious in intent... but it was dirty and deserved a fine. But instead, the NFL has set a precedent that hitting WR's in the head, from behind, when they are trying to catch a pass isn't a worthy of a fine. Someone's going to get killed.That's all I'm looking for. I still question whether it was really dirty or not, but that's subjective. The only one who knows for sure is McCree himself. It wasn't an intentional attack on T.J., and had McCree timed his hit better, he wouldn't have even gotten the penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 The hit may not have been malicious in intent... but it was dirty and deserved a fine. But instead, the NFL has set a precedent that hitting WR's in the head, from behind, when they are trying to catch a pass isn't a worthy of a fine. Someone's going to get killed.That's all I'm looking for. I still question whether it was really dirty or not, but that's subjective. The only one who knows for sure is McCree himself. It wasn't an intentional attack on T.J., and had McCree timed his hit better, he wouldn't have even gotten the penalty.That's always going to be true. The NFL's front office doesn't have a motive checker. They only have the rules they've set up and the power to enforce them. McCree, whether intentionally or not (as you noted... only he knows for sure) broke those rules by going helmet to helmet very early on a defenseless WR. It deserved a fine, regardless of his intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 That's always going to be true. The NFL's front office doesn't have a motive checker. They only have the rules they've set up and the power to enforce them.That's what you think. The real truth behind todays NFL officiating and fine structure can be found here...http://www.bangcartoon.com/cartoons/index....|halloween2.swf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPimp Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 The hit may not have been malicious in intent... but it was dirty and deserved a fine. But instead, the NFL has set a precedent that hitting WR's in the head, from behind, when they are trying to catch a pass isn't a worthy of a fine. Someone's going to get killed.That's all I'm looking for. I still question whether it was really dirty or not, but that's subjective. The only one who knows for sure is McCree himself. It wasn't an intentional attack on T.J., and had McCree timed his hit better, he wouldn't have even gotten the penalty.Had he timed his hit better? YOU JUST DONT GET IT.......he had no just cause to hit him...PERIOD. By his own admission, he said he could not see the ball, he said it was in a "blind spot", he didnt know where it was....so, the ball could have been in the air, could've been in TJ's hands, could've been thrown short, could've been too high, could've been too much to the right, OR it could've not gotten there yet. YOU CANT GO AROUND HITTING DEFENSLESS PEOPLE WITHOUT THE BALL, there is no justification for that, the only maybe, he shouldnt have been Fined...and this is a HUGE maybe, is if he showed any attempt to get the ball or wrap up and tackle TJ, but he did neither.. Look at it again and you will see his intentions...He did not try to intercept it(no hands in the air), he did not try to knock the ball away(once again, no hands in the air), AND HE DIDNT EVEN TRY TO TACKLE TJ (arms not extended, didnt try to wrap him up), HE JUST LAUNCHED HIMSELF AT TJ WITH ONLY THE INTENT TO KNOCK HIM ON HIS A$$..... HE JUST WANTED AN "OOOOH" HIT FOR THE HIGHLIGHT REEL...as evidenced by no attempt to look for the ball, to get the ball, or wrap up and tackle the guy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 HE JUST LAUNCHED HIMSELF AT TJ WITH ONLY THE INTENT TO KNOCK HIM ON HIS A$$..... HE JUST WANTED AN "OOOOH" HIT FOR THE HIGHLIGHT REEL...Capital letters don't improve your post.Hits like the one you describe above happen in every single NFL football game you'll ever see. Most of them warrant no penalty, much less a fine. The penalty came because the hit was early, an obvious pass interference. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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