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I don't think this is accurate. $28m is very much market. But you don't know structure and no one will until it hits the web. The market is very much in $28-33m range and that can be confirmed. AAV is paper reporting and no basis in reality and nobody in real talks is even remotely considering paying him more than J'mar Chase at $35m annually. AAV may say it but that's fluff. Trey knows his floor at $40m next 2 years. (current deal+tag). He supposedly has either got $56m-$62m on the table for 2 years and $85m for 3. Rumors and again nobody knows structure. Would you report at this time? No. Last chance for mega deal. No real reps at missed (he had a ton of off days last TC). Anyone that's smart would push this up to the edge to close the gap on year 3. An idiot would hold out IF those rumored offers are close to reality. The fact the no local media/pod caster has attempt to walk through logic just proves they will troll negative fans at any chance. Everyday he holds out they will tell you its going to destroy the season. He'll probably sign at the last second somewhere in the above range and that was probably reality once he didn't get traded in the first round of the draft.

Aging edge rushers are getting money in the $28-33m range over 2 and 3 seasons. All deals have included void or throw away years that pushed these up to a reported $40m AAV. Watt's deal is likely similar but would only have an impact if the 2 and 3 year raise the curve. But its been no secret to agents or playes he's been wanting/negotiating a new deal. So its probably already baked in negotiations.

1st is likely J'mar Chase is still the highest paid Non QB. He gets $138m over 4 and is likely to get all of it. He might not get 2029. Justin Jefferson is likely 2nd still as he will see all of $125m over 4. This remains why all the hot takes of the Bengals errors were simply trolling. There was no massive overpay due to Garrett deal. Willfully ignorant. Micah Parson is the only true threat to J'mar's standing. AAV is not reality. What has happend in the aging Edge Rusher market is the top players are really around $28-$33m of real money for 2/3 years. AAV serves a purpose for agents and media to promote transactions. Agents/Players aren't a clueless as we are at the time of the headline. Nah. Using AAV to judge is like "do you even bench bro?". Garrett makes $57m over next 2 years. ($28.5). Crosby $62m over next 2 ($31m) Both will see the money in year 3. Garrett $100m over 3. Crosby $93 over 3. Garrett might year 4 but that would push his actual average down. Crosby won't get year 4. In both deals void or throw away years pushed up the reported AAV with years added to manage cap hit. TJ Watt is probably similar. IF Trey has $28m on the table for 2 years. He'd be a fool to holdout into the season. Rumor's are there is 3 year $85m on the table but probably with incentives. He smartly will hold TC hostage to try to close that gap. He's working out in town already. I doubt he misses any significant time if any of the rumored offers are close to reality. But why would you report without pushing to close the gap with your true one last mega contract?

So where are all the cool pictures of the proposed renovated stadium?

KC doesn't suck. I think they disprove your point about guards. They paid guards instead of WR and Tackles. Their offense declined 75-85 yards and about 8-9 points a game since doing so. That's hard to argue against so I understand your tone. I think the Bengals roster talent are very close to KC overall. Just because the Bengals went a different direction at guard doesn't mean its wrong or whatever point you were trying to make. I don't really see the guard position as it stands today more concerning over tackle play and really think IF they get a healthy Higgins the offense production should increase no matter who they are lining up at guard.

OL- There's been enough grumbling from fans about Pollack its strange to see "give them a pass" mentioned. I would think a lot of people saw the issues constantly in adjusting to stunts etc. Firing coach and 2 starters is a weird pass. But I think the reason why guard is talked about so much because its avenue for those who want to piss and moan to allow them to do just that. The real issue, IMO. Is the pass protection metrics from your tackles. Healthly first. Second, both spots need to clearly separate themselves further from level Jonah Williams played on the Left and Right sides. Gives you freedom to slide protect with hopefully better stunt pick up then would think the opposing team's success rate in rushing 4 would drop.

Avoid being historically bad in the 4th quarter IS NOT the same thing as "all they have to be is middle of the pack". Not even close. A point overlooked completely. Pick any defensive coordinator. Anyone. To earn a playoff spot in 2023 and/or 2024 ALL they would have had to do is get the same group of players to play the same bad defense in the 4th quarter as they did in the first 3 quarters. The decline was that significant. Bad coaching and young players. To win a Superbowl in the next 3 seasons? Yeah, a segment of these defensive draft picks will have to be more than average. Were they ever going to get that with a coordinator that couldn't stop a rookie QB from scoring a TD on every drive? Doubtful.

Can't play football without them kinda important. Don't see them drafted too often in the top of the first kinda important.

Bengals have missed playoffs past 2 seasons by slim margins in the standings while suffering multiple 1 score defeats. The defense is enemy number 1. Talent? Obviously. But there was a sharp decline in defense played in the 4th quarter than how they performed in quarter 1 through 3. That's coaching. I don't think its a stretch to say you could take any historically bad defense change a couple calls and prevent a rookie QB from scoring a TD on all drives they didn't kneel down. There's several other examples such as a bad Steeler offense the past 2 seasons having 2 400 yard games and 1 500 yard game.

KC paid guards over Tackles and Wide Outs. KC guards and Centers are considered to be among the best. The KC offense has lost production of about 75-85 yards a game and scores about 8-9 points less per game since the days of having players like Hill and OBJ. Also the QB throws less than Burrow still gets hit more, pressured more, has to throw the ball away more. In all seasons of Netflix QB each of the participating QB have segments highlighting injuries. Infamously Mahomes ankle injury before 2022 AFC Championship game. There's probably a fan on this board a couple years ago suggesting KC might take some steps back on offense because they put too much into interior line. Maybe. KC gets the benefit of the whistle with tackles lining up in backfield, holding, and early starts more than most teams. The trolling comes into play because its a self fulfilling prophecy for negative fans. If the Bengals had a "name" guard. Then they'd move on to another spot. So on and so on. Some fans are willfully ignorant and slaves to their POV.

Shemar and his representation started off stupid and its just a question of how long they remain there. 1. He could have and should been on the field in mini camp. Him practicing would not have prevented any negotiating. 2. Now if the reporting is true. 20 teams use the clause. Its new to the Bengals. The clause doesn't change the over all value of the contract. Now its mental midgets and lawyer wannabees splicing hairs of "Well its new to the Bengals" or "Well he isn't getting the same structure". The last report with from Rapport seemed like he was dumb founded by the Shemar camp's stance because there is very little to be gained. As people continue to dig in and find more truth about the situation the worse off he'll be from a perception standpoint. Because at the end of the the day the Bengals aren't the ones being unreasonable in this situation.

We know.

Shemar's team loves drama and not too smart. Sure. 1. Fight NCAA. Incur legal fees and hope for a quick resolution in time for the college season. If you believe that is viable...point 2. 2. Fight United States labor laws. Because the NFLPA CBA says his rights remain to Bengals if he plays college football or any other league. More legal fees and still need a fast resolution in time for college or CFL season. If you believe points 1 and 2 are still viable or need another "yeah but'... 3. He sits out. Doesn't play and reenters the draft. That will show the Brown family! So if you believe any portion of 1,2 or 3 is viable then point 4: 4. Over half the league uses the clause on their current first round picks. But maybe your sitting here thinking its only half the league and with his NIL money that hasn't been spent on legal fees from 1 and 2 he still could come out ahead or slightly damaged its worth the fight vs. the evil Brown family well then point 5: 5. Clause doesn't change his money. It only changes the timing and form of payment. So say he agrees to all clauses and negotiates a favor payment schedule. Violate a clause he doesn't lose money at that point. It converts to salary which he earns. OH YEAH! THAT's the whole point he could get screwed by the fucking Brown family.... So at this point if you think points 1,2,3, and 4 could favor hims and its worth avoiding the Brown family scheme in point 5 just so they can cut him without cause OK point 6: 6. IF the Bengals unjustly cut Shemar before his rookie deal because he violated a clause. If he's under 3 years vested he hits wavier wire so any claiming team picks up remaining contract. If he's over 3 years he hits FA free to get paid. So if your still sitting here thinking that Shemar has any power left or this fucking contract drama would still be worth it point 7: 7. I can't recall the Bengals ever cutting a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick during their rookie deal that ultimately wasn't universally agreed upon by the fan base. Meaning you must suck and even still I don't recall them cutting to many. But if your still beating this drum and its not the reality that matters its the principal that Brown family can't keep doing this then point 8: 8. You'll always be trolled by bad reporting. It has hit the fucking stupid stage. It 100% a dumb agent team.

This is a tiny town, boy. We don't like your kind around here. lol.

It was reported the clause in question is actually used across the NFL. It was also shown rookies without contracts practiced in voluntary and mandatory camps. Shemar's camp could have had him practice and negotiated the clause. There's was only 1 stupid action and it was on the part of Shemar's camp. Sorry if reality is such a burden to your point of view. Seeing all the blatant wrong hot takes all off season you'd think some fans would learn. You are not getting objective viewpoints You are getting agent propaganda most of the time spun into something they know that plays with a lot of the fan base for clicks etc. Edit: It has also been pointed out none of these clauses change the earning potential of the player. It just voids the guarantee nature of the payment. It was dumb to hold the player out over this. A fan that took sides with his camp was lied too initially. Period. Believe what you want.