cincykid06 Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 What do you guys think? I know he has a reputation of being a little lazy but I think he's going to be dominant in NFL. He worked over all of the top offensive line prospects at the combine from what I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Shrug, I'm still hoping Michael Huff slips to us (I stood too close to Spain and the smoke drifted my way).I don't like lazy. We already have Askew to be lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I don't think I would be all hateful and sh*t, but I would rather Bunkley fell to us at #24 !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 NO DT in ROUND 1 -- PLEASE!!! No question that we need a DT -- but please don't waste a first round pick. The difference between those in the first round and some of those in the later rounds is NOT that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I don't think I would be all hateful and sh*t, but I would rather Bunkley fell to us at #24 !!!WHODEY !!!What he said. But if we don't draft a DT round 1, I would love to see us draft Orien Harris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcarpenter62 Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 I don't think I would be all hateful and sh*t, but I would rather Bunkley fell to us at #24 !!!WHODEY !!!What he said. But if we don't draft a DT round 1, I would love to see us draft Orien Harris!Gabe is a fat, lazy piece of s**t now... imagine what he could become once he is a millionaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 The man is projected as a first rounder... If he were as terribly lazy and fat as everyone keeps saying, then why aren't mocks dropping him into the third round? He's in this position for a reason, he's good. I'd be happy with this pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 The man is projected as a first rounder... If he were as terribly lazy and fat as everyone keeps saying, then why aren't mocks dropping him into the third round? He's in this position for a reason, he's good. I'd be happy with this pick.Agreed. I haven't seen him fall far. I don't get it, if someone is fat, that automatically makes them lazy, and they must suck. From what I have heard, Watson is a hard worker, and very likeable by coaches. He is so big he can attract double teams, which can help Jumpy or JSmooth get pressure on the QB.!! Could you imagine Watson and Adams or G.Jackson on the line, damn no one would be able to run on us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 The man is projected as a first rounder... If he were as terribly lazy and fat as everyone keeps saying, then why aren't mocks dropping him into the third round? He's in this position for a reason, he's good. I'd be happy with this pick.Why was Randy Moss projected as a top five pick in the draft only to plummet to the bottom of the round?Why were the safeties in last years draft projected on the first day and ended up going undrafted?Why ask why? Try Bud Dry!Seriously, it's one thing for helmet hair Kiper and company to project these guys out with their limited information and far less investigation than what coaches do. It's another to actually watch the draft unfold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Seriously, it's one thing for helmet hair Kiper and company to project these guys out with their limited information and far less investigation than what coaches do. It's another to actually watch the draft unfold. Good point. Still, if Watson's laziness is so obvious to message board posters such as ourselves, then I'd have to assume Kiper and company is well aware of this fact as well. You're right, we have no idea what to expect from the draft, and Watson very well could fall to a later round. The problem I have is that some folks are making it sound as though that is some sort of inevitable occurrence. I just don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalPappaw Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 IMHO the only reason that Gabe Watson is staying in the first round is size and POTENTIAL!!!! Not his playmaking ability -- he just does NOT make plays consistently for me to think of him as a first rounder.Watson's play reminds me of Jimmy Kennedy from a couple of years ago. The draftnik world falls in love with size and POTENTIAL -- and ignore the lack of playmaking. I don't care if he is FAT -- if he made plays consistently. Gabe Watson DOES NOT make plays consistently.Using the size and potential logic -- Hulk Hogan and Andre The Giant would have been Hall of Fame DTs. Later in the draft, there will be guys like Le Kevin Smith, John Jolly, Jesse Mahelona, Dusty Dvoracek, Orien Harris, Claude Wroten, and, yes, maybe even Rod Wright ... who could be MORE useful to the Bengals than Gabe Watson. I vote for drafting the BEST PLAYMAKER AVAILABLE in Round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 If we don't go for a DT in the first round, then I'd love to see us grab Harris or Wroten in the second. That'd be some excellent value. Still, I think we'll see a highly touted DE or S fall to us in the second round, and will pick accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 Gabe Watson did say that he has talked a lot with the Cincinnati Bengals...I do have a feeling we will take him. I would love to see Orien Harris as well, if we don't get Watson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGrizzlyBaer Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 who was the dt from wisconsin last year that fell like a rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepudgester Posted March 27, 2006 Report Share Posted March 27, 2006 who was the dt from wisconsin last year that fell like a rock!Anttaj Hawthorne (marijuana), he's playing for the Raiders and the Frankfurt Galaxy right now.Overall, I'd say I'd be happy with Watson. Lloyd Carr at Michigan doesn't always make the best out of talent, and I like Marvin's odds as a motivater a lot better than Carr's. If this kid had a more consistent motor, he'd easily be the #1 DT in this class and a Top 5 pick. Marvin will add him to a DT rotation here and keep him rested so that he gives 100 % all the time. I'm a fan of Watson at 24 for those reasons and many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 who was the dt from wisconsin last year that fell like a rock!Anttaj Hawthorne (marijuana), he's playing for the Raiders and the Frankfurt Galaxy right now.Overall, I'd say I'd be happy with Watson. Lloyd Carr at Michigan doesn't always make the best out of talent, and I like Marvin's odds as a motivater a lot better than Carr's. If this kid had a more consistent motor, he'd easily be the #1 DT in this class and a Top 5 pick. Marvin will add him to a DT rotation here and keep him rested so that he gives 100 % all the time. I'm a fan of Watson at 24 for those reasons and many more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ29 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 IMHO the only reason that Gabe Watson is staying in the first round is size and POTENTIAL!!!! Not his playmaking ability -- he just does NOT make plays consistently for me to think of him as a first rounder.Watson's play reminds me of Jimmy Kennedy from a couple of years ago. The draftnik world falls in love with size and POTENTIAL -- and ignore the lack of playmaking. I don't care if he is FAT -- if he made plays consistently. Gabe Watson DOES NOT make plays consistently.Using the size and potential logic -- Hulk Hogan and Andre The Giant would have been Hall of Fame DTs. Later in the draft, there will be guys like Le Kevin Smith, John Jolly, Jesse Mahelona, Dusty Dvoracek, Orien Harris, Claude Wroten, and, yes, maybe even Rod Wright ... who could be MORE useful to the Bengals than Gabe Watson. I vote for drafting the BEST PLAYMAKER AVAILABLE in Round 1. Bingo.I was about to go on a rant, and you saved me the time. Thank you Pappaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincy9275 Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 all the draft reports on watson do say he is fat and lazy they just say it in a nicer way like unmotived seems bored takes plays off . this guy was benched last season for being lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengalbob Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 The man is projected as a first rounder... If he were as terribly lazy and fat as everyone keeps saying, then why aren't mocks dropping him into the third round? He's in this position for a reason, he's good. I'd be happy with this pick.Wait a minute, wasn't Antaj Hawthorne a first round projection in many mocks? Didn't a lot of mocks have him going to the Bengals at 17? Not knocking ya, just saying that the a$$hats making the mocks make mistakes, sometimes big ones. Is GW going to be one of those mistakes?Edit: I need to read the whole thread before posting!! Sorry!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalbutch Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 We already have a lazy unmotivated DT, his name is Askew. No to Watson !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 I seriously doubt that Askew has seen so much time on the bench simply because he is too "lazy." C'mon, Marvin has kept him around this long because he sees a player with potential who hasn't had his opportunity yet. If he looked Marvin in the eye and said "I don't feel like subbing in this play." do you REALLY think he'd still be here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Mybe they talked to him as a possible risk in 2nd rnd incase ko isen't there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 IMHO the only reason that Gabe Watson is staying in the first round is size and POTENTIAL!!!! Not his playmaking ability -- he just does NOT make plays consistently for me to think of him as a first rounder.Watson's play reminds me of Jimmy Kennedy from a couple of years ago. The draftnik world falls in love with size and POTENTIAL -- and ignore the lack of playmaking. I don't care if he is FAT -- if he made plays consistently. Gabe Watson DOES NOT make plays consistently.Using the size and potential logic -- Hulk Hogan and Andre The Giant would have been Hall of Fame DTs. Later in the draft, there will be guys like Le Kevin Smith, John Jolly, Jesse Mahelona, Dusty Dvoracek, Orien Harris, Claude Wroten, and, yes, maybe even Rod Wright ... who could be MORE useful to the Bengals than Gabe Watson. I vote for drafting the BEST PLAYMAKER AVAILABLE in Round 1. I read this post and then did a little research on Marcus Stroud, the Jaguars All-Pro Defensive TackleAndy Lyons/Allsport Stroud is a defensive tackle with an impressive combination of size, strength, and athletic ability. He has long arms and is a good inside run defender who is quick at the snap and springs forward into gaps nicely. Stroud flashes exciting tools but doesn't make as many plays as expected from a player with his ability. He would be drafted high more on potential than overall production.Wow that sounds like what you are saying. Why draft someone for potential than production, becuase if they didn't produce much in college then they will suck. They said the same thing about Stroud, who has a similar build to Watson, that he was lazy and fat. Look how he turned out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepudgester Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Actually, I assure you, Gabe Watson was quite disruptive in college. Now it may not show in his stats, but his presence alone could strike fear into opposing offenses. Watson is a 2-Gap style intimidator who has rare ability to collapse the pocket and can make plays. He is a two down player at this point, which isn't a problem, because many big DT's are. The guy does have a lot of potential, but I think he may have a higher floor than some of you think. He was a good college player and should be a solid pro.Also, Watson is not exactly fat. The 6'3 1/2 339 pound DT is very solidly built, he Bench Pressed 225 36 Times, which is well above average. He's a very strong, not soft, middle man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 28, 2006 Report Share Posted March 28, 2006 Yea look at the pic in my sig...he doesn't look fat at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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