Whur CHad At? Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Who do you think the first pick will be and who do you think the Bengals will take first round?1. Houston selects-QB Vince Young(If he comes out)I have been a Anti-Bush guy for a long time, and I am not just talking about our President. Reggie Bush WILL be a bust. That is why I dont think he will go #1. Yes Bush may have had an outstanding season, but look at his opposition! I could of done what he had done. He reminds me of Peter Warrick at FSU. Great Receiver, Outstanding Special teams player, and fun to watch, but not a good NFL player. I think VInce Young proved last night why he should of won the Heisman, and why he should be #1. He may not have good mechanics...but he has the highest completion percentage out of any quarterback which is very impressive. Now I dont know if Houston will trade or not given they already have David Carr, but I could see them rebuilding.26. Cincinnati selects-Safety Darnell BingLets face our safeties suck the big one(except for Madieu of course). With Madeiu and Bing in the deep backfield, it will improve dramatically. They will be dangerous and can shut down the run. Bing will be our Ed Reed. Not huge, but he is a badass safety with a desire to punish the other team. With him in and Madieu, they become our Double Duo, or our Michael Lewis and Brian Dawkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Reginald Bush would be my pick. Too bad he'd be playing behind such a crappy line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb10588 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Reggie Bush = Unstoppable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Reggis Bush=Stoppable....ask the Texas Defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Antonio Bengal Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Reggie Bush = unstoppable if and only if he breaks containment.Vince Young shouldn't be the top overall pick. He is a great COLLEGE player, but the NFL is a different beast, just as Michael Vick.As for the Bengals, I just want to see a good safety at that pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Vince Young=Great college player that won't pan out in the NFL. You watch his highlights and you can definately tell that he won't last in the big leagues. He's not accurate w/ deep throws, never completes a pass w/ pressure in his face,whenever pressure comes he automatically runs. He usually don't even get touched on the majority of his runs, that will change w/ NFL players. He's good at short passes but he don't have great arm strength.Reggie Bush=A better Cadillac Williams. Great instincts, powerful(never falls backwards, always forward), can cut while running full speed(not normal), catches as well as a WR, he is a freak of nature. With the right system, he'll be one of the most dominant players in the league(in three of four years)He needs to be used like Faulk was used back in the Rams hay day.Lindell White=He'll be the most productive rookie, he'll be able to blend in w/ any NFL team. Big, powerful,w/ a great burst of speed when he hits the hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 1.)Bush26.)NgataWould be mistake for Texans to take young over bush they have above-good QB in Carr...They need to take Bush spend rnds 2-4 on Offensive line then try bring in best OL FA's Young I could see going to saints but I think leinhart will be better QB and best one come out draft sense carson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whur CHad At? Posted January 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Vince Young is one of the most accurate QB's in all of college football. He leads the NCAA in completion percentage, and he was 30-40 at the rose bowl.Bush Isn't an everydown back, which is a problem. He can only run 15-16 times a gam, which means you can't rely on him. And besides, when Bush goes up against a good D, he can't do anything. Lendell White is a better all around running back than Bush, but doesn't receive the accolades he deserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Bush Isn't an everydown back, which is a problem. He can only run 15-16 times a gam, which means you can't rely on him. And besides, when Bush goes up against a good D, he can't do anything. Lendell White is a better all around running back than Bush, but doesn't receive the accolades he deserves. With athletes like Bush, this is normally the case. Bush, however, is both stocky and tall. He has the physical attributes to carry the ball many times a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 If the Texans keep the pick it has to be Bush. The presence of Dominick Davis shouldn't be a factor since he can assume the power back role that Lendale White filled...allowing Bush to get his 15-20 carries out of the backfield with an additional 10-15 snaps as a receiver. BTW, I think people are guilty of overthinking the top candidates right now. The focus is now on what they can't do within certain systems instead of acknowledging their obvious strengths. Yeah, Lendale White can play for almost any NFL team right now while Bush will justify his draft position only if a team uses him properly. So what? Don't you think that the team that drafts Bush will understand that much of his value is based upon his ability as a receiver and will use him accordingly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Reggie Bush is a complete player and anyone who thinks otherwise must of watched a different game than me the other night. The thing that most impressed me about reggie was about half the time the guys was LOOKING for contact. I can think of five times he got hit and it was the Texas guys going backwards. I didn't think he could do thatFast as hellgreat pass catchermore physical thatn I thoughtgood blockerThe only thing I worry about with Bush is his sizeI have a lot of doubts about how Vince Young's game would transfer in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reuben8733 Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 I think with the performance in the rose bowl.....Vince Young is the number 1 pick the in 2006 NFL Draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsNYC Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Reggie Bush will be taken #1 overall by the Texans. Rookie RBs have a better track record at contributing immediately during their rookie campaigns than QBs (Leinart/Young) would.As far as the Bengals go right now.......I want SS Michael Huff from Texas. That kid hits like a truck and his frame looks like it could take on some additional bulk w/out slowing him down. He is a converted corner so his coverage skills won't be as questioned as other safeties (see Blue, Greg). I know that I'm probably a little too high off Huff after seeing him play an exceptional Rose Bowl game but he had a great season and I liked what I saw in the other games I watched as well. Madieu and Michael, just like the sound of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted January 6, 2006 Report Share Posted January 6, 2006 Vince Young's stock went up about 20 picks after the Rose Bowl. However, Leinart is still a more prototypical NFL QB, and plus, Reggie Bush can catch, return, and run the ball. So there will be no need to use him as an every down back. That's what Domanick Davis is for. I agree that maybe the Texans should trade down for D'Brickshaw Ferguson, but O-linemen can come in later rounds too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I think with the performance in the rose bowl.....Vince Young is the number 1 pick the in 2006 NFL Draft That's the story this week. Next week everyone will be talking about the things scouts say he can't do in the NFL, and he'll slip back behind Bush and Leinart. Wait for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 I've seen enough Vince Young to say it should be a no-brainer if he becomes the 1st Mack Brown early entry that he'll be the #1 pick. But his throwing mechanics might actually prompt some team from pulling the trigger. I doubt Vince Young declares, though.As far as the Bengals go right now.......I want SS Michael Huff from Texas. That kid hits like a truck and his frame looks like it could take on some additional bulk w/out slowing him down. He is a converted corner so his coverage skills won't be as questioned as other safeties (see Blue, Greg). I know that I'm probably a little too high off Huff after seeing him play an exceptional Rose Bowl game but he had a great season and I liked what I saw in the other games I watched as well. Madieu and Michael, just like the sound of it. I'd say it's a little late in the day for Huff. Expect him to be converted back to corner and be taken as the 1st CB in this year's draft, which would probably put him at about #10 overall. The hope would be that other CBs such as Jimmy Williams, Tye Hill, and Will Blackmon (who played WR this year for BC) might get the nod by teams ahead of Huff and cause him to slide...but after watching Huff a few times this year, I really doubt he drops because he is that good.The greater likelihood at the Bengals 1st pick would be Huff's teammate #8 Cedric Griffin who was actually playing CB but looks like he won't have the sprinter speed to go high as a corner. But given how phsyical he is his move to safety at the next level looks pretty good. Griffin was the one early in the Rose Bowl who annihilated the USC FB after a catch so bad it knocked dude's hat clean off his head and sent him out of the game for awhile...a totally vicious hitter is Griffin with ample speed to patrol the safety positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentjett Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Good call on Cedric Griffin, he's a stud. I'm not for sure on how old he is or if he is coming out but he did look like a superb athlete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 The greater likelihood at the Bengals 1st pick would be Huff's teammate #8 Cedric Griffin who was actually playing CB but looks like he won't have the sprinter speed to go high as a corner. But given how phsyical he is his move to safety at the next level looks pretty good. Griffin was the one early in the Rose Bowl who annihilated the USC FB after a catch so bad it knocked dude's hat clean off his head and sent him out of the game for awhile...a totally vicious hitter is Griffin with ample speed to patrol the safety positions. Yeah, that was a great play and just the latest in a long line of monster hits. I'm pretty sure Griffin was the player who made a last second stick on a Buckeye who had just gotten his hands on a potential TD pass. Turned out to be a huge play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 Vince Young is one of the most accurate QB's in all of college football. He leads the NCAA in completion percentage, and he was 30-40 at the rose bowl.Bush Isn't an everydown back, which is a problem. He can only run 15-16 times a gam, which means you can't rely on him. And besides, when Bush goes up against a good D, he can't do anything. Lendell White is a better all around running back than Bush, but doesn't receive the accolades he deserves.they got a good RB to share time with bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted January 7, 2006 Report Share Posted January 7, 2006 The greater likelihood at the Bengals 1st pick would be Huff's teammate #8 Cedric Griffin who was actually playing CB but looks like he won't have the sprinter speed to go high as a corner. But given how phsyical he is his move to safety at the next level looks pretty good. Griffin was the one early in the Rose Bowl who annihilated the USC FB after a catch so bad it knocked dude's hat clean off his head and sent him out of the game for awhile...a totally vicious hitter is Griffin with ample speed to patrol the safety positions. Yeah, that was a great play and just the latest in a long line of monster hits. I'm pretty sure Griffin was the player who made a last second stick on a Buckeye who had just gotten his hands on a potential TD pass. Turned out to be a huge play. Ah yes the great Ryan Hamby juggling fest. Griffin cleaned up the play but Hamby sure was wide open and the ball was right to him.The scary thing about the Texas secondary is that the other Griffin -- Michael #27, a junior -- might just be better at the next level than either Huff or Cedric the other Griffin. He was the one who picked off the pass in the end zone and got his foot in. The call of inc. pass was overturned after review.Another scary thing was as good as the Texas secondary was, USC still had no problem putting pts on the board. They were a machine on offense. If Vince Young doesn't come out, Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart got to be the 1-2 in the draft. Both those players look like they'll be NFL starters for a long while and any team with QB or RB issues will do well by drafting either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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