ArmyBengal Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 We can only hope so for the CBA. Nice cap figures though !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 26, 2006 Report Share Posted February 26, 2006 Good news on both fronts. A $95 million cap would push the Bengals cap space up to around $20 million (gross), meaning that even after you "Hobsonize" the number for tenders and rookies and a cushion and whatever, the team still ought to have something on the order of $11-12 million to work with. That's plenty to rework some deals on the o-line and go after a top-line FA...and still leave something for the usual third-tier/waiver wire types.And if a CBA extension happens (which I continue to expect) look for that cap number to go even higher (probably somewhere on the order of $1-5 million). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Good news on both fronts. A $95 million cap would push the Bengals cap space up to around $20 million (gross), meaning that even after you "Hobsonize" the number for tenders and rookies and a cushion and whatever, the team still ought to have something on the order of $11-12 million to work with. That's plenty to rework some deals on the o-line and go after a top-line FA...and still leave something for the usual third-tier/waiver wire types.And if a CBA extension happens (which I continue to expect) look for that cap number to go even higher (probably somewhere on the order of $1-5 million).What I like to hear...The CBA extension seems like it is gonna happen! I think the NFL Players Union needs to fire Gene Upshaw...seems like he wanted them to not have an extension at all. Loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riagogogoindanati Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Speaking of capsHEY RIA CAN YOU TURN YOUR FREAKIN CAPS LOCK OFF WHEN YOU TYPETHANK YOUWHEN I POST I AM AT WORK. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.....WHAT I HAVE TO INPUT HERE INTO THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE IN CAPS. I TEND TO JOCKEY BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE INTERNET AND JOB RELATED DUTIES. SO IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE CAPS AND FEEL THAT THIS IS IMPROPER INTERNET ETIQUETTE, THEN YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT OR SKIP OVER MY POSTS AND DON'T READ THEM.THANK YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Speaking of capsHEY RIA CAN YOU TURN YOUR FREAKIN CAPS LOCK OFF WHEN YOU TYPETHANK YOUWHEN I POST I AM AT WORK. BELIEVE IT OR NOT.....WHAT I HAVE TO INPUT HERE INTO THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE IN CAPS. I TEND TO JOCKEY BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE INTERNET AND JOB RELATED DUTIES. SO IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE CAPS AND FEEL THAT THIS IS IMPROPER INTERNET ETIQUETTE, THEN YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT OR SKIP OVER MY POSTS AND DON'T READ THEM.THANK YOU Caps makes it hard to read I think is all he's saying. Oh yeah, there's a really cool button on your keyboard to the left, right under the "Tab" key called "Caps Lock". If you hit it, you won't have to type in caps on the forum and then if you hit it again, you can type in Caps for your job. Boy I thought I was a lazyass !!! Just playing bro, makes me no difference !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riagogogoindanati Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 WELL, MY KEYBOARD IS MISSING THAT FUNCTION...........SINCE EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ENTERED IN CAPS. I EVEN HAVE KEYS FOR INDIVIDUAL PUNCTUATION MARKS. LIKE THE QUESTION MARK KEY IS ALL BY ITSELF AND THE SLASH KEY IS ALL BY ITSELF. AND I DON'T HAVE A SHIFT KEY....BECAUSE I DON'T NEED IT. WHO REALLY GIVES A **** ANYWAY! YOU GUYS ARE CRACKING ME UP! (I DIDN'T HAVE TO PRESS [sHIFT] 1, BECAUSE THE EXCLAIMATION POINT IS ON A KEY ALL BY ITSELF.)AS FOR IT MAKING IT HARD TO READ.............LETTERS ARE LETTERS. YOU GUYS ARE BEGINNING TO SOUND A LITTLE SQUEALERISH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Cap Locks? Who cares. My only suggestion for GoGo concerns her choice of avatar. Assuming a boobie pic is out of the question (HINT) how about a pic of the Kill Bill 2 character named GoGo? Specifically, one showing GoGo bleeding from the eyes with a post nailed to her dead skull. If that's too violent for personal tastes, well...there's still that boobie pic option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riagogogoindanati Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Cap Locks? Who cares. My only suggestion for GoGo concerns her choice of avatar. Assuming a boobie pic is out of the question (HINT) how about a pic of the Kill Bill 2 character named GoGo? Specifically, one showing GoGo bleeding from the eyes with a post nailed to her dead skull. If that's too violent for personal tastes, well...there's still that boobie pic option. HOF...........YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND! TELL JJ TO START A SMACK THREAD REGARDING CAPS LOCK IF YOU MUST. HELL...........I'LL START ONE MYSELF. I THINK IF HE COULD HAVE READ MY PROFILE WE WOULD'VE NEVER GOTTEN OFF TOPIC ANYWAY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Update from PFT...POSTED 1:39 p.m. EST; LAST UPDATED 3:26 p.m. EST, February 27, 2006 CBA IS "DONE," BUT . . . . A league source tells us that a deal between the NFL and the NFL Players Association on an extension to the Collective Bargaining Agreement is "done," and that the only thing keeping the thing from being signed and sealed is the absence of a firm arrangement among owners regarding an expansion of revenue sharing. The only remaining problem is that the new CBA replaces "Defined Gross Revenues" (i.e., the stuff that has been shared by the 32 teams for years) with "Total Football Revenues" (i.e., every penny earned). And if every penny earned, including stuff that isn't currently shared, goes into the formula for determining the salary cap, the problem is that the low-earning teams will see their individual cap numbers influenced by the much bigger money being raked in by other teams. Stay tuned. It's looking more and more like it's only a matter of time before the owners work this thing out. As they should.Sounds like we're closing in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Update from PFT...POSTED 1:39 p.m. EST; LAST UPDATED 3:26 p.m. EST, February 27, 2006 CBA IS "DONE," BUT . . . . A league source tells us that a deal between the NFL and the NFL Players Association on an extension to the Collective Bargaining Agreement is "done," and that the only thing keeping the thing from being signed and sealed is the absence of a firm arrangement among owners regarding an expansion of revenue sharing. The only remaining problem is that the new CBA replaces "Defined Gross Revenues" (i.e., the stuff that has been shared by the 32 teams for years) with "Total Football Revenues" (i.e., every penny earned). And if every penny earned, including stuff that isn't currently shared, goes into the formula for determining the salary cap, the problem is that the low-earning teams will see their individual cap numbers influenced by the much bigger money being raked in by other teams. Stay tuned. It's looking more and more like it's only a matter of time before the owners work this thing out. As they should.Sounds like we're closing in...Yay! Come on Rich Boys lets get this crap over with so I don't need to keep worrying!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Another note from kffl...NFL | Kraft predicts CBA deal by WednesdayMon, 27 Feb 2006 21:07:58 -0800Updating previous reports, Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports New England Patriots vice president Jonathan Kraft expects a new collective bargaining agreement to be completed by Wednesday, March 1. Kraft said, "If I were betting, I would bet there would be a deal by Wednesday." League owners are scheduled for a conference call Tuesday, Feb. 28, to discuss the status of negotiations.I find that extremely encouraging since the Pats were supposedly among the 9 "big market" teams who didn't want to share more $$$ with the little guys. If Kraft thinks a deal is imminent the revenue sharing issue must be coming to a resolution. (Jerry Jones has been making similar kinds of positive comments in Dallas, BTW.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 If the big market revenues that aren't currently shared wind up shared, gotta think the higher cap wouldn't bug the owners of smaller market teams too much....unless the new revenues don't offset the increased cap costs, which I would find hard to believe.Nice touch by Upshaw to just flat out leave the combine last week to let everybody know "The NFLPA has left the building." Sounds like the whole impasse had nothing to do with the players or their representation. But they will no doubt benefit with higher salaries and bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 An articke from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette as well.http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06059/662299.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodikart Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Not good news...http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2348417 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Not good news...http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2348417 Hey Upshaw--> WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Not good news...http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2348417 Hey Upshaw--> WHODEY !!! What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Not good news...http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2348417 Hey Upshaw--> WHODEY !!! What he said. Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder and Bob McNair you all greedy !!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Then again, this new development is just an ESPN story, so we may be hearing the exact opposite by tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 How crazy is this? I'm kinda hoping no agreement is reached. The Bengals would be sitting pretty, and all of the teams that have played endless cap games would suddenly find the final bill had come due. That would lead to a massive number of cuts, but almost none by the Bengals. They could cherry pick. And again, the Bengals would gain a season of breathing room in regards to two of their most important potential free agents, Levi and Steinbach. Frankly, if no agreement is the worst case scenario...I can live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Not good news...http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2348417 Hey Upshaw--> WHODEY !!! What he said. Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder and Bob McNair you all greedy !!!!!!!!!!! The cart can't go before the horse. Until the owners agree on whether or not to even change the revenue system to begin with, the player's union and Gene Upshaw have next to nothing to do with the CBA process. Being 4 points apart ain't gonna collapse anything -- they'll just split the baby at that point given the number of zeroes involved in all of this. But it's got to get to that point first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 How crazy is this? I'm kinda hoping no agreement is reached. The Bengals would be sitting pretty, and all of the teams that have played endless cap games would suddenly find the final bill had come due. That would lead to a massive number of cuts, but almost none by the Bengals. They could cherry pick. And again, the Bengals would gain a season of breathing room in regards to two of their most important potential free agents, Levi and Steinbach. Frankly, if no agreement is the worst case scenario...I can live with it.Around the NFL, disbelief and even desperation (ESPN) ...“ People are going to be stunned -- not just by the quantity of players who are cut by Thursday, but by the quality, too. It's going to be ugly. There's going to be blood in the streets and, compared to past years, it's going to be from some bluebloods, guys who can still play. ” — An AFC team executiveHow drastic? There continue to be rumors the Washington Redskins, who extended numerous contracts in the past to deal with previous cap crunches, could have to play with 20 rookies on the roster in 2006. On Tuesday night in Atlanta, there were rumblings the Falcons, who aren't in nearly the dire straits some other franchises are, might be forced to release tailback Warrick Dunn, who rushed for a career best 1,416 yards in 2005. The Kansas City Chiefs could part ways with perennial Pro Bowl guard Will Shields if he doesn't agree to adjust his contract and reduce a $6.67 million cap charge. And that is just the start of the many examples of potential attrition cited by team officials Tuesday evening.As of Tuesday, there were a dozen teams in the league with more than $10 million apiece in 2006 salary cap room. It seems logical that those teams, which include four franchises with more than $20 million each in cap space, would benefit from the problems of cap-strapped clubs, especially if the free agent rolls are swelled Thursday with the anticipated cap casualties.The best case would be a short delay in reaching a new agreement coupled with free agency starting as scheduled.Let the teams that play games with the cap year after year finally pay the price for it and then reach a new agreement with true revenue-sharing to settle everything back down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Aye make em cut all those defensive stars then reach a agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 That whole cherry picking possibility certainly sounds great, and I suppose we'd be a team that those players would like to come to. Still, having no salary cap for any year just sounds very blech. I'd rather they come to an agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 While this "cherry picking" thing may sound decent for the Bengals in the very short term... what is bad for the NFL is bad for the Bengals... and this is very bad for the NFL. Upshaw wouldn't even answer the question about what the ramifications might be, because he knows this could really blow up the NFL as we know it.If this doesn't get resolved before next year... there will be no draft! That is not a good thing for any NFL team. The owners need to get this worked out together before a salary cap can be agreed upon that will satisfy the players. I love football too much to walk away from it, but I don't like watching the best league in the world in disarray. Maybe I'll be focusing more on the Buckeyes in the next few years... because the NFL could get real ugly real fast.Hey Joisey... do you know anything about this:But perhaps the biggest problem is that so-called "not likely to be earned incentives" (NLTBE) will count immediately against the cap. In normal circumstances, NLTBE incentives count on the following year's spending limit. So NLTBEs earned in 2005, for instance, count against a team's 2006 cap. But with an uncapped year looming in 2007, such incentives and bonuses that are triggered in 2006 would immediately applyhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor..._len&id=2348970If that happens... yes there will be a lot of cuts happening... but the Bengals may not be as far under the cap as we believe. We may not have much money to work with at all for free agency... of course, most teams probably won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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