GapControl Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Once again the Reds display their brilliance for baseball strategy. Let`s sum it up. You are the Reds owner. The Reds suck as usual. You know it is because you refuse to pay your own money for pitching and keep the Reds payroll in the cellar. So, your 4th, 5th, and swing starting pitchers are below average and your bullpen is a bunch of retread, has-beens, never-will-bes. The last real bullpen talent was Danny Graves and he is the reason the former owners could never buy starting pitching. But, the best way to make it all better is to fire the manager. This is the same logic you, the owner, used when you took your dog to the vet for worm treatments and chose to have him neutered instead.It`s a cycle folks. It`s cyclical and I`m cynical. Cynical of Dave Miley, Bob Boone, Tony Perez, and the host of other fall guys for the group of Cincinnati businessmen who refuse to gamble with this team. The owners know that because of the 1970`s a certain percentage of older fans will show up and pay for Reds baseball. Add in the pristine "by tax-payer paidfor" ballpark and you hook another nice percentage of younger aged fans. Firing Narron diverts attention from the real reason the Reds aren`t contenders. That`s the culmination of Reds brass strategical expertise in baseball, the best way to make a profit and keep the dieharders connected through diversion. Wouldn`t it be nice for some ownership group to come into the Reds, boost the club with their money and vow to increase the small-market of the Reds? Wouldn`t winning a few division titles consecutively get all of the bandwagon and fairweather baseball fans in Indiana, Northern Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Virginia to become Reds supporters? Suddenly, taking road trip vacations to the brandnew ballpark in the `Nati and buying lots of Reds merchandise would become common place.Man, that would be some real, modernday baseball strategy, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Now that Narron is gone and Mackanin is the new manager, the Reds will storm to the top of the standings... NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Call it what you will, but this was coming. No other team does so poorly and continues to employ the current manager. Like it or not, they are the fall guy. I don't like the direction the team is heading in and would love nothing more than to see a contender on the field, but it is what it is and Narron is gone. I never liked him as a manager to begin with. I always saw him as garbage, so I don't see much problem with this. Now the replacement ?? I have no idea, maybe no better. Want to see something special, hire a manager worth a sh*t AND put some money in this team. THAT would be something to see !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Narron always seemed subpar to me as well... I'm not sure why the new Reds management had so much faith in him after he took over for Dave Miley in a very similar situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 This doesn't bother me , but the man can't turn chicken s**t into chicken salad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalChamps Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Its not all Narron's fault but he deserves plenty of blame. How can you not have fielding practice before games? His handling of pitchers is very questionable.This cant be the only change. We need a catcher bad! We need a bullpen. We need a better defense. Mostly though ....WE NEED PLAYERS WHO CARE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agreen_112 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Once again the Reds display their brilliance for baseball strategy. Let`s sum it up. You are the Reds owner. The Reds suck as usual. You know it is because you refuse to pay your own money for pitching and keep the Reds payroll in the cellar. So, your 4th, 5th, and swing starting pitchers are below average and your bullpen is a bunch of retread, has-beens, never-will-bes. The last real bullpen talent was Danny Graves and he is the reason the former owners could never buy starting pitching. But, the best way to make it all better is to fire the manager. This is the same logic you, the owner, used when you took your dog to the vet for worm treatments and chose to have him neutered instead.It`s a cycle folks. It`s cyclical and I`m cynical. Cynical of Dave Miley, Bob Boone, Tony Perez, and the host of other fall guys for the group of Cincinnati businessmen who refuse to gamble with this team. The owners know that because of the 1970`s a certain percentage of older fans will show up and pay for Reds baseball. Add in the pristine "by tax-payer paidfor" ballpark and you hook another nice percentage of younger aged fans. Firing Narron diverts attention from the real reason the Reds aren`t contenders. That`s the culmination of Reds brass strategical expertise in baseball, the best way to make a profit and keep the dieharders connected through diversion. Wouldn`t it be nice for some ownership group to come into the Reds, boost the club with their money and vow to increase the small-market of the Reds? Wouldn`t winning a few division titles consecutively get all of the bandwagon and fairweather baseball fans in Indiana, Northern Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Virginia to become Reds supporters? Suddenly, taking road trip vacations to the brandnew ballpark in the `Nati and buying lots of Reds merchandise would become common place.Man, that would be some real, modernday baseball strategy, huh?Where's Danny Graves now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 The last real bullpen talent we had (though I do like Todd Coffey) was Ryan Wagner. I wish we hadn't dumped Todd Jones too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
711chad Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 narron out is a good move we have a base that needs to be built apon we have more talent than ppl give us credit for...if this team got some work we could be a playoff team but with narron were a last place team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 narron out is a good move we have a base that needs to be built apon we have more talent than ppl give us credit for...if this team got some work we could be a playoff team but with narron were a last place teamI heard the same type of things said when Miley was shown the door. All the blame should fall at the feet of the GM and the owners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyBengal Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Lets face it people, regardless of who the manager is for the remainder of the year, THE REDS JUST SUCK !!!Here's to hoping Griffey keeps hitting dingers !!!WHODEY !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Here's to hoping Griffey keeps hitting dingers !!!Wouldn't it be great to see about five or so years from now an older (not to mention much CLEANER) Junior in the position that Barry Bonds is in now? The baseball world would be ecstatic, and so would I!! Keep hitting homers Griffey!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Once again the Reds display their brilliance for baseball strategy. Let`s sum it up. You are the Reds owner. The Reds suck as usual. You know it is because you refuse to pay your own money for pitching and keep the Reds payroll in the cellar. So, your 4th, 5th, and swing starting pitchers are below average and your bullpen is a bunch of retread, has-beens, never-will-bes. The last real bullpen talent was Danny Graves and he is the reason the former owners could never buy starting pitching. But, the best way to make it all better is to fire the manager. This is the same logic you, the owner, used when you took your dog to the vet for worm treatments and chose to have him neutered instead.It`s a cycle folks. It`s cyclical and I`m cynical. Cynical of Dave Miley, Bob Boone, Tony Perez, and the host of other fall guys for the group of Cincinnati businessmen who refuse to gamble with this team. The owners know that because of the 1970`s a certain percentage of older fans will show up and pay for Reds baseball. Add in the pristine "by tax-payer paidfor" ballpark and you hook another nice percentage of younger aged fans. Firing Narron diverts attention from the real reason the Reds aren`t contenders. That`s the culmination of Reds brass strategical expertise in baseball, the best way to make a profit and keep the dieharders connected through diversion. Wouldn`t it be nice for some ownership group to come into the Reds, boost the club with their money and vow to increase the small-market of the Reds? Wouldn`t winning a few division titles consecutively get all of the bandwagon and fairweather baseball fans in Indiana, Northern Ohio, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Virginia to become Reds supporters? Suddenly, taking road trip vacations to the brandnew ballpark in the `Nati and buying lots of Reds merchandise would become common place.Man, that would be some real, modernday baseball strategy, huh?Where's Danny Graves now?I figure the injury he had finished him off. I think he had signed a minor league deal with Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted July 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 The last real bullpen talent we had (though I do like Todd Coffey) was Ryan Wagner. I wish we hadn't dumped Todd Jones too.But I think with the Reds Wagner struggled quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 Here's to hoping Griffey keeps hitting dingers !!!Wouldn't it be great to see about five or so years from now an older (not to mention much CLEANER) Junior in the position that Barry Bonds is in now? The baseball world would be ecstatic, and so would I!! Keep hitting homers Griffey!!BTW...it just might be "do-able": 1. H Aaron 755 2. B Bonds* 750 3. B Ruth 714 4. W Mays 660 5. S Sosa* 602 6. F Robinson 586 7. K Griffey* 585 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 The last real bullpen talent we had (though I do like Todd Coffey) was Ryan Wagner. I wish we hadn't dumped Todd Jones too.But I think with the Reds Wagner struggled quite a bit.No doubt. I thought he flashed a lot of potential though, and can't help but assume the Reds effed him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 3, 2007 Report Share Posted July 3, 2007 It seems the Reds aren't done handing out pink slips. They just handed bench coach Bucky Dent his walking papers today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
711chad Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 but if we got a good manager like giradi or someone with some name recognition mayb he'd it wouldnt be the sam sad story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 It seems the Reds aren't done handing out pink slips. They just handed bench coach Bucky Dent his walking papers today!billy, i am having a lot of trouble reading your posts. if you have any other pictures of her can you PM me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 It seems the Reds aren't done handing out pink slips. They just handed bench coach Bucky Dent his walking papers today!billy, i am having a lot of trouble reading your posts. if you have any other pictures of her can you PM me? Sorry bro, but the truth is don't even know her name. If I come across any info/pics, I'll PM them to you. Cool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GapControl Posted July 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 It seems the Reds aren't done handing out pink slips. They just handed bench coach Bucky Dent his walking papers today!billy, i am having a lot of trouble reading your posts. if you have any other pictures of her can you PM me? Sorry bro, but the truth is don't even know her name. If I come across any info/pics, I'll PM them to you. Cool?thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted July 4, 2007 Report Share Posted July 4, 2007 It seems the Reds aren't done handing out pink slips. They just handed bench coach Bucky Dent his walking papers today!billy, i am having a lot of trouble reading your posts. if you have any other pictures of her can you PM me? Sorry bro, but the truth is don't even know her name. If I come across any info/pics, I'll PM them to you. Cool?thanks!No problemo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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