With our Cap room Here We Go

[Spor_tees]

The Bangals started free agency with a projected 19 Million under the cap. If you take away the rookie pool which I believe is like 4.5 Million, and the tendered contracts to the restricted free agents which is like 2 Million, that left the Bengals with about 12.5 Million. Here is a chart of what I think might and could go down with the remaining cap.

Transaction----------------------Cap Figure---------------Running Cap Total

Signed Dexter Jackson----------Cap Hit of 2 Million--------------10.5 Million

Cut Duane Clemmons-----------Add 1 Million to the Cap---------11.5 Million

Sign Jamie Martin----------------Cap Hit of 1 Million---------------10.5 Million

Sign Lavar Arrington-------------Cap Hit of 3.5 Million-------------7 Million

Sign Sam Adams-----------------Cap Hit of 2.5 Million-------------4.5 Million

Sign Keyshawn Johnson---------Cap Hit of 2.5 Million-------------2 Million

Cut John Thorton----------------Add 1.5 Million to the Cap--------3.5 Million

All that would leave us with 3.5 Million in Cap space that we could use to extend an O-lineman or 2 this year. With the high growth of the Salary Cap next year we could resign the rest. If we do in fact sign Lavar Arrington and go to a 3-4 defense, we will need to get rid of some of the DT we have because we simply won't need guys that are too small to play nose and to big and slow to play DE. Does that mean goodbye to B-Rob too?

If we do all these transactions, draft Bunkly in the first, a TE in the second (I'm praying for Pope), a S or CB in rounds 3 & 4, a DE in round 5, and a QB or WR in rounds 6 and 7 (Ingle Martin!), we should be in AWESOME shape! I'm not taking into account the compensatory picks either.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

You forget things like the CBA giving KK a raise.

Also, I'd rather see us re-sign Akilli's Myth than draft a QB.

Oh and I'd rather we don't sign Arrington or Beergut and sign Pickett instead!

[Stripes]

I'd imagine that the Bengals will want more than that much money left going into the season... to extend the offensive line and restructure Chad's contract. I don't want Keyshawn, and I think we could do fine without either Adams or Arrington.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

I don't think we will be restructuring Chad's contract this year. I think Chad will be quiet and let us get free agents and wait for next year, after we win a playoff game or 3.

[kingwilly]

Let me adjust:

Transaction----------------------Cap Figure---------------Running Cap Total

Signed Dexter Jackson----------Cap Hit of 2 Million--------------10.5 Million

Cut Duane Clemmons-----------Add 1 Million to the Cap---------11.5 Million

Sign Aaron Brooks----------------Cap Hit of 2.5 Million---------------9.5 Million

Sign Ryan Pickett-------------Cap Hit of 3.5 Million-------------6.5 Million

Sign Tim Carter---------------Cap Hit of MAYBE 1 Million-------------5.5 Million

Cut John Thorton----------------Add 1.5 Million to the Cap--------7 Million

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Keep in mind Fre Agency has another big date in June...and depending on who we draft, health issues, etc, we need more than just the rookie pool to have flexibility to make moves.

[bengalboomer7]

Have you ever even remotley followed the bengals organization over say the last 15 years

When have we ever signed that many big name, hyped up, aging vets like that. Who do you think our owner is, Dan Snyder

Sorry, i couldn't help it

Keyshawn sucks and is about 34 and my head will explode if we sign Lavar, but I'll just shrug my shoulders on Sam

[bengalindian]

I like kingwilly's idea.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Pickett will cost far more than what willy projected.

[bengalindian]

Pickett will cost far more than what willy projected.

Who cares? Sign him...he's young.

[Spor_tees]

First off, if we lose K-Wash and Walter the Cap Number for Restricted Free Agents goes down. This would cover any salary increases from the new CBA.

Second off if we lose them both and if Henry is out an extended period of time that leaves us with 3 WR's on the roster. And with Chad's Cramp problems, we need more depth than that for sure, and I don't mean just a guy we reach for that has "potential." Do you really want a gun like Carson Palmer out there with blanks to throw to? And Keyshawn is NOT washed up or terrible. If you watched ANY Dallas games last year you saw that he was the CLUTCH guy that made some unbelieveable catches and was never scared to give up his body. Tab Perry looks like he can be a very solid player, but I wouldn't feel comfortable with him just yet as our #3 WR with as many 3 WR sets the Bengals run.

Thirdly, when we extend the contracts of the lineman out it does not necessarily mean they are going to be GIGANTIC Cap hits. Most of the time when you extend a contract it helps the team more than it hurts them. When they extended Carson's contract it helped our cap room because it took away some of the large escalators and replaced them with guarenteed money that could be planned for.

And lastly, if Bunkley is the athletic player he looks to be, he could not only rotate in at NT he could also play some downs at DE. That would allow the Bengals to maybe even get rid of B-Rob because he wouldn't fit well into the 3-4 system at all. That is unless he loses a few pounds and gets a lot faster to rotate in at DE. Which isn't going to happen.

[GROIIIDayton]

this will never happen. By the way Bunkley will be drafted in the top 15

[ArmyBengal]

Pickett will cost far more than what willy projected.

Who cares? Sign him...he's young.

ROCK ON !!!! That's the attitude !!!!

WHODEY !!!

[BTG]

Why on earth would anyone want the Bengals to sign Aaron Brooks? The guy makes more mistakes than an elementary schooler trying to color on a bouncing schoolbus. And Keyshawn!? If they sign him, I will cancel my Sunday Ticket package and burn my Bengals hat in protest.

Also, Pickett was supposedly offered 4.5 mil a year to stay with the Bighorns, so if the Bengals were to sign him, we'd be looking at 5 million a year for a player with a reputation for being lazy. Yea, he had an excellent season in '05, but it was a contract year. It wouldn't be the first time a player busted his butt for a big contract only to fall back into his old habits once he received it.

If I were in charge, I would sign:

QB: Josh McCown or Jay Fiedler

CB: Charles Woodson (if he'd take 2-3 million, which I think he would)

FS: Jackson (already happened)

I'd also take a serious look at Julian Peterson.

And draft:

1. DT (Bunkley - assuming he falls...Watson if he doesn't.)

2. TE (Pope, Lewis, Klopfenstein, Fasano)

3. DE (Dumervil, Haralson, Tapp, McCargo)

4. S (Peprah, Roman)

But that's just my take on things.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Pickett will cost far more than what willy projected.

Who cares? Sign him...he's young.

ROCK ON !!!! That's the attitude !!!!

WHODEY !!!

I agree. I'm just pointing out an error in slick willie's numbers.

[TJJackson]

Pickett was supposedly offered 4.5 mil a year to stay with the Bighorns, so if the Bengals were to sign him, we'd be looking at 5 million a year for a player with a reputation for being lazy. Yea, he had an excellent season in '05, but it was a contract year. It wouldn't be the first time a player busted his butt for a big contract only to fall back into his old habits once he received it.

So you sign him to a contract with Mar 1 roster bonuses between each year....that way he's always playing hard for the guarenteed money (exactly like a signing bonus, only scheduled) carrot in front of him

[BTG]

So you sign him to a contract with Mar 1 roster bonuses between each year....that way he's always playing hard for the guarenteed money (exactly like a signing bonus, only scheduled) carrot in front of him

That's good in theory, but why would he sign for that when you know some team is going to be dumb enough to give him a guaranteed contract with a huge signing bonus?

*cough* Washington/Cleveland/Arizona *cough*

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

So you sign him to a contract with Mar 1 roster bonuses between each year....that way he's always playing hard for the guarenteed money (exactly like a signing bonus, only scheduled) carrot in front of him

That's good in theory, but why would he sign for that when you know some team is going to be dumb enough to give him a guaranteed contract with a huge signing bonus?

*cough* Washington/Cleveland/Arizona *cough*

Naw. Washington Cleveland and AZ are probably done now. They are sprinters, not marathon signers....

[Pandre]

Why on earth would anyone want the Bengals to sign Aaron Brooks? The guy makes more mistakes than an elementary schooler trying to color on a bouncing schoolbus. And Keyshawn!? If they sign him, I will cancel my Sunday Ticket package and burn my Bengals hat in protest.

Also, Pickett was supposedly offered 4.5 mil a year to stay with the Bighorns, so if the Bengals were to sign him, we'd be looking at 5 million a year for a player with a reputation for being lazy. Yea, he had an excellent season in '05, but it was a contract year. It wouldn't be the first time a player busted his butt for a big contract only to fall back into his old habits once he received it.

If I were in charge, I would sign:

QB: Josh McCown or Jay Fiedler

CB: Charles Woodson (if he'd take 2-3 million, which I think he would)

FS: Jackson (already happened)

I'd also take a serious look at Julian Peterson.

And draft:

1. DT (Bunkley - assuming he falls...Watson if he doesn't.)

2. TE (Pope, Lewis, Klopfenstein, Fasano)

3. DE (Dumervil, Haralson, Tapp, McCargo)

4. S (Peprah, Roman)

But that's just my take on things.

BTG you need to drop the Charles Woodson thing. I don't think we should replace one aging CB with another aging CB. Plus Madden is not a very good reprentation of how good a player is in the real world. Other then that though I agree with you.

[Stripes]

I was just checking out Woodson's career stats...

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12841

They honestly aren't as impressive as I'd have expected... He hasn't had a big interception year, or deflected many passes. He does seem to make a good number of tackles though, for whatever that's worth.

[Pandre]

That says something about his coverage skills not being that great.

[BTG]

BTG you need to drop the Charles Woodson thing. I don't think we should replace one aging CB with another aging CB. Plus Madden is not a very good reprentation of how good a player is in the real world. Other then that though I agree with you.

Oh come on now...the Madden thing was a joke. I thought you would have picked up on that by the big laughing face I inserted next to it. The thing is, I've seen people actually make the argument that a player is good on Madden, therefore he must be good in real life.That rationale always makes me smile. According to Madden, Mike Vick is the best EVER.

But seriously, regarding Woodson, it's like I said before: I think he has something to prove this year. Also, you can't judge a player on statistics. How many times did Woodson lock a receiver down so the QB didn't throw that way? How effective was he covering the other team's primary threat? Those are the sort of things stats don't tell you. If you look at stats, Deltha O'Neal is one of the best cornerbacks in the league. In reality, he's not even a top ten player at his position...maybe not even top 20.

[kingwilly]

Re-adjustment and some explanation:

Transaction----------------------Cap Figure---------------Running Cap Total

Signed Dexter Jackson----------Cap Hit of 2 Million--------------10.5 Million

Cut Duane Clemmons-----------Add 1 Million to the Cap---------11.5 Million

Sign Aaron Brooks----------------Cap Hit of 2.5 Million-----------9.0 Million

Sign Tim Carter---------------Cap Hit of MAYBE 1 Million---------8.0 Million

Cut John Thorton----------------Add 1.5 Million to the Cap--------9.5 Million

Can't Ryan Pickett-------------xxxxxxxxxxx------------------xxxxxxxxxxxxsinged by GB!

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Brooks makes less mistakes than Fiedler or McCown, INT.

Brooks

82 Starts 2771-att 1563-comp 56.4% 19156yrds 6.91ypa 120TD 84INT (20+)-253 (40+)45 Rating 79.7

Fiedler

60 Starts 1717-att 1008-comp 58.7% 11844yrds 6.90ypa 69TD 66INT (20+)-157 (40+)-23 Rating 77.1

McCown

22 Starts 862-att 498-comp 57.8% 5431yrds 6.30ypa 25TD 29INT (20+)-65 (40+)-11 Rating72.1

ATT-to-INT ratio

Brooks...32-1

Fiedler...25-1

McCown...29-1

Jey to this, please look at the "Long-balls" of 20+ and 40+.....that's the ticket!!!!!!

As for "Me-Shawn' I'm not sure this team has room for that kind of ego...

[Pandre]

Sorry about that must have missed the humor (it's easy to do on a message board).

You make good arguements I just don't see him coming here and I am not upset by that for a minute.