HoosierCat Posted March 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 I would much rather continue to beef up the D and try to win 2 of those first four games on D, and with a QB who simply 'manages' the game (doesn't lose it). Do we have that guy already? Good question, but the answer might just be, "Yes." Now, if you are less optimistic, and fear the need to be more than 4 games, well, then what does that say for the realistic chances for the playoffs anyway?I say no first day picks for such a role. Not this year. Not yet.Yeah, that about sums up how I feel as well. This whole "backup QB hunt" has taken on more than a hint of the absurd, with the Bengals going from stating that signing a No. 2 in the first week was FA priority No. 1, to oh, maybe we'll get around to it in May -- and all the while they roll out the red carpet for any and every joker who'll agree to come to town.I said it before, I'll say it again. Shut it down. Put the money on D or at least into o-line extension. And give the damn ball to Krenzel. If he isn't ready to lead this offense, at least temporarily, after more than a year with the team, the WTF are we wasting money on his butt for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 It does seem the Titans are releasing McNair and keep Volek.Drafting a Leinart sems the next option .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Yep I think teaming Lienart back up with Norm Chow will be good for all !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 This whole "backup QB hunt" has taken on more than a hint of the absurd, with the Bengals going from stating that signing a No. 2 in the first week was FA priority No. 1, to oh, maybe we'll get around to it in May -- You really do need to let go of the whole "signing a backup in the 1st week" thing. The Bengals weren't under oath when they said it, things do change, a whole string of better QB's became available, and it's even possible that the remark was made soley for the benefit of Jon Kitna and his agent. Plus, there's been absolutely no downside to waiting. Breath in. Breath out. Let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 JP Losman is about to be released from the Bills....A decent backup maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 JP Losman is about to be released from the Bills....A decent backup maybe? No thanks. He looks like a classic bust to me. He only got one season to start, and the Bills saw all they needed to see. It was a bad scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 I'd do this deal in a heartbeat. Volek is much in the mold of Palmer, only not quite so good. He's got a good arm, smarts, and leadership ability. He's better than any 3rd round QB we could draft.Yeah, except we're not going to draft a 3rd round QB. And saying Volek is in the mold of Palmer but not so good is kind of like saying Trent Dilfer is like Joe Montana except not so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hair, if Joey Harrington is stupid enough to refuse the restructuring of his contract until he is cut, then he would suffer because he wouldn't be able to join a team until at the earliest, late June or early July. And all that means is that his chances of starting are hurt by having to compete with a possible rookie or some other vet that already knows the team.That said, if the Bengals can get Volek or Harrington for a second day pick and re-work the contract for one or two years, then do it. Otherwise, suck it up and get Jamie Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Last chance for someone to answer these:Why should we give up a pick for a one year answer not knowing how many (IF ANY) games they would start (play) in ??Wouldn't that pick be better used for the long term and deal with what we've got ??WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Last chance for someone to answer these:Why should we give up a pick for a one year answer not knowing how many (IF ANY) games they would start (play) in ??Wouldn't that pick be better used for the long term and deal with what we've got ??WHODEY !!!I agree, but if that one pick that the Bengals trade helps the Bengals to go 3-1 or 4-0 instead of 0-4, then I would gladly take the short term solution. I still think they should go with a Jamie Martin or Anthony Wright and hope that Rudi and some amazing catches by TJ and Chad carry the team until Carson comes back. I personally don't think that Harrington is that much of an upgrade over Jamie Martin, but if Marvin Lewis does, then that's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Last chance for someone to answer these:Why should we give up a pick for a one year answer not knowing how many (IF ANY) games they would start (play) in ??Wouldn't that pick be better used for the long term and deal with what we've got ??WHODEY !!!lets say they give a 5th rounder for him .. he comes in here and leads the team to a 3-1 start.His stock goes up ... we trade him at the end of the year for a higher pick than what we gave for him.. win win for everyone... its a chance but he does have experience and our Oline and wideouts will make him look better than in Motown..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonboat Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 I would much rather continue to beef up the D and try to win 2 of those first four games on D, and with a QB who simply 'manages' the game (doesn't lose it). Do we have that guy already? Good question, but the answer might just be, "Yes." Now, if you are less optimistic, and fear the need to be more than 4 games, well, then what does that say for the realistic chances for the playoffs anyway?I say no first day picks for such a role. Not this year. Not yet.Yeah, that about sums up how I feel as well. This whole "backup QB hunt" has taken on more than a hint of the absurd, with the Bengals going from stating that signing a No. 2 in the first week was FA priority No. 1, to oh, maybe we'll get around to it in May -- and all the while they roll out the red carpet for any and every joker who'll agree to come to town.I said it before, I'll say it again. Shut it down. Put the money on D or at least into o-line extension. And give the damn ball to Krenzel. If he isn't ready to lead this offense, at least temporarily, after more than a year with the team, the WTF are we wasting money on his butt for?I couldn't agree more, if we improve the D by signing Adams and / or Lavar & through the draft hopefully we'll be able to keep the game close.Address the O-line & give the ball to Rudi ,he's certainly more than capable, just ask the QB to take care of the ball.Why is everyone so down on Krenzel ? He did a decent job with Chi. & we only seen him in a couple preseason games not knowing the Off.. We have one of the best O-lines in football the QB doesn't have to be Superman & win the game himself ... just don't lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Last chance for someone to answer these:Why should we give up a pick for a one year answer not knowing how many (IF ANY) games they would start (play) in ??Wouldn't that pick be better used for the long term and deal with what we've got ??WHODEY !!!lets say they give a 5th rounder for him .. he comes in here and leads the team to a 3-1 start.His stock goes up ... we trade him at the end of the year for a higher pick than what we gave for him.. win win for everyone... its a chance but he does have experience and our Oline and wideouts will make him look better than in Motown..... I'll buy that... I guess. Lets say, he comes in and F*CKS UP like he did in Detroit and then we are 0-4 and out a pick ?? Call it devils advocate here...WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Hair, if Joey Harrington is stupid enough to refuse the restructuring of his contract until he is cut, then he would suffer because he wouldn't be able to join a team until at the earliest, late June or early July. And all that means is that his chances of starting are hurt by having to compete with a possible rookie or some other vet that already knows the team. If I'm Harrington the opportunity to handpick the coaching staff that will be may partner in the attempt to resurrect my career would take total precedent over all other concerns. So again, I'd agree to renegotiate my current contract now only if I was completely comfortable with what I was told during a visit with one of the teams interested in trading with the Lions. If I don't like what I hear I refuse to renegotiate, killing all interest in a trade, and forcing the Lions to cut Harrington before they have to pay a roster bonus. The most stupid thing Harrington could do is allow the Lions to determine where he plays based soley upon which team offers the most trade compensation. Last, in the Bengal example, signing now or later will have absolutely zero impact on Harrington being given the starting position because if Palmer isn't ready to go Harrington would get the nod over Krenzel, Johnson, or a draft pick without a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshfan Posted March 30, 2006 Report Share Posted March 30, 2006 Last chance for someone to answer these:Why should we give up a pick for a one year answer not knowing how many (IF ANY) games they would start (play) in ??Wouldn't that pick be better used for the long term and deal with what we've got ??WHODEY !!!lets say they give a 5th rounder for him .. he comes in here and leads the team to a 3-1 start.His stock goes up ... we trade him at the end of the year for a higher pick than what we gave for him.. win win for everyone... its a chance but he does have experience and our Oline and wideouts will make him look better than in Motown..... I'll buy that... I guess. Lets say, he comes in and F*CKS UP like he did in Detroit and then we are 0-4 and out a pick ?? Call it devils advocate here...WHODEY !!!That could happen ( praying in wont )....here's my take on Harrington.In the span of four years with the Lions the kid has had 2 head coaches, 4 offensive coordinators and 3 QB coaches all under the guidance of a GM that doesnt act like he even knows what he's doing.He was made to run a westcoast offense when clearly his skills are that of a downfield pocket passer that compliments the running game... Who could succeed under those circumstances? I think Cincy would be an ideal place for him to rectify his reputation as a kid with a bright future... Even if they sign him for one year and cant trade him wouldnt it be worth the effort to see if he can keep the team in contention for a playoff spot and possibly the super bowl until Palmer is healthy.. And who's to say Palmer wont get injured again? We just dont know that ...I hope the team signs him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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