TJJackson Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 You've got three players on the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) list right nowOT Adam KieftDE Jonathan FaneneRB Chris Perry As I understand it, they are out 6 weeks sometime thereafter (there may be some roster exemption time and etc delaying this a week or so more) a decision has to be made to eithera) add the player to the roster, waiving another player to create a spot put the player on season ending IRc) trade the player (unlikely)d) waive the playerso...for each of the three players, what do you anticipate happening? I realize this can all change due to injuries over the next month and a half, and so we can update our takes as we go along.my current takeKieftI don't think he'll be healthy enough to go, so he'll go to IR, ending his season again. Given the emergence of the other young OLs, I don't understand why he was PUP'ed instead of IR'ed in the first placeFaneneHonestly, who do you let go at this point to give him a spot? In my dream scenario, Rucker is waived and signed to the PS, but I think he'll be waived if healthy, IR'ed if not.PerryI think Quincy Wilson heads back to the PS to make room for Perry, and the PS will release WR Holt, TE Ghent, or FB Tahi. Yeah, I don't like the guy, but the Bengals seem to like him pretty well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 You've got three players on the PUP (Physically Unable to Perform) list right nowOT Adam KieftDE Jonathan FaneneRB Chris Perry As I understand it, they are out 6 weeks sometime thereafter (there may be some roster exemption time and etc delaying this a week or so more) a decision has to be made to eithera) add the player to the roster, waiving another player to create a spot put the player on season ending IRc) trade the player (unlikely)d) waive the playerso...for each of the three players, what do you anticipate happening? I realize this can all change due to injuries over the next month and a half, and so we can update our takes as we go along.my current takeKieftI don't think he'll be healthy enough to go, so he'll go to IR, ending his season again. Given the emergence of the other young OLs, I don't understand why he was PUP'ed instead of IR'ed in the first placeFaneneHonestly, who do you let go at this point to give him a spot? In my dream scenario, Rucker is waived and signed to the PS, but I think he'll be waived if healthy, IR'ed if not.PerryI think Quincy Wilson heads back to the PS to make room for Perry, and the PS will release WR Holt, TE Ghent, or FB Tahi. Yeah, I don't like the guy, but the Bengals seem to like him pretty wellI say IR them all.Perry would have to prove he was 100% healthy (something I'm not sure he's familiar with) for me to risk putting Wilson back on the PS. Next year Wilson should be our back-up and Perry our change of pace back with Watson hitting the road. I don't want another team to grab Wilson... because he's the perfect back-up for Rudi. With guys like Vernand Morency being traded for Samkon Gado, and guys like DeDe Dorsey being claimed off waivers, you know Wilson won't last.The Bengals seem pretty unwilling to part ways with Watson (probably because of how injury prone Perry seems to be)... but if you let Wilson go, and Rudi gets hurt, who's going to be our physical RB? We won't have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPalmer9 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 its not like kenny watson is an less "injury prone" than chris perry, from what i remember is that kenny watson was on the IR last year...chris perry will be fine week 6 and will continue his way on being a big part of the bengal offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 its not like kenny watson is an less "injury prone" than chris perry, from what i remember is that kenny watson was on the IR last year...chris perry will be fine week 6 and will continue his way on being a big part of the bengal offenseI don't disagree. But they are both the style that are the change of pace. I'd rather have a lower quality change of pace back that stays healthy than 2 injury-prone quality guys.But that's the point. They can't let either of them go, because they can't count on Wilson or Rudi to be a change of pace. The problem is, if you keep a bunch of injury prone guys that are all the same... what happens when the guy who is durable finally does get hurt? We're screwed. I'd rather let Perry sit the whole year out than let someone else grab up Wilson... but that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 You also have to add Thurman coming off suspension in week 6 after the bye to that list.My thoughts? If Perry is healthy he will be back on the roster. We have to remember that it is after week 6 that players can start to practice, but they do not have to start practicing immediately after week 6. Once they start practiccing, they have 21 days to do something. So depending on his status, he may stay on PUP until he is able to begin practicing. I think that Kieft will stay on PUP/IR after the 21 days and Fanene is more of a question. What do you do. Probably someone else will get dinged up, making a spot for him. So nothing really has to happen until after the Ravens game or later depending on when they start practicing. People could get nicked up between now and then.Better question is what do you do with Odell? I think he goes right back in a MLB and Simmons moves back to OLB or the two split time in the middle. Odell is just too good to keep off the field. I think the surprise will be that the 3rd QB may be waived.NFL rule:Players placed on Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform are allowed to begin practicing with the team after the conclusion of the sixth regular-season weekend and continuing after the conclusion of the ninth regular-season weekend. The practice period is not to exceed 21 days. Any time during that 21-day period, teams are allowed to restore the player to the Reserve/PUP list or to the active roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Well, these guys are all on IR for 6 weeks, then the team has 21 days more to take a look at them and make a decision on what to do. So that covers fully half the season -- and a lot can happen in that time. It could easily be that we have had a couple guys injured (not that I hope that happens, but it's likely) and that could open spots for the returnees.I think the more pressing question is, what do we do when Odell is eligible to play again? That's just 3 weeks away. At this point I'd say Wilkins is toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Chris Perry will be valuable when he gets healthy. Watson'll do untill then, but Perry will give our offense an even better spark heading into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Wow... Tasher and Hoosier were on the same page at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Um.... seriously now. Perry will be back on the squad once he is healthy and gained his football shape back. We are still talking about Quincy Wilson here. He has done nothing to prove himself in the regular season of the NFL. I know the guy is physical but Perry can deliver the yards and carries if healthy. Fanene is a bit harder to swallow. Maybe he is IRed. Seems like Bryan Robinson is a bit too old to keep around more than 1 more year. Wouldn't want to lose Fanene. Kieft... he is a hard call. Maybe Kooistra gets the pink slip or Kieft fills in for someone's injury. Olinemen get beat up during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Well, these guys are all on IR for 6 weeks, then the team has 21 days more to take a look at them and make a decision on what to do. So that covers fully half the season -- and a lot can happen in that time. It could easily be that we have had a couple guys injured (not that I hope that happens, but it's likely) and that could open spots for the returnees.I think the more pressing question is, what do we do when Odell is eligible to play again? That's just 3 weeks away. At this point I'd say Wilkins is toast.Usually, though, if a guy gets injured they'll have to replace with another guy at that position to maintain depth. So if a RB or LB gets injured, it's an even trade, but not otherwise.Personally, I'm starting to put long odds of Kieft or Fanene doing much of anything, so I don't much care. Perry better get his ass in gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasher Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Wow... Tasher and Hoosier were on the same page at the same time.Bengals Team and Bengals FANS... MID-SEASON form baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Well, these guys are all on IR for 6 weeks, then the team has 21 days more to take a look at them and make a decision on what to do. So that covers fully half the season -- and a lot can happen in that time. It could easily be that we have had a couple guys injured (not that I hope that happens, but it's likely) and that could open spots for the returnees.I think the more pressing question is, what do we do when Odell is eligible to play again? That's just 3 weeks away. At this point I'd say Wilkins is toast.Nope - AJ Nicholson will be the one let go because 1) he is eligible for the PS and 2) because Nicholson doesn't play ST while Wilkins excels at ST play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Wow... Tasher and Hoosier were on the same page at the same time.Bengals Team and Bengals FANS... MID-SEASON form baby! DC: You're right, of course, but look where our PUP guys are: OL, DL, RB. Those are all areas that typically get hit with injuries. I think we've lost at least one DL at some point for the last two or three seasons, for example. All I'm saying is that 8 weeks from now we may have openings on the roster we didn't expect, so speculation about who'll get cut/IR'd/whatever strikes me as a bit premature.TJ: Good call on Nicholson. That's probably more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 In my dream scenario, Rucker is waived and signed to the PS.... So your dream scenario is centered on the Bengals waiving their 3rd round pick? Hey, look at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Just all depends on injurys I'm sure if a spot doesn't open for anyone besides chris and odell that theyll IR em rather then risk losing..I'd really like to see fanene and peko play next to each other After his roomate thing i doubt anyone would snatch em inless their hurting bad for LB(or like pats and want free infromation on a team) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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