johnson85 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Someone may have asked this already but i was just wonder what you guys thought about adding Adam Archuleta. He had 70 total tackles this past season 53 of them were solo. I am still in favor of drafting a SS though. I posted the link to his stats below. ESPN STATS Quote
Spain Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Marvin said he is sgining a safety, that would be the best one. Quote
mgilgris Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I live in st louis, and the people here all say he is horrible. I havent really watched him play much, but hearing what I have heard is not a good sign of his ability Quote
HoTbOy Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 The same thing was said about DOneal and he is a pro bowler with us, I think that Coyle can do for Archuleta what he did for Oneal...plus we need him more for his run stopping ability, i would take a chance on him... Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 How old is Achuleta anyway ?? I think he's getting older and can't see that being the way Marvin would like to go. Veteran leadership ?? Don't we have enough of that ?? I won't bite on that one again when we have the issues we have on D that require younger faster guys. That was a good line when we were 2-14 and had no direction, but not any longer. I say, NO...WHODEY !!! Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 AA would be a good signing, he might be able to get everyone else on the team to learn to tackle on their own and to move to gang tackle as well. Yes, he's a bit older but he's only in his 5th year so he's not OLD yet. He doesn't pick off many balls, but he tackles and he is very productive every year.He might be expensive though... Quote
bengalboomer7 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 NO. I think Adam is overrated and kinda weak in coverage. Plus, he's the #1 safety probably in the free agent market and will #1 Get more money than he's worth, which leads to #2. He'll get more moeny than the Bengals will be willing to pay.And I'm not interested anyways Quote
turningpoint Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 He's a palymaker in the 2ndary IMO and he's only inhis 5th year. I remember watching rams games and he was laways making some big play.Imagine if Madieu goes down again, we could have bill and ted's excellent adventure paired up as our safites, that equals pure dominance. Quote
HoosierCat Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 A note (from "the one that got away" file) for those interested in how the early market for FA safeties is shaping up...Packers | Team likely to sign ManuelMon, 6 Mar 2006 21:47:59 -0800Bob McGinn, of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, reports the Green Bay Packers will likely sign free agent SS Marquand Manuel (Seahawks) when the free agency period begins March 9. Sources close to the situation say the Packers have targeted Manuel and that he will sign their offer just after the start of free agency. One source claims he has already agreed to a five-year contract worth close to $10 million with a signing bonus of $2 million. Quote
Stripes Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I think Archuleta would be a vast improvement for us, but as Boomer said, he's going to demand some big money.Big money + Bengals = Nope. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I think Archuleta would be a vast improvement for us, but as Boomer said, he's going to demand some big money.Big money + Bengals = Nope.Given the status of free agency, players are going to be more likely to sign short term low money deals based on the hope that next year will be uncapped and they will be paid for what they do this year next year.... Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Archuleta has a history of back problems that have greatly impacted how he plays. He's not that old, but he's no longer the stud many of you guys remember as a rookie. My understanding is he's far stiffer now, more vulnerable in pass coverage, and when playing close to the LOS less capable of dictating play. BTW, I laughed a little when I stumbled across a blurb on KFFL about the Redskins targeting Archuleta in free agency. Cap space be damned, watch 'em outbid other teams for this guy. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 Archuleta is still a dominant player. He did have a back injury, a concussion, and a few other minor injuries. All in all, he's never missed more than 3 games in any season, and he has always been very productive. I've seen no stiffness, and if he's getting 53 SOLO tackles in 14 games being stiff, he's head and shoulders above anything else we have. Quote
HairOnFire Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I've seen no stiffness, and if he's getting 53 SOLO tackles in 14 games being stiff, he's head and shoulders above anything else we have. Don't get me wrong Biggie, I'm interested in anyone who might be able to prop up Tory James. I'm just passing along a few concerns that weren't being discussed. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I've seen no stiffness, and if he's getting 53 SOLO tackles in 14 games being stiff, he's head and shoulders above anything else we have. Don't get me wrong Biggie, I'm interested in anyone who might be able to prop up Tory James. I'm just passing along a few concerns that weren't being discussed.Roger Roger. Gotcha. I don't think he'll be as expensive as thought either with the draft looking the way it is for safeties, and I STILL say we pick up a free agent and draft someone on day 1. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 AA sucks people....he is way over rated! He is no better than Ohalate IMO. SO I say no, and just draft a frigin safety, like my boy Ko Simpson Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 AA sucks people....he is way over rated! He is no better than Ohalate IMO. SO I say no, and just draft a frigin safety, like my boy Ko SimpsonOk, Archuleta is 5 BILLION times the SS OhellImonthefieldagain is. I still say we need to draft Ko or someone like him AND get a vet. Quote
Whur CHad At? Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 AA sucks people....he is way over rated! He is no better than Ohalate IMO. SO I say no, and just draft a frigin safety, like my boy Ko SimpsonOk, Archuleta is 5 BILLION times the SS OhellImonthefieldagain is. I still say we need to draft Ko or someone like him AND get a vet.Not 5 Billion, maybe just 1 Billion though. I saw in the paper the other day they are interested in Chad Williams from Baltimore. Can you say ugh Quote
Stripes Posted March 7, 2006 Report Posted March 7, 2006 I still say we need to draft Ko or someone like him AND get a vet. Agreed. This would likely mean that the veteran we go after will be more of a Herring caliber than an Archuleta. That'd be fine with me, for depth purposes. Madieu makes all the difference, we gotta hope he won't have any recurring injuries. Quote
UofLnMU Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 I have never been that interested in what Rams fans had to say about even their own players. That fairweather fan base didn't support the Cardinals (the football ones) and only showed interest in the team during the miraculous run to the Superbowl. These dorks have been trying to run Orlando Pace out of town on a rail. Run him over here, fellas.Archueleta is decent enough, IMO. Quote
walshfan Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 AA is probably the most well conditioned player in the NFL ...Injuries aside he could play another 5 years in the shape he's in and be productive... The money issue is the big thing... I agree that drafting Ko Simpson would be a more attractive way to shore up the secondary for years to come and Simpson seems to have more athleticism than AA or any other FA out there at that position...the free agent that makes sense to me ( at a reasonable price of course) is Ma'ake Kemoeatu.. 6'5 350lbs ... What a clogger he would be to build around and he's relatively young ..... Quote
Spain Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 They will not draft asafety that high. Marvin said they will sign a safety in fas. Who that will be I dont know. AA is the best out there. They will probably draft a corner high. Quote
walshfan Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 A corner that would be a great fit seems to be Jason Allen... fast and has healed from his injury.... I still like the athleticism and all around play of a Ko Simpson though..He'd be a good pickup in the secondary.... How about Donte Witner too? Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 I still say we need to draft Ko or someone like him AND get a vet. Agreed. This would likely mean that the veteran we go after will be more of a Herring caliber than an Archuleta. That'd be fine with me, for depth purposes. Madieu makes all the difference, we gotta hope he won't have any recurring injuries.Actually, I believe we need to prepare for Madieu to be injured again, or whoever we draft. Thus 2 safeties. KK can get the job done at FS for a short time just fine, but we have NOTHING at SS.Archuleta could be the answer. Quote
ArmyBengal Posted March 8, 2006 Report Posted March 8, 2006 Agree with getting a Safety in FA and one in the draft. I made the same comment not long ago and depth at the postion NEEDS to be addressed.WHODEY !!! Quote
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