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Enjoy NFL football how you like. Its like your mad because 100% of NFL fans don't all cry on a message board.

Did this guy come up the idea the NFL is just trying to sell us food? Bitching about the sales tax? Sure. What about the increased sales tax revenue the events provide? OMG, Bengals make money and lots of it. Cry, Cry, Cry.

If Bengals aren't firing Zac. Get the fear they are going to Marvin Lewis this for the slim window of the Burrow era. They should at least considered real competition at the QB spot. At worse they need a better back up. The QB group as a whole is rated slightly better than Rookie Andy Dalton. It would be worse if not for Joe Flacco that produced the biggest games this season on the fly. Those metrics aren't 100% proof of anything regarding Joe but it does suggest there can be life after him. The ole Brady/Garoppolo card should be played here, IMO, if they aren't changing head coaches.

Bengals offense ranks highly in money paid and turnovers. The turnovers have now existed for 2 seasons and the amount of points scored off those turnovers happens so frequently that it can't be washed away as a Jake Browning issue. Team's rise and fall in the NFL all the time. There's a bunch of scenario's fans can paint up in their minds to "fix". The offense has a bunch of dead money tied into it so its likely they'll be among the highest paid offenses in the league next year. The most realistic return to playoffs starts with an offense that doesn't turn the ball over so much. Gets its franchise QB playing at high level again for the entire season. Fans act like they've been scoring 30+ every week this year or something. They've been shit from game 1 and its the number 1 reason to fire Zac.

Burrow is down and those shows love to kick when players are down. Point being Burrow IS DOWN. The Bengals offense collective QB rating is shit. Their overall production is shit compared to how much cap room was dumped into them. The amount of turnovers from that offense is shit. What's to argue? Burrow isn't elite this year. Its the number one reason to fire Zac Taylor. So I don't really see what there is to disagree with.

No one wants to read nerd shit about 1st round DE that doesn't have double digit sacks on the league worse defense. However, there are in depth nerd analysis on both Ossasi and Murphy and it was complimentary of them both. Basically Bengals don't ask all rushers to win every snap. They have various assignments and what not. When Murphy was been asked to win on his rushes he's performed very well. Usually Trey was the one getting the "win" reps. Again, no one wants to hear that shit with a defense still allowing over 400 yards a game. But there's nerd analysis out there suggesting the defense has been responding at all levels. Murphy was damn close to having 3 sacks, he played very well. As did Knight who was serving as a spy for a lot of reps vs Lamar.

Not when the highly paid offensive players can't score or rank in the top 5 in give aways. I think there is a couple paragraphs above you should read.

I wonder what reflective press conference we'll be treated to this week?

Is Joe Borrow allowed to score points?

I'm just saying spending in the top half the league and most of that money going to active roster isn't an example of a team that refuses to operate financially. You may think it does, but whatever. 2nd - Milton Williams was the No. 1 defensive FA available - IR 3.5 sacks to date. 2nd was Zac Baun who later confirmed he wasn't seriously thinking of leaving Philly. 3rd was Josh Sweat, has 11 sacks but Cardinals defense isn't any better. 4th, 5th, and 6th were CBs (Ward, Reed, Davis) Davis has been really good. The other 2 up and down. The point? Adding all those players would have gotten them a defense good enough to overcome the under performance of the offense. IF the Bengals just sign Trey and don't sign All top 6 defensive Free Agents they aren't trying? Is that your point? Because not 1 of those players makes a big enough impact alone.

Sorry. I don't know the intent of Joe's comments. I do take issue with fans/local media supporting a narrative that Joe is justified in whining. 1. This week we learned Trey and Tee both put health issues aside for the team. 2. The organization is top half in spending most of it on extensions for offensive talent that everyone demanded. 3. The offense added a 1st round TE and 2nd round guard late summer. Again Right Guard people demanded be fixed! 4. The offense got a first round OT over the draft's best CB. That is a move people demanded. The unit is built with the intention to be the unit that shoulders the burden of winning. They rank 20th. They give the ball away 3rd worse in the league. Until those 2 issues are resolved all they are doing is finger pointing away from their under performance. That's all it is. Again, I don't know the intent of Joe's comments but its a horrible look. He gets a free pass from a lot of people, IMO with protection issues/injuries/durability and turnovers. If he's crying, none of it is justified.

Joe is a great QB. Its a bad look whether he intended it to be or not. Higgins and Trey both showed they put their health before the team and Joe being reflective on having fun and it just so happens after they lose a must win game and he threw 2 picks leading in the 4th quarter. Whatever Joe. Move the fuck on already if that's how you feel. The majority will take your side and deflect blame. I don't think he's a quitter like that and I don't he is justified IF he does try to force his way out. I thought both Ints were great plays by Buffalo by the way. But everything has been set up for you to win those games and you didn't THIS TIME, so SFTU and move on. He wasn't reflective when people gave him all the credit in beating Baltimore.

Along the same lines: Sacks generated from player taken 20th or lower from Draft 2022-2025. There's been 6 players(?) that have recorded more than 10 career sacks so far. Ones I could find: Off the top of my head they never had a chance to draft the first 2. Are you giving up DJ Turner in order to draft Kobi Turner or Byron Young? Bengal fans are great about bitching about scouting and making vague claims. Here is an attempt to bring data into the conversation. Where are all the defensive draft picks a huge scouting department would have found?

Bengals have been building a defense drafting from the bottom of the draft since 2022. Pending on how you classify Pro Bowl honors (alternate etc.) or All Pro honors. There's 2 to 6 players you can identify that have been selected. I can tell you they never had a chance to draft Trent McDuffie as the KC used Tyrek Hill trade to move up. They chose Mims over Mitchell. So again simply stating "fix it" isn't really anything but message board banter. Emotion. Bengals kept their WRs and made an attempt to fix an O-line. That has resulted in 20th ranked offense and a negative TO margin. Bengal fans know our defensive draft picks have struggled. FACT. So they need to fix it by drafting other defensive players. Not so easy.

If you want to go with they refuse to compete financially when any objective measure proves they actually have been spending in the top half of the league, that's on you refusing to change your POV when facts are presented. Believe what you want.