Dadraftnick Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 What have we learned?The Bengals have drafted one of the dumbest money grubing idiots in the league! When you are paid millions and you cant spring a few bucks for a taxi or limo, when you know that you are going to get drunk,how cheap can you be? How stupid can you be?When a Bengals player (on the roster at the time) lost his career,and almost his life,from a car acident and other players on the team have been arrested for DUI a two year old would be smart enough to call cab or limo.When you are already in hotwater and on suspension but ,he saved the money he would have spent on a taxi.When Odel already knows the beating that he and the team have taken for characterWhen Odel knows that the team needs him badly after loosing Pollack.After Odel gave the big interview that he was going to straighten up.Just heard Henry and McNeal were in the car with him.Henry at the center of another problem ? Go figure.It looks like Odel is on a self distruction spree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 This may sound a tad cold, but we should only think of as to what it costs us on the field and just wish Odell the best. Everyone has a run in with the law, whether it be DUI, or a seat belt ticket. It's not my place to judge a man I don't personally know.I'm worried about this being another violation of the substance abuse policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 What have we learned?The Bengals have drafted one of the dumbest money grubing idiots in the league! When you are paid millions and you cant spring a few bucks for a taxi or limo, when you know that you are going to get drunk,how cheap can you be? How stupid can you be?When a Bengals player (on the roster at the time) lost his career,and almost his life,from a car acident and other players on the team have been arrested for DUI a two year old would be smart enough to call cab or limo.When you are already in hotwater and on suspension but ,he saved the money he would have spent on a taxi.When Odel already knows the beating that he and the team have taken for characterWhen Odel knows that the team needs him badly after loosing Pollack.After Odel gave the big interview that he was going to straighten up.Just heard Henry and McNeal were in the car with him.Henry at the center of another problem ? Go figure.It looks like Odel is on a self distruction spree.Who cares? What have I learned? That there are a bunch of idiots on these boards. My only question now is why didn't the rookie jump up in the drivers seat and take one for the team? Check points are a violation of our rights, its unconstitutional!This may sound a tad cold, but we should only think of as to what it costs us on the field and just wish Odell the best. Everyone has a run in with the law, whether it be DUI, or a seat belt ticket. It's not my place to judge a man I don't personally know.I'm worried about this being another violation of the substance abuse policy. How can this be a violation? He was drunk, not high! Has any player in the NFL been suspended for a DUI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Wow, that's some fine analysis on the constitutionality of DUI checkpoints. I am a better lawyer for having read that.No way does Thurman set foot on the field for Cincy this year. If hie s convicted of the DUI, he is looking down the barrel of a one year vacation at some point. Period. They simply cannot count on him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadraftnick Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...0010/1066/SPT02Blew a .17, more than twice the limit.:shakes head:That's right. The absolute WORST thing he did was get arrested for DUI. We are talking about something that will probably culminate into a misdermeanor conviction. Perspective: Did he kill someone. No. Did he hurt/injure someone? No. Did he damage or destroy any property whatsoever? Again the answer is No! (And don't give me that "Well he easily could have in his condition!" line of crap. Even stone cold sober there's a chance of having an accidentl) Even though he didn't play in it, he was out celebrating the Bengals big win with some teammates. Just like multitudes of other Cincinnatians were last night. He just partied a little too hearty. BFD. Like all of you guys loudly whining about it here in this thread have NEVER done it yourself? Bulls**t! You're hypocrites.He's done here. I don't like it, but there it is.Yeah, I see how you took into consideration of how that whole Chris Henry and his multiple arrests thing played out here before you let loose with THAT rediculous statement. Odell ain't going anywhere except right back to his justly earned starting position at linebacker! Well, possibly a few defensive driving and substance abuse classes too! I'm with you man, I can't wait to see him back on the field against the Bucs on October 15. Way to beat them Steelers!I think that this is another violation of the league substance abuse policy(while already on suspension)and it would take Thurman out for the year.The new comish has said he wants to make a statement and hold players to higher standards so, he may make an example out of Thurman. It also does not look good for Henry being at the scene when he is trying to get the comish to be easy on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Wow, that's some fine analysis on the constitutionality of DUI checkpoints. I am a better lawyer for having read that.No way does Thurman set foot on the field for Cincy this year. If hie s convicted of the DUI, he is looking down the barrel of a one year vacation at some point. Period. They simply cannot count on him...Dui check points violate a lot of our rights. I've got a right to privacy. There's also no probable cause. With no probable cause they do not have any right to search. Also I shouldn't have to self-incriminate myself by not blowing into the tester. If I refuse to blow then I'm automatically guilty. This is completely unconstitutional if I ever saw it before. They don't have a right to come into my house with no probable cause, so it should be the same for a car.We'll see Oct. 15 if he plays or not, I'll be the first to expose your stupidity when he does play.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Wow, that's some fine analysis on the constitutionality of DUI checkpoints. I am a better lawyer for having read that.No way does Thurman set foot on the field for Cincy this year. If hie s convicted of the DUI, he is looking down the barrel of a one year vacation at some point. Period. They simply cannot count on him...Dui check points violate a lot of our rights. I've got a right to privacy. There's also no probable cause. With no probable cause they do not have any right to search. Also I shouldn't have to self-incriminate myself by not blowing into the tester. If I refuse to blow then I'm automatically guilty. This is completely unconstitutional if I ever saw it before. They don't have a right to come into my house with no probable cause, so it should be the same for a car.We'll see Oct. 15 if he plays or not, I'll be the first to expose your stupidity when he does play....Dawg, why are you getting angry at other posters for some s**t that O'Dell did himself?I like O'Dawg as much as the next man, but for you to sit there and catch feelings cuz other posters are unsure of his status or return to the football team is kinda stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Wow, the only one throwing around words like "stupid" here is you, agreen. Read earlier in the thread, chief, and you will see I own a Thurman jersey. I am a fan. But it is purely a naive person who presumes that Thurman makes the field at this point. Seriously...can they really count on him? Can they? Because I don't see any evidence that they can.That is all a seperate issue from his play on the field, which was undeniably fine last year. But if he can't take care of himself to earn his money and get on the field? Well, then I simply am left to feel sorry for him and hope that he turns his life around before he is dead in a ditch somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TippCityRick Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Mr. Green, the chances of Mr. Thurman seeing the field on Oct 15 are slim to none. He hasn't practiced with the team since . . . well, a long long time ago. He will have only been eligible to practice for two weeks at that point. When ML had the chance to let Mr. Thurman practice in the preseason, Mr. Thurman worked on the side because Mr. Brooks needed the reps. Mr. Brooks still needs the reps, and Mr. Thurman is further in ML's doghouse. It's really as simple as that.The difference here and the Mr. Henry situation is that Mr. Henry has been available to practice and has been NEEDED. Right now I don't see that Mr. Thurman is needed. In fact, by what little we've heard from ML on the subject I'm not even sure he's WANTED at this point.jmho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Mr. Green, the chances of Mr. Thurman seeing the field on Oct 15 are slim to none. He hasn't practiced with the team since . . . well, a long long time ago. He will have only been eligible to practice for two weeks at that point. When ML had the chance to let Mr. Thurman practice in the preseason, Mr. Thurman worked on the side because Mr. Brooks needed the reps. Mr. Brooks still needs the reps, and Mr. Thurman is further in ML's doghouse. It's really as simple as that.The difference here and the Mr. Henry situation is that Mr. Henry has been available to practice and has been NEEDED. Right now I don't see that Mr. Thurman is needed. In fact, by what little we've heard from ML on the subject I'm not even sure he's WANTED at this point.jmhoHoly crap, I've heard it all now. Thurman is not needed? THURMAN IS NOT NEEDED? LMAO. Did you see yesterdays game or not? Willie ran all over us, b/c of what? The cutback. A big job for the MLB is to stop that cutback. And odell excelled last year at making those first touch tackles, that landon kept missing yesterday.membengal: Can we count on him? really?...... Are you talking about on or off the field. I think he has some issues, yeah. But can we count on him to make plays on the field, absolutely! 100% yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChadJohnson-85 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Odell is the biggest dumb @$$! He only had one more game until he could play but instead he go's out dose DUI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I am as big a fan as anyone of Odell Thurman the DROY candidate at MLB.Since then (possibly earlier, but at least since then) Odell has had a substance abuse problem severe enough that even when he was cleared to practice, Marvin did not allow him to....now, several weeks later, he has shown clearly that his statement that he was going to clean up his act ws just a sham, a lie. Put yourself in marvin's shoes - can you in the salary cap era continue to keep a player on your team who eats salary cap but cannot be relied upon to get on the field due to an inablity to stop drinking and/or abusing substances? For my part, the answer is no - once I deal with the anger and frustration of the loss, I move on and start over with another new player. I also don't waste practive snaps getting the fellow ready to play - I save them for players I can count on. This is what Marvin did - he brought in Ahmad Brooks, and limited Odell's practice time.Marvin has moved on. The main thing Marvin will have to deal with is the others who were in the car with Odell. Going out and drinking with Odell Thurman is a bad, bad idea; and he will make sure they know that in no uncertain terms.To answer an earlier statement: yes, he is needed. His presence would have helped a lot this year. Would have, could have. No doubt. But you have to get on the field to help. He won't get back on the field this year. Next year, maybe - but almost assuredly (barring injury) it'll be with another team...plenty of teams out there who will be willing to give him a second chance (and a protective incentive-laden contract) because of his ability on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadraftnick Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 What have we learned?The Bengals have drafted one of the dumbest money grubing idiots in the league! When you are paid millions and you cant spring a few bucks for a taxi or limo, when you know that you are going to get drunk,how cheap can you be? How stupid can you be?When a Bengals player (on the roster at the time) lost his career,and almost his life,from a car acident and other players on the team have been arrested for DUI a two year old would be smart enough to call cab or limo.When you are already in hotwater and on suspension but ,he saved the money he would have spent on a taxi.When Odel already knows the beating that he and the team have taken for characterWhen Odel knows that the team needs him badly after loosing Pollack.After Odel gave the big interview that he was going to straighten up.Just heard Henry and McNeal were in the car with him.Henry at the center of another problem ? Go figure.It looks like Odel is on a self distruction spree.Who cares? What have I learned? That there are a bunch of idiots on these boards. My only question now is why didn't the rookie jump up in the drivers seat and take one for the team? Check points are a violation of our rights, its unconstitutional!This may sound a tad cold, but we should only think of as to what it costs us on the field and just wish Odell the best. Everyone has a run in with the law, whether it be DUI, or a seat belt ticket. It's not my place to judge a man I don't personally know.I'm worried about this being another violation of the substance abuse policy. How can this be a violation? He was drunk, not high! Has any player in the NFL been suspended for a DUI?Who cares?If my neighbor gets a DUI I dont care.If you get a DUI, I dont care. As long as you dont cause an acident its not my bussinesss.When a cheapscate millionare wont spring a few bucks for a taxi and gets suspended ,when it may cause the Bengals to loose a game, then I care.I know the Bengals have a better defense with Odel on the field,yesterday I kept thinging how much better they would have been with him.As far as I know, I dont even think that he is allowed to drink while under suspension and under the substance abuse policy.I feel sorry for Odel,but he knew better and he was drinking somewhere where they are running checkpoints and blew twice the legal limit.How much would a taxi split three ways cost?I bet you if he would have called Marvin and woke him up Marvin would have picked them up.They knew before they went out they were going to be drinking they could have got a taxi or got a non drinking teamate or staffer to drive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 .017 is getting up there....Odumb is on the wrong track and it'll most likely get worse before it gets better. Personally, I couldn't give a sh#t less about a dumba$$ like this any more than say Lewis Billups. Maybe that's what the league ought to do...rent a limo and drive Dopey and Odumb to Lewis Billups' grave (if there even is one).Sheer idiocy. But the field is the field. Hopefully Odumb is on the roster toward the end of the year and into the post season because even if the Bengals don't need him to start, the depth is an advantage. Retards like Dopey and Odumb can make it harder to root for a team that has to rely on such morons for success on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 To start, I think the other players in the car are equally responsible... I wonder what the total yearly salary combined was for those guys and then someone needs to explain why they couldn't afford a f*cking cab !!!As for Odell, like Henry, he's a f*cking idiot... The difference is one more strike and Odell is done for the year. I don't think it's a matter of him being a beast or not being needed (as some have claimed), but that the coaching staff and organization cannot count on him to be a responsible adult. If you can't count on a player to do simple things, he puts his team in jeopardy.Will Odell be back on the field this year ?? Maybe... Maybe not...Most of us have done something stupid and once again, can chalk up a percentage to immaturity, but this is just disappointing. Especially after hearing Odell give his whole, "I've let people down" and "I'm not going to get into anymore trouble" speech. He's lost a ton of integrity and that is an issue in and of itself on a TEAM !!!I wish him well and will trust what the organization chooses to do with him, but won't lose any sleep over his stupidity either.We are 3-0 and 2-0 in the Division without Odell... Frankly I'm more concerned with when Braham and DJ are going to be healthy !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duus Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Ditto. I would love to have Odell on the field ... if only for depth. But the big guys I want right now and for the rest of the year are Braham and DJackson. Add to that that I think it is very important for Henry to stay clean ... his difference is big as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Ditto. I would love to have Odell on the field ... if only for depth. But the big guys I want right now and for the rest of the year are Braham and DJackson. Add to that that I think it is very important for Henry to stay clean ... his difference is big as well. Agreed. I hate that O'dell's not getting his act together. He's got a ton of talent.Still, he's not the one we're missing right now. It's Dexter that I want to see back out there, and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Man, why can't these guys get taxis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Could very well end in a year long suspension. Even if it doesn't, this is further proof that Odell hasn't really learned from his previous mistakes as his earlier lip-service encouraged some to believe.Even if he isn't suspended for the year, I think he has proven to Marvin that he can't be trusted to be there when we need him. Overall, it's not all that big of a deal... but given his previous mistakes, there was no room for error. You can't take those kinds of risks when a year-long suspension is at stake.At this point we just have to hope for health for the rest of our LB's, because our depth looks a lot more questionable than it did before the Cleveland game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 In other news...Thurman elected by unanimous vote "Offical Team Idiot." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 What a huge disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smith288 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Some of you guys are crazy! Odell's not going to get kicked off the team, he isn't a waste of life or whatever the hell you guys are talking about. He got pulled over for DUI. Yeah he has a suspension pending for failing to meet the NFL substance abuse policy but this is alcohol. I'm glad to know that the Bengals where out celebrating the victory against the Steelers! Who Dey. O-dog will be back after his 4 game suspension, without question. Guys, you really need to stop jumping to conclusions, didn't anyone learn anything from Henry's mistakes. There's no way in hell that Henry was going to be cut (no matter how many fans wanted him gone) and no way Odell will be kicked off the team... Quit hatin', let the NFL worry about it. Nothing will come of this at least until next year, I'd say around March or April.Can't wait to see you back on the field O-dog Dude...relax. Odell isnt learning from his own mistakes yet you tell us to learn from ours regarding jumping to conclusions? Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckj414 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Some of you guys are crazy! Odell's not going to get kicked off the team, he isn't a waste of life or whatever the hell you guys are talking about. He got pulled over for DUI. Yeah he has a suspension pending for failing to meet the NFL substance abuse policy but this is alcohol. I'm glad to know that the Bengals where out celebrating the victory against the Steelers! Who Dey.Yeah, its not like he was smoking weed. He was just putting his, and more importantly, the lives of others at serious risk. Thats nothing major, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesperateDerelict Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Man, why can't these guys get taxis.There are NO taxi's available at those hours in the Cincinnati suburbs - NONE!!! I heard that Odell went down to the sobriety checkpoint because his girlfriend got popped there, and called him to come help her out. A cop at the scene WARNED her to tell him NOT to come if he was in "similar shape". Obviously Odell didn't either listen or didn't get the message - and showed bad judgement when he was obviously loaded.Isn't that part of being drunk - showing bad judgement. The two angry guys were also talking about Henry's problems originating when a dozen of his relatives moved in with him after Katrina. We need to remember - these are young men, who have had a shortage of (good) role models and way too much money, who have been able to escape consequences of their actions in the past because of their talent on the field. What Marvin needs is a halfway house for these guys - start hanging around people who care for THEM as individuals, and will give them better advice. It's not up to a drunk to decide if they can drive, but up to a drunk's friends!!!Just my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Incorrect. He could have gotten a taxi.He also could have called any number of other people - Eric Ball for one - who would have made the arrangements for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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