BTG Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Pollack at end in a 3-4 ?? I'm not sure about that either.No, at defensive end they'd have Geathers & Smith & whomever the other 4-3 tackle ends up being (Bunkley? **crosses fingers**) would play nose guard. Then you'd have Thurman, Arrington, Pollack, & Simmons playing LB being them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Geathers isn't a DE in a 3/4, he's a linebacker.HEY TNBT, Pickett left without a contract yesterday. The hope is still alive !!! Although, it may be short lived, he's going to Buffalo...WHODEY !!!If we let another guy shuffle off to Buffalo, I'm going to be annoyed for the first time in free agency. LETS PICKET FOR PICKETT! Who's with me? We can meet at PBS and hold up signs that say Ryan!I'll see ya down there! It is only my one wish that the Bengals EVER have a former OSU star that actually plays on there team. (See Cleveland Browns). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTG Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 It is only my one wish that the Bengals EVER have a former OSU star that actually plays on there team. (See Cleveland Browns).I'll second that. I'm praying for Teddy Ginn to land in Cincinnati next year. Also, I like Chris Perry now (when he's healthy), but I was LIVID when the Bengals drafted him instead of Chris Gamble a few years ago. I literally threw a box of kleenex across the room. I mean, Perry was the guy who KILLED the Bucks that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 It is only my one wish that the Bengals EVER have a former OSU star that actually plays on there team. (See Cleveland Browns).I'll second that. I'm praying for Teddy Ginn to land in Cincinnati next year. In my best Homer Simpson impression....MMMMM Teddy Ginn...Forget Hester this year if we had a chance for Ginn, but once again, he will be gone WAAAAY before we pick in the first. I just can't see Ginn falling to #32 !!! WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Sorry - post edited, noticed Lance's comments were posted by Sox here already.At this point, yes, the Bengals' would be pretty smallish upfront, with a LOT of speed and pass rush improvement.The implication was that Geathers would be rotated in on passing downs - if I'm reading into that correctly. I have no problem with that. There's nothing to say that Geathers can't put on 15-20 pounds either, and get him up around 290-295 or more - that's fine for a DT, there are plenty of good Dt's folks that aren't 350 pound behemoths, there just aren't that many of those that are actually good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiLBurn Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Geathers to DT doesn't sound all that great to me unless he has a big fatty next to him to occupy some blockers... Thornton is bigger than Geathers is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 This could work, but ONLY if we sign Adams and possibly draft a DT too. It would be kind of like the Patriots, who have a lot of hybrid LB/DE types who can attack the QB and cover pretty well. Arrington can cover fine and blow the crap out of people. Clearly Pollack is a hybrid guy. So think about having Bunk and Adams clogging the middle, Odell at MLB, and then four of the following on the field rotating in/out: Smith, Geathers, Pollack, Simmons, Arrington, and Landon. You could give lots of different looks, would work fantastic with a nice zone blitz scheme.I'm just saying, this would make Belichick's day. It all depends how much coin Arrington wants, but after the media assassination he got last year, I can't imagine it would be much.If they try to do this with Geathers as a DT, forget it.This could work, but ONLY if we sign Adams and possibly draft a DT too. It would be kind of like the Patriots, who have a lot of hybrid LB/DE types who can attack the QB and cover pretty well. Arrington can cover fine and blow the crap out of people. Clearly Pollack is a hybrid guy. So think about having Bunk and Adams clogging the middle, Odell at MLB, and then four of the following on the field rotating in/out: Smith, Geathers, Pollack, Simmons, Arrington, and Landon. You could give lots of different looks, would work fantastic with a nice zone blitz scheme. Start Smith, Pollack, Simmons, and Arrington. To hell with whatever you call it - 3-4, 4-3, who cares. Since Pollack realistically was as much DE as LB last year, you could switch from 4-3 to 3-4 by having pollack stand up.I'm just saying, this would make Belichick's day. It all depends how much coin Arrington wants, but after the media assassination he got last year, I can't imagine it would be much.If they try to do this with Geathers as a DT, forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiLBurn Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Is there an echo in here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 There are certainly uses to which Arrington could be put quite effectively. I still think a case can be made thast, if they're going to change course and make a big splash in FA, then a position like DE or DT would have served them better. But if Arrington ends up in stripes, I will applaud long and loudly. I can't very well ding the Bengals for doing exactly what I've been urging: quit fiddly-farting around with multiple dimestore FAs, put your money in a big pile and shove it at one guy who might actually have an impact.I'm not concerned about his rocky time in DC. Let's not forget that during his tenure there, the Redskins were the NFC East's answer to the Bengals. Last season was their first winning season in 6 years (constituting Arrington's entire career), thanks to a string of crappy QBs, clueless coaches, and an owner whose fiscal recklessness was every bit as damaging as Mikey fiscal restraint. Heck, he just agreed to pay $4 million to secure his release. So I'm willing to bet he'll "de-Leon-ize" just like Corey Dillon did once he gets into a new suit.Now, all that said, what are the chances he'll be a Bengal? IMHO, pretty damn low. All the negative media, as well as his age (he'll be 28 before the season starts, so he's on the downslope, tho he ought to have several good years left) will work against him, but the bottom line is that he could very easily have a couple Pro Bowl seasons left in him, too. If the Bengals really want him, they're going to have drop all their usual negotiating crap and blow his socks off to start with. If they give him one of their usual "reasonable" offers, his agent will just take it, shop in around, and someone will give him the same money in, say, 3 years instead of 4 and then tack on a couple years of baloney bucks (just like the Raiders did with Sapp).In short, if they want him they'll have to step up for him, and I don't have any confidence that they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 BTG, Pickett left Green Bay without a contract yesterday. Since then he's shuffled off to Buffalo for a visit. As for Arrington, I think many of you are making too much out of the old quotes detailing the friction between him and Marvin. Not only are they old news they're not the whole story. Later stories detailed how both sides mended fences. Whether they ever became close enough to desire a future working relationship is anyones guess, but Marvin got the most out of Arrington...a point that can't be lost upon him now. I'm just saying....Is there an echo in here? Is there an echo in here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Thorton will still be here. Geathers will go in on pass rush first. Thorton also got tired. This could help both of these guys. Also pollak probably wont be playing like a traditional DE He will be like the LOLB/De Kevin greene,Derrik Tohmas,LT played. Geathers will be the real DE. Marvin wants a 3-4, 4-3 interchangable guy. Waterboy is it. the real ? is Adams good enough to pull of the NT. Pollak will be buzzing around everywhere as the Joker in the Joker D. This has real potential. It also worries me how long they will take to get used to this new wrinkle in the D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Sorry about the doulble but PFT is reporting that the giants are saying Arrington is looking for big money! Arrington to giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Funk Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Actually I am hearing it is a scheme issue in NY. He won't fit well with the coaches, defensive set, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandre Posted March 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Didn't Arrington go up there and say that he felt that it was not the place for him (maybe his agent was the one who said that). To me that sounds like they were willing to fork over the dough.I do feel kind of like this is another Sapp situation: player comes in, the Bengals make a moderate offer, the fans get excited, then the player goes and uses that amount to get our offer plus more from another organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 I still have yet to see anything about Arrington getting any type of anything from the Bengals... Did I miss something ???WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 His best season as a pro was with Marvin...90 tackles 11 sacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 He isnt looking to get rich either this is going to happen I can feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yeah I haven't seen anything either. Where are you people getting this stuff from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Dayton Daily news, and PFT, scout talk. take it for what its woth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Why would Geathers move inside when Smith played very effectively there? How would Geathers be better than a DT like the Bunk or Watson??? What DOES jump out here is that the talk of having Arrington and Pollack playing on the same side, with the ability to switch from 4-3 to 3-4 would be a lethal scenario... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandre Posted March 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yeah I feel what you are saying Spain. But you know it's a Tueday afternoon and apparently none of us have any real work to do so we might as well get excited about something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 yep, Im playing chess at the moment just waiting because my wife wont let me touch the remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Yeah I haven't seen anything either. Where are you people getting this stuff from?DDN and McAllister. It's all earlier in the thread. FWIW, I shot off a note to "Hobson's Choice" about Arrington and Adams. Geoff was kind enough to bounce back a quick one-sentence reply saying that as far as he knew at this point, the LaVar stuff was just rumor, and that Sam's chatter about the team looks to him like a "lure," i.e. Adams trying to get the Bengals into a round of bidding with the 'fins.Now, I wouldn't have expected him to say anything different (in fact, I didn't expect a response at all, so props!) even if something was going on. He's gonna tell me, some anonymous yutz from New Jersey, that, say, oh yeah, the Bengals are meeting with LaVar right now? I think not. But in this case his response matches my suspicions, namely that there's far less here than meets the eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Poston is singing like a bird. So he can get his boys signed.While i would agree that sam is trying to lure us. He wants 3.5. We called grady,if he wants to be here its time for a pay cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Pretty much what I figured. Let's get the Bengals involved to jack up the price.Kudos to the Bengals, I just read that while they are talking to Adams and Grady, that no visits will be scheduled. Can you just imagine the bill if we brought both in for dinner!Way to go on not falling into the FA trap just like every year.Plus, I think I'm about the only one that's happy with the way the Bengals FA is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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