kingwilly Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Well, thye do need a TE....depth at TE is nada currently...If Pope goes (probably) then we will not have an "Impact" TE....just more of the same...Cooper Wallace is Schoebel....who is barely average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I had Whitworth on my want list - but in round 4 or lowerThat, and the fact that they needed another quality defender more, means I absolutely hate this pick.Draft grade so far: D.C for JJF for AWGET MIKE BROWN OUT OF THE DRAFT ROOM!!btw, i love the first round pick, after Lawson went off the board he became my #1 choice.. the 2nd round pick is ok, i kinda expected OL on the first day with all the unsigned players, you have to know we cant sign all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 oh my lord, I thought we had finally seen the last of that idiot DPM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 He called me an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 freaking cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 oh my lord, I thought we had finally seen the last of that idiot DPMWho did you like better? Don't say trade down because you have to have a fair offer for that to happen. What prospect there was better than him? I love the pick of Jonathan Joseph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 The key word there is "PROSPECT"....your r1 guys needs to be IMPACT not PROSPECT......Who would have been better????LewisKiwiC. JacksonT. HowardW. JusticeD. Bullocksshould I go on?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 ^^^ Are you kidding me? None of those players are as good of prospects as Joseph.oh my lord, I thought we had finally seen the last of that idiot DPMWho did you like better? Don't say trade down because you have to have a fair offer for that to happen. What prospect there was better than him? I love the pick of Jonathan Joseph.Last year in our 6th round pick thread, after Tab Perry was drafted, TJJackson typed out the famous phrase "GET MIKE BROWN OUT OF THE DRAFT ROOM!!"He called me an idiot for bringing it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 from bengals.comThe Bengals offered a surprise Saturday in the second round when they selected LSU left tackle Andrew Whitworth with the 55th pick, two selections after the Cowboys grabbed Notre Dame tight end Anthony Fasano. The move looks to be a hedge against losing starting left tackle Levi Jones in free agency next season after his contact expires.wow hobson says hes levis replacement a fast athletic stud like levi with a slow project wow.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 JJ is an average pick at 24. He is a second tier player who could have easily gone in round 2.The Bengals would have earned a better grade from me if they had acted - either by trading up to 22 and getting a top tier defender in Lawson, or by trading down at 24 - rather than sat on their handsSaid another way - they could have made better use of the 24th pick, but did OK. Ergo, grade is a C. Average, expected, not good, not bad.I'm certain they had calls for the 24th pick, particularly since Pittsburgh traded into the pick just below them. I know they said they didn't. If I was running the draft room and took a player at 24 rather than trading down, I'd also say (lie) that I had no calls, so I wouldn't have to defend the rejection of an offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 If they intend on using this pick to let Levi go i wont like it, but I dont think they'd do that. Levi is too good, he will be resigned, imo this is to replace Willie Anderson next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 who says they diden't try trading down? mybe they diden't get any worthy offers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 JJ is an average pick at 24. He is a second tier player who could have easily gone in round 2.The Bengals would have earned a better grade from me if they had acted - either by trading up to 22 and getting a top tier defender in Lawson, or by trading down at 24 - rather than sat on their handsSaid another way - they could have made better use of the 24th pick, but did OK. Ergo, grade is a C. Average, expected, not good, not bad.I'm certain they had calls for the 24th pick, particularly since Pittsburgh traded into the pick just below them. I know they said they didn't. If I was running the draft room and took a player at 24 rather than trading down, I'd also say (lie) that I had no calls, so I wouldn't have to defend the rejection of an offer.Who would you have drafted oh wise one?Do you really think Pitt would have traded for our pick? Kind of a waste for them if you ask me, i dont think they had any fears that we would of drafted a WR, but I guess i should expect that kind of simple minded thinking from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Last year in our 6th round pick thread, after Tab Perry was drafted, TJJackson typed out the famous phrase "GET MIKE BROWN OUT OF THE DRAFT ROOM!!"He called me an idiot for bringing it up Let me explain it to you, as you lack the competence to figure it out for yourself, as demonstrated aboveI described you as an idiot for pretty much what you are, always have been, and probably always will be; and it had nothing to do with your comment re: Mike Brown. Mike Brown does indeed need to stay out of the draft room, preferably even out of the offices at Paul Brown. The less he has to do with the organization, the better off everyone is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I think we all knew an OT was coming, but didn't want to believe it. At this rate, we can get some FINE talent in the third that we didn't expect. While picking a tackle on day one is boring, it has to happen. I would have liked Darryl Tapp though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I really hope this isen't levis replacement but willies.... if they dont resign levi i will cry all year long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 It's for Levi, as Kieft or Kooistra will be Willie's (eventual) replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 /crys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 It's for Levi, as Kieft or Kooistra will be Willie's (eventual) replacement Could be. I would put my money on the thought that they had Willie in mind with this pick, though. Everyone knows how good Levi is, and he should be easy to tag before 2007. I think Levi stays and only Willie hits the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Bet Ko gets snatched by Chargers,cowboys or steelers It's for Levi, as Kieft or Kooistra will be Willie's (eventual) replacement Could be. I would put my money on the thought that they had Willie in mind with this pick, though. Everyone knows how good Levi is, and he should be easy to tag before 2007. I think Levi stays and only Willie hits the road.I'd like to see levi get resigned before then so we can use tag on willie to trade trade him like the jets did for abdallas traded down too the jagsman just sitting here looking at title of hobsons thing I really hope hes smoking off a crack pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 It's for Levi, as Kieft or Kooistra will be Willie's (eventual) replacement Could be. I would put my money on the thought that they had Willie in mind with this pick, though. Everyone knows how good Levi is, and he should be easy to tag before 2007. I think Levi stays and only Willie hits the road.Keep in mind that the franchise tag at the LT position is a very, very expensive one, and further is one that generally pisses off the player so tagged.I'm not saying the couldn't do it, I'm saying they'd probably prefer not to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 It's for Levi, as Kieft or Kooistra will be Willie's (eventual) replacement Could be. I would put my money on the thought that they had Willie in mind with this pick, though. Everyone knows how good Levi is, and he should be easy to tag before 2007. I think Levi stays and only Willie hits the road.Keep in mind that the franchise tag at the LT position is a very, very expensive one, and further is one that generally pisses off the player so tagged.I'm not saying the couldn't do it, I'm saying they'd probably prefer not to do so.but why let levi go it would be insane I could see big willie mybe even steinbach but levi should be our franchise lT o_O if we tagged him i'd say just till they can work deal out with him rather then letting him test waters worst case is we trade him if he wants out after being tagged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 but why let levi go it would be insaneLike anything under the CBA and the CAP, the level of sane-ness will depend on the cost/production of Levi versus the cost and production of the alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 but why let levi go it would be insaneLike anything under the CBA and the CAP, the level of sane-ness will depend on the cost/production of Levi versus the cost and production of the alternative.alt will be cheap compared levi but production will be much different o_O i like levis speed let him deal with some of sack master pash rush specs now were suppossed have this guy protect carsons blind side? so much for protecting carsonThe Bengals feel Whitworth can eventually play right tackle, or move inside to guard, (from updated articale(that i can live with him backing up who we dont sign) but still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJJackson Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Actually, the full quote (bolding is mine) is"The Bengals feel Whitworth can eventually play right tackle, or move inside to guard, as well as play left tackle."I think this probably means the experiment with Andrews is not going as well as we have been told thus far....my understanding is that the athletic Andrews was supposed to be the eventual successor to Levi...but with this pick, they are essentially saying Andrews isn't going to be ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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