oldschooler Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Carson said he will be back and ready to roll for training camp. He says he won't miss anything. Quote
skyline Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I sure hope he's right, and that this isn't just an attempt at positive thinking on his part. Quote
oldschooler Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Posted January 9, 2006 I think he`s done...Here is the link though...http://www.1360homer.com/pages/streaming.html Quote
LB51 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I think he`s done...Here is the link though...http://www.1360homer.com/pages/streaming.htmlHey Doc, did u check out his knee? Why would you think that?????? Quote
skyline Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I think he`s done...Here is the link though...http://www.1360homer.com/pages/streaming.htmlHey Doc, did u check out his knee? Why would you think that?????? I think he meant that he thinks the conference is done. Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I think he`s done...Here is the link though...http://www.1360homer.com/pages/streaming.htmlHey Doc, did u check out his knee? Why would you think that?????? He meant that Carson was done talking, not that he was done playing. Quote
oldschooler Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Posted January 9, 2006 I think he`s done...Here is the link though...http://www.1360homer.com/pages/streaming.htmlHey Doc, did u check out his knee? Why would you think that?????? Did you totally skip the first post to this thread or what ?Apparently so nurse...Marvins press conference is on at noon and he will discuss the official details of Carson's injury.Same link http://www.1360homer.com/pages/streaming.html Quote
LB51 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I think he`s done...Here is the link though...http://www.1360homer.com/pages/streaming.htmlHey Doc, did u check out his knee? Why would you think that?????? Did you totally skip the first post to this thread or what ?Apparently so nurse... oopps! Sorry bout that. I misunderstood what your were saying. I'm a little edgey today. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Don't feel bad, I was about to go off on Oldschooler too, but I figured he was being sarcastic. Quote
derekshank Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I just can't see him being ready for training camp. Even if he thinks he's ready, I'll be surprised if the medical staff and Marvin Lewis will be willing to let him take any type of risk whatsoever.He might see some side action... kind of like Warrick did all this past training camp. I wouldn't expect to see him in any meaningless games in the pre-season... and if he's ready for the first game it will be nothing short of incredible.What you have to understand is that until that knee is back to normal (usually takes at least 12 months to get back to 100%) it will be easier to re-injure. As much as we all want to see him on the field, I have no desire to see him hurt his knee again... and maybe tear a PCL too. No one wants to lose the season next year... but Kitna will keep us in games. If he can simply hold down the job for a short while while Palmer gets healthy, we won't have to be talking about the great star Palmer could have been. Quote
LB51 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I just can't see him being ready for training camp. Even if he thinks he's ready, I'll be surprised if the medical staff and Marvin Lewis will be willing to let him take any type of risk whatsoever.He might see some side action... kind of like Warrick did all this past training camp. I wouldn't expect to see him in any meaningless games in the pre-season... and if he's ready for the first game it will be nothing short of incredible.What you have to understand is that until that knee is back to normal (usually takes at least 12 months to get back to 100%) it will be easier to re-injure. As much as we all want to see him on the field, I have no desire to see him hurt his knee again... and maybe tear a PCL too. No one wants to lose the season next year... but Kitna will keep us in games. If he can simply hold down the job for a short while while Palmer gets healthy, we won't have to be talking about the great star Palmer could have been.Its way too early for anyone to know how long he'll be out, even the docs. The surgery will repair the damage, but then its up to Carson. Hard work and mental toughness will be the key to bouncing back. The harder he works, the sooner he'll be back. Quote
derekshank Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I just can't see him being ready for training camp. Even if he thinks he's ready, I'll be surprised if the medical staff and Marvin Lewis will be willing to let him take any type of risk whatsoever.He might see some side action... kind of like Warrick did all this past training camp. I wouldn't expect to see him in any meaningless games in the pre-season... and if he's ready for the first game it will be nothing short of incredible.What you have to understand is that until that knee is back to normal (usually takes at least 12 months to get back to 100%) it will be easier to re-injure. As much as we all want to see him on the field, I have no desire to see him hurt his knee again... and maybe tear a PCL too. No one wants to lose the season next year... but Kitna will keep us in games. If he can simply hold down the job for a short while while Palmer gets healthy, we won't have to be talking about the great star Palmer could have been.Its way too early for anyone to know how long he'll be out, even the docs. The surgery will repair the damage, but then its up to Carson. Hard work and mental toughness will be the key to bouncing back. The harder he works, the sooner he'll be back.Having dealt with an ACL injury, I'll tell you from experience that no matter how much mental toughness you have (which it is sure that Carson has more than I do) there is still that pesky physical side. No matter how hard he works, and how he wills himself back, there is no way to speed up the physical healing aspect.You can speed up the recovery time a bit... by strengthening the knee with all the exercises you have to do... but it just won't physically be ready in 7 months. No way. Quote
momof2 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I had my ACL replaced 6 months ago and I'm fine now and that's with my crappy HMO. Imagine if I were a star franchise athlete with an entire professional training staff at my disposal. I say he rehabs and gets to watch while his mediocre defense gets a major overhaul by bringing in some key defensive FAs and fresh blood draft picks. Maybe even an all-around TE. Quote
walzav29 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 The question is who the Bengals play early on. If it's the Raiders, Saints, Browns, and Ravens than let Kitna go. If it's the tougher teams we'll need Palmer. As we all seen this year, them head-to-head tie breakers are tough. I'll believe Palmer though. I'm sure he'll do everything he can to get back after signing that contract. All I want to hear this off-season is 2 things.1. Palmer is healing fast2. Good Defensive News! Quote
walshfan Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I just can't see him being ready for training camp. Even if he thinks he's ready, I'll be surprised if the medical staff and Marvin Lewis will be willing to let him take any type of risk whatsoever.He might see some side action... kind of like Warrick did all this past training camp. I wouldn't expect to see him in any meaningless games in the pre-season... and if he's ready for the first game it will be nothing short of incredible.What you have to understand is that until that knee is back to normal (usually takes at least 12 months to get back to 100%) it will be easier to re-injure. As much as we all want to see him on the field, I have no desire to see him hurt his knee again... and maybe tear a PCL too. No one wants to lose the season next year... but Kitna will keep us in games. If he can simply hold down the job for a short while while Palmer gets healthy, we won't have to be talking about the great star Palmer could have been.Its way too early for anyone to know how long he'll be out, even the docs. The surgery will repair the damage, but then its up to Carson. Hard work and mental toughness will be the key to bouncing back. The harder he works, the sooner he'll be back.this is the first correct assesment of the whole situation Ive read..He's going to be back in 5 mos 8 mos a year... noone knows yet, not even Palmer or the doctors.hard work and I imagine Palmer will do just that Quote
oldschooler Posted January 9, 2006 Author Report Posted January 9, 2006 Marvin just started his press conference.He said we`ll tell you details once he has his surgeryand how long it will take to recover.He said that Chris Henry will not require surgery andit will take about 6-8 weeks for him to rehab.Palmer: I'll be Opening Day QB By GEOFF HOBSONJanuary 9, 200611:40 a.m About 16 hours after suffering his devastating knee injury, Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer vowed he would be ready on the first day of training camp and would be the club's Opening Day quarterback. Wearing a Syracuse pullover sweat shirt and blue gym shoes, Palmer stiffly made it to the news conference podium with crutches. He said he didn't think the play was an intentional dirty hit by Steelers defensive end Kimo von Oelhoffen. He admitted that parts of Sunday pased "like hours and some of it passed like it was a few minutes." He also said his No. 1 concern this offseason is getitng backup Jon Kitna signed, but he said he realizes Kitna would like to explore other opportunities. The full video conference wil soon be available. http://www.bengals.com/ Quote
walshfan Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 One thing about Palmer is that I dont think anyone will work any harder than him to rehab... He's a highly motibvated individual.. I think Kitna will give him all the moral support he'll need during this time... Quote
PhunkE1 Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 You are all just assuming Kitna is going to resign. This is probably his last opportunity to start in the NFL. That may be to appealing to pass up. Quote
walshfan Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 You are all just assuming Kitna is going to resign. This is probably his last opportunity to start in the NFL. That may be to appealing to pass up.Your assuming that an NFL would be interested in him as a starter for the upcoming season..Im not so sure many teams would jump on an aging weakarmed QB... Quote
derekshank Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 You are all just assuming Kitna is going to resign. This is probably his last opportunity to start in the NFL. That may be to appealing to pass up.Your assuming that an NFL would be interested in him as a starter for the upcoming season..Im not so sure many teams would jump on an aging weakarmed QB...Not for the long haul... but teams like Miami that believe they are almost there will certainly be willing to give him a shot. He's certainly better than Gus Frerote... ask any Bengals fan. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 You are all just assuming Kitna is going to resign. This is probably his last opportunity to start in the NFL. That may be to appealing to pass up.Indeed, I am assuming that Jon Kitna is a man of his word who will hold to his desire to stay in Cincinnati rather than hop ship for a couple years starting elsewhere. I am assuming he isn't lying when he says his family and his faith are more important to him than being a starting QB in the NFL. I am assuming he will stick with his FRIEND Carson Palmer even if he isn't playing in the NFL next season, providing him with moral support. Kitna will no more leave Carson Palmer to recover on his own than Gayle Sayers would have left Brian Piccolo. I am assuming moreso that Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis will reward Jon Kitna's loyalty with a contract that makes it worth his while to stay here in Cincinnati for another year. What you are assuming, on the other hand, is that Jon Kitna has lied to us about wanting to live in Cincinnati and retire here. You are assuming he will jump ship when he can rather than be a friend and a teamate.Hrmn... I think my assumptions are more like the man than yours. Quote
walshfan Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Miami will more than likely draft a QB ( Jacobs or Cutler) and until one of the two is ready Gus will be at the helm.. They were 9-7 with him..As for who's the better of the two... Which turd stinks more? Quote
HoosierCat Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I really don't see much in the way of opportunities for Kit to start elsewhere. Oh, there is no shortage of teams with QB issues, but once you start looking you find most either have some young guy waiting in the wings or just getting started (like Frye up in Cleveland or whatshisface in GB); injury problems at the position (the Jets, for instance); or equally good or better options aready on hand (would Kit be an improvement over Holcomb in Buffalo or Johnson in Minny? I don't think so.)Let him look. He'll find his best place is right where he is. Quote
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 I had my ACL replaced 6 months ago and I'm fine now and that's with my crappy HMO. Imagine if I were a star franchise athlete with an entire professional training staff at my disposal. I say he rehabs and gets to watch while his mediocre defense gets a major overhaul by bringing in some key defensive FAs and fresh blood draft picks. Maybe even an all-around TE.Yeah, but - no offense - what level of "fine" are you? Walking? Jogging? Sprinting? Playing football?I realize he's not a running back, but if we bring him back too soon with Marino-style mobility he could get killed. Quote
TecmoFever Posted January 9, 2006 Report Posted January 9, 2006 Two points: First, I had a kid on the basketball team that I coach who was back and playing basketball pretty well in 7 months after ACL, MCL, and minuscis injuries. Granted, we're talking about a 16-year old who may heal at a different rate than a 25-year old, but after checking with him today to ensure that my dates were right, I was a bit more encouraged about Palmer's chances.Second, the assessments on Jonny Boy Kitna are right on. I think his time has come and gone for a chance at starting in the NFL. He could go the Jeff Garcia route and have a chance to compete, but I can't think of one team that he would start for. Miami was the best proposition that I've heard, but Frerotte already knows the system and did guide the Fins to a 9-7 record. I think Kitna will be back, especially considering Carson's situation. Quote
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