Can someone please slap Paul Alexander?

[walzav29]

Or at least every offensive lineman. They are killing our Golden Boy. I wish Marvin Lewis would take a ball bat to Alexander like Capone did in the Untouchables. "The Team"

[BlainThePain]

Some of this is on Carson. He holds onto the ball too long on a lot of these plays and he is throwing high too much this year as well. He's not been as mentally ready as I hoped he would by this point in the season.

[bengalboomer7]

Is there any coaches we haven't missed. I don't want to disrespect any of the coaches who think they're doing their job. Seriously, we've got a couple marvin threads, a now merged Brat/Chuck thread, and now Mr. Paul Alexander. Let's not leave anybody out here.

Now I haven't always liked the schemes and playcalling but I'll let you guys in on a little secret. Ready

Coaches don't tackle, they don't passblcok, throw the football, or run for a 5.5 yard average. They don't face double coverage, stunt on a blitz, or drop into zone coverage. Essentially, they don't play

I thought maybe there's been some confusion around here

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Alexander is the only leftover coach from the "old, old regime" from the 90's. A Brown familiy favorite whom they probably forced Marvin into keeping.

He'll be facing his now pro-bowl draft pick whom he couldn't develop this week in Mike Goff - whom the Bengals' cut, mainly because he was a scapegoat here and the Brown family do not believe in paying guards or centers, and would rather have 10 WR's and Rb's.

Instead the Bengals' are willing to pony up for a worthless guard in Bobbie Williams, who is frankly, terrible.

I can't think of one mid-round draft pick Alexander has developed into a long term solution here. Other teams do it all the time. So he drafts two players from his former employer - CSU - in the same draft. Uh huh that's competence for you.

Unless a lineman is a 1st round pick, or is someone he inherited like Willie and Braham, they suck here. They are either good/great out of the gate, or they do nothing.

Frankly, I'm sick of it - you only get one shot at having a franchise/HOF caliber QB like Palmer once in a lifetime - you don't surround him with crap because you're too cheap and old school to do so. He's had two season ending knee injuries already, and is getting pounded this year again. When do people wake up and realize that is not acceptable? How often to Brady and Manning get pummeled? They hardly get touched.

I blame Mike Brown ultimately, and his out-dated philosophy of not paying top dollar for defensive play makers or interior o-lineman.

Carson cannot do everything - and without him this team is just like the old days - .500 at best, winning 4 games a year.

Now we're stuck with a crappy RG, and a LT long term who has no cartilage left in his oft-injured knees.

It's a high level philosophical problem that keeps the Bengals' from getting over the hump here.

The talent is there at skill positions, the same old way of doing things is also - Marvin is just window dressing who owes his success last year to Carson Palmer and a favorable schedule, and a fortunate defense (who now can't seem to get a turnover if their life depended on it).

Paul Alexander is a problem IMO. But ok I've said my peace.

[HoosierCat]

Is there any coaches we haven't missed. I don't want to disrespect any of the coaches who think they're doing their job. Seriously, we've got a couple marvin threads, a now merged Brat/Chuck thread, and now Mr. Paul Alexander. Let's not leave anybody out here.

Yeah, I know. If Ive got the last week or two's set of calls right, we should fire:

Marvin Lewis

Paul Alexander

Bob Bratkowski

Chuck Breshnahan

Darrin Simmons

Hmmm...well, I suppose Paul Guenther could take over on STs, tho that leaves Hunley all alone with the LBs and you'd think he could use all the help he could get there right now.

Zampese could take over at OC; he doesnt seem to be doing much good right now at QB coach anyhow.

With Hunley tied up that leaves Kevin Coyle to call the defensive side of the ball. So I guess Louie Cioffi can drop the "assistant."

Not sure what to do about the o-line. Maybe Jim Anderson could lend a hand? Or since Rich Braham isn't doing much these days maybe he could be temporary injured player/coach? Maybe we could beg Anthony Munoz to come in and sub for a couple months?

As for head coach, I dunno. Jay Hayes maybe? I mean, he's the TE coach, so on this team he can't be very busy, eh? Or maybe Mikey should take a page from the Old Man's book and just coach the team himself?

[AMC]

Is this the same Alexander that was a genius last year when the O-Line was intact and playing well? Just checking....

[Jet23]

Alexander is the only leftover coach from the "old, old regime" from the 90's. A Brown familiy favorite whom they probably forced Marvin into keeping.

He'll be facing his now pro-bowl draft pick whom he couldn't develop this week in Mike Goff - whom the Bengals' cut, mainly because he was a scapegoat here and the Brown family do not believe in paying guards or centers, and would rather have 10 WR's and Rb's.

Instead the Bengals' are willing to pony up for a worthless guard in Bobbie Williams, who is frankly, terrible.

I can't think of one mid-round draft pick Alexander has developed into a long term solution here. Other teams do it all the time. So he drafts two players from his former employer - CSU - in the same draft. Uh huh that's competence for you.

Unless a lineman is a 1st round pick, or is someone he inherited like Willie and Braham, they suck here. They are either good/great out of the gate, or they do nothing.

Frankly, I'm sick of it - you only get one shot at having a franchise/HOF caliber QB like Palmer once in a lifetime - you don't surround him with crap because you're too cheap and old school to do so. He's had two season ending knee injuries already, and is getting pounded this year again. When do people wake up and realize that is not acceptable? How often to Brady and Manning get pummeled? They hardly get touched.

I blame Mike Brown ultimately, and his out-dated philosophy of not paying top dollar for defensive play makers or interior o-lineman.

Carson cannot do everything - and without him this team is just like the old days - .500 at best, winning 4 games a year.

Now we're stuck with a crappy RG, and a LT long term who has no cartilage left in his oft-injured knees.

It's a high level philosophical problem that keeps the Bengals' from getting over the hump here.

The talent is there at skill positions, the same old way of doing things is also - Marvin is just window dressing who owes his success last year to Carson Palmer and a favorable schedule, and a fortunate defense (who now can't seem to get a turnover if their life depended on it).

Paul Alexander is a problem IMO. But ok I've said my peace.

In the spirit of election day:

My name is Jet23 and I endorse this post...

[MacD BengalFan]

When the defense send up to 8 guys at an offensive line that has 5 guys on it, a defender is bound to get through to Carson. This is what teams are doing against the Bengals, sending 7 to 8 guys each play which overwhelms the offensive line. And when the running backs don't recognize this, Carson is sure to get hit. When the Ravens started to send only 4, the Bengals moved the ball at will. When the Ravens sent 7 or 8, the Bengals struggled and Carson got either hit or sacked.

[Jet23]

When the defense send up to 8 guys at an offensive line that has 5 guys on it, a defender is bound to get through to Carson. This is what teams are doing against the Bengals, sending 7 to 8 guys each play which overwhelms the offensive line. And when the running backs don't recognize this, Carson is sure to get hit. When the Ravens started to send only 4, the Bengals moved the ball at will. When the Ravens sent 7 or 8, the Bengals struggled and Carson got either hit or sacked.

Not only are the Bengals terrible at blitz pickup, they are also very bad at blitzing themselves. They can blitz 3 guys and still not even sniff the qb.

[MacD BengalFan]

When the defense send up to 8 guys at an offensive line that has 5 guys on it, a defender is bound to get through to Carson. This is what teams are doing against the Bengals, sending 7 to 8 guys each play which overwhelms the offensive line. And when the running backs don't recognize this, Carson is sure to get hit. When the Ravens started to send only 4, the Bengals moved the ball at will. When the Ravens sent 7 or 8, the Bengals struggled and Carson got either hit or sacked.

Not only are the Bengals terrible at blitz pickup, they are also very bad at blitzing themselves. They can blitz 3 guys and still not even sniff the qb.

To a point. I noticed that when the Bengals do rush 7 or 8, they just push up field never releasing from thier blocks or doing any stunts that may allow them to get to the QB. But there are time when it does work as Justin Smith and Robert Geathers have 6 sacks each. But I think there could be more if there was more creativity with the defensive front.

[Jet23]

When the defense send up to 8 guys at an offensive line that has 5 guys on it, a defender is bound to get through to Carson. This is what teams are doing against the Bengals, sending 7 to 8 guys each play which overwhelms the offensive line. And when the running backs don't recognize this, Carson is sure to get hit. When the Ravens started to send only 4, the Bengals moved the ball at will. When the Ravens sent 7 or 8, the Bengals struggled and Carson got either hit or sacked.

Not only are the Bengals terrible at blitz pickup, they are also very bad at blitzing themselves. They can blitz 3 guys and still not even sniff the qb.

To a point. I noticed that when the Bengals do rush 7 or 8, they just push up field never releasing from thier blocks or doing any stunts that may allow them to get to the QB. But there are time when it does work as Justin Smith and Robert Geathers have 6 sacks each. But I think there could be more if there was more creativity with the defensive front.

They also need to blitz the right people. T. James had McNair done, but broke down like he was afraid McNair would take off running. Hello, Vick was last week. Meanwhile McNair used the extra time to find Heap wide open yet again. Also, was that Jeanty covering Heap at one point????? If blitzing means that Jeanty has to cover Heap, and blitzing seldom works anyway, maybe they shouldn't be blitzing. Or at least figure out how other teams manage to blitz and sack the qb.

[Spor_tees]

Out of all the NFL teams I watch, The Bengals must have the worst blitzing scheme out of all of them. Teams that get sacks usually have one of the sacks come from a safety or corner. When the Bengals blitz a safety or corner, they either get picked up and can't get by the blocker, or whiff on the tackle.

Is this because the guys aren't good defenders? Is it because the Bengals don't disguise their blitzes very well? Is it because when they blitz someone they drop off in pass coverage is a guy that can't even cover a reciever for longer than 2 seconds allowing the QB to get the ball off right away on a check down?

I think ultimately it comes down to the coaches. They don't put the right guys, in the right spots, at the right times to make plays. Blitzing Vick up the middle with Ahmed Brooks? Blitzing Tory James and covering the TE with Justin Smith? These are stupid schemes that even everyday football fans on a message board can pick up and diesect! No wonder they are getting killed on third downs!

To the point at hand about Paul Alexander, The guy helped to put together one of the best offensive lines in the league last year and was ranked in the top 5 by most pundits to start this year. Sure they have had some injuries, but this team was supposed to be "deep" and it just isn't showing it. If anything it proves that the pre-season is worthless because what these guys did as back-ups in the pre-season isn't coming out on the field now. I think that teams have seen the Bengals weakness, a lack of a good TE, and have found the way to exploit it. If a team blitzes 7-8 guys, and puts the corners up at the line on Chad and TJ, the hot route should be to a TE about 5 yards down field. Problem is, Carson doesn't have a TE (ala Todd Heap, Tony Gonzalez, ect.) to dump it off to. So he sits in the pocket waiting for Chad or TJ to break off from the bump and run, then ends up over throwing them, or getting knocked on his rump.

The only option that leaves the Bengals is to "max" protect, sending out only 2 recivers on routes against 3 defenders. That isn't great odds and isn't a long term solution!

Tony Gonzalez is going to opt out of his contract after this year is all I am going to say...

[walshfan]

I dont like the Hayes Bros at all nor Alexander and Ill throw is Bres too.

Get rid of those and replace them with coaches that know how to get the MOST out of the players abilities which they dont seem capable of doing...