Bratkowski to coach Detroit?

[andybren]

Next in line?

"Bob Bratkowski, offensive coordinator, Cincinnati: His work with Carson Palmer has made him a future head coaching prospect. Bratkowski has built the Bengals' offense from the beginnings of the Marvin Lewis era. He built a running game around Rudi Johnson. He managed the development of Palmer properly. Now, he's implementing a lot of no-huddle options for Palmer."

Could we really be this lucky? Or will Millen look too close and poach Zampese instead?

[bengalindian]

Tennessee just hired some guy from Ole Miss to be its OC right? So they should let Brat go and get Norm Chow! Chow's already worked with Palmer before, and that would be disgusting what this offense could do.

[jjakq27]

Tennessee just hired some guy from Ole Miss to be its OC right? So they should let Brat go and get Norm Chow! Chow's already worked with Palmer before, and that would be disgusting what this offense could do.

I thought Chow was Tennessee's OC. Did they fire him????

[AMC]

Univ of Tenn hired Cutcliffe (guy from Ole Miss). The rumors had Chow going to Univ of Tenn FROM the Titans. Now that Chow is still the OC for the Titans he could be a candidate he is saying...

[MARVIN=W'S]

I would love to understand why I read these posts about getting rid of Brat. Is he that bad? Why, because you can find a few plays that you dont agree with? You can do that to any OC. Have you seen our offense??? Thats HIS, from before ML. All I can say is be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

[skyline]

I would love to understand why I read these posts about getting rid of Brat. Is he that bad? Why, because you can find a few plays that you dont agree with? You can do that to any OC. Have you seen our offense??? Thats HIS, from before ML. All I can say is be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Yep. We have a top 3 offense and people are complaining about the OC. Unbelievable

[derekshank]

News flash guys...

If the rest of the NFL views Brat as a good candidate for a head coaching role, it is probable that he is not a bad OC... get you're heads out of your asses!

[redsbengalsbucks]

Still have to say that Brat needs to learn how to call a game with a big lead. He seems to always allow the other team back into it by not RUNNING the clock out.

Cant complain about the overall results though.

Anyone else tired of seeing Palmer, CJ, TJ and the rest of the starters in a game with a 2 score lead and less than 2 minutes left. I think this is why Kitna, Perry and the 4,5 and 6 WR's are there for.

Can you imagine if Palmer would have went down late in the fourth quarter of the Ravens game?

The Pitt game would be Kitna starting for no good reason other than the coaching staff did not take him out of a game when it was over.

I now Kitna is not as good as Palmer, but I think he can hand the ball off to Cris Perry a few times at the end of a game.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

I hope Brat doesn't go anywhere, but boy, if he got a QB prospect to go with those wideouts in Detroit, he could put together a scary offense.

[AMC]

In Pasquarelli's column on ESPN.com, he said scouts say that the Detroit WRs are the laziest bunch of dudes in the NFL...

I don't want to see Brat go anywhere....continuity is the essense of success....see how they are putting more no-huddle in now.....Brat is priming them for a playoff run with the no-huddle...

actually hate to lose him or zampese....I see a bigger shakeup in the D-coaching ranks....

Also there are rumors about Coyle being a D-coord. prospect...

[ShulaSteakhouse]

Yeah I am also not understanding the criticism of Brat - it's just ignorant, sorry.

If we lose him next year, the Bengals will not be better off for it.

I'd like to see Palmer in this system for another year or two before Brat leaves so that they can maintain it.

I don't know why Brat would want to go to Detroit though - that's a career killing position as long as Millen is running things.

[derekshank]

Yeah I am also not understanding the criticism of Brat - it's just ignorant, sorry.

If we lose him next year, the Bengals will not be better off for it.

I'd like to see Palmer in this system for another year or two before Brat leaves so that they can maintain it.

I don't know why Brat would want to go to Detroit though - that's a career killing position as long as Millen is running things.

Yeah... but people said the same thing about the Bengals and Mike Brown. I'm not saying that Brat is Marvin... but I wouldn't be surprised if Millen is fired when the year is done too.

[AMC]

I know super bowls have been won with marginal QBs, but DET will go nowhere with Harrington...

the biggest thing that turned the Bengals around besides Marvin's intellect and wisdom is Carson....Its more about leadership and respect from teammates....obviously some of that comes from performance...until you have that you lose....that O-line and the receivers need to believe in the QB...

[Columbusbengal]

I hope Brat doesn't go anywhere, but boy, if he got a QB prospect to go with those wideouts in Detroit, he could put together a scary offense.

I suspect that if Brat goes to Detroit, they will let Garcia leave and sign Kitna as a free agent. Thank goodness we won't have to play them for three or four more years

[derekshank]

I hope Brat doesn't go anywhere, but boy, if he got a QB prospect to go with those wideouts in Detroit, he could put together a scary offense.

I suspect that if Brat goes to Detroit, they will let Garcia leave and sign Kitna as a free agent. Thank goodness we won't have to play them for three or four more years

Interesting thought actually. I bet Lions fans are drooling over that possibility. If they draft a couple O-Linemen, have Kitna as their QB, and have Brat as their coach, they will be a good team in a couple years...

But lets hope that Brat... and Kitna for that matter, stay here.

[AMC]

Kitna is the glue on this team....would hate to lose him....what a group of guys they have in that locker room! I would hate to break up any one piece of that...of course they will have to for salary concerns sometime, but Marvin has built a great locker room...and thats as important as the changes on the field...

[derekshank]

Marvin has built a great locker room...and thats as important as the changes on the field...

Yep... which is why Myles got cut. We don't need those locker room distractions.

[ArmyBengal]

Don't get me wrong, I love having Kitna on this team and especially love the job he has done mentoring Carson. Looking at Detroit do you honestly think Kitna could go to that team (Brat or not) and lead them to the playoffs ?? I think not... There is a reason Carson got the starting job over Kitna. Answer this question... If somethng happened to Carson (GOD FORBID) and Kitna had to get the start the rest of the way starting this weekend against the Steelers, do we still win the North and make it to the playoffs ??

Back on track, I would rather not lose Brat after our first winning season regardless. I think a good word already used is "Continuity". Look no further than our O-line (one of two to come back intact from last year) to see why continuity is important...

WHODEY !!!

[derekshank]

Don't get me wrong, I love having Kitna on this team and especially love the job he has done mentoring Carson. Looking at Detroit do you honestly think Kitna could go to that team (Brat or not) and lead them to the playoffs ?? I think not... There is a reason Carson got the starting job over Kitna. Answer this question... If somethng happened to Carson (GOD FORBID) and Kitna had to get the start the rest of the way starting this weekend against the Steelers, do we still win the North and make it to the playoffs ??

Back on track, I would rather not lose Brat after our first winning season regardless. I think a good word already used is "Continuity". Look no further than our O-line (one of two to come back intact from last year) to see why continuity is important...

WHODEY !!!

Carson obviously is a better QB than Kitna... but Kitna still knows what he is doing. He nearly got us to the playoffs a couple years ago. You're right... there is a reason that Palmer is starting ahead of Kitna. He would also be starting ahead of just about everyone in the NFL except Manning and Brady. He is leading the league in passer rating, TD's and completion %, is 2nd in the league in yards... and is 4th in the league in INT's. He's an MVP candidate.

Kitna is not Palmer... but he is certainly miles better than anything probably half of the teams in the NFL are starting right now... so give credit where it's due.

Brady isn't a great QB because of his overwhelming physical skills... but with his leadership and brain... 2 things Kitna has a lot of. I think he might have saved Mariucci's job... had he been their starter. He wouldn't take them to the playoffs... but he would certainly be an upgrade, and a new coaching regime might give the Lions hope for the future.

All of that to say... let's re-sign Kitna

[Columbusbengal]

Kitna is the glue on this team....would hate to lose him....what a group of guys they have in that locker room! I would hate to break up any one piece of that

I don't think Kitna would leave the Bengals under any other circumstance other than this. He'd be willing to accompany Brat somewhere and be the starting QB. He is very loyal to Brat and would not have to learn a new offensive system. HOWEVER, as Cowherd just pointed out on his show, the Lions have a horrendous offensive line. That could get an immobiile QB like Kitna killed! Heck, maybe they'd keep Garcia and Kitna would become the offensive coordinator

[jamesbrooks21]

I would love to understand why I read these posts about getting rid of Brat. Is he that bad? Why, because you can find a few plays that you dont agree with? You can do that to any OC. Have you seen our offense??? Thats HIS, from before ML. All I can say is be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Yep. We have a top 3 offense and people are complaining about the OC. Unbelievable

No doubt. It's f**king unbelievable. I haven't seen one post about how well he has called the past few games. Where do people think the "no-huddle" came from? We have completely pissed on top 5 defenses the past couple weeks.

[ArmyBengal]

Don't get me wrong, I love having Kitna on this team and especially love the job he has done mentoring Carson. Looking at Detroit do you honestly think Kitna could go to that team (Brat or not) and lead them to the playoffs ?? I think not... There is a reason Carson got the starting job over Kitna. Answer this question... If somethng happened to Carson (GOD FORBID) and Kitna had to get the start the rest of the way starting this weekend against the Steelers, do we still win the North and make it to the playoffs ??

Back on track, I would rather not lose Brat after our first winning season regardless. I think a good word already used is "Continuity". Look no further than our O-line (one of two to come back intact from last year) to see why continuity is important...

WHODEY !!!

Carson obviously is a better QB than Kitna... but Kitna still knows what he is doing. He nearly got us to the playoffs a couple years ago. You're right... there is a reason that Palmer is starting ahead of Kitna. He would also be starting ahead of just about everyone in the NFL except Manning and Brady. He is leading the league in passer rating, TD's and completion %, is 2nd in the league in yards... and is 4th in the league in INT's. He's an MVP candidate.

Kitna is not Palmer... but he is certainly miles better than anything probably half of the teams in the NFL are starting right now... so give credit where it's due.

Brady isn't a great QB because of his overwhelming physical skills... but with his leadership and brain... 2 things Kitna has a lot of. I think he might have saved Mariucci's job... had he been their starter. He wouldn't take them to the playoffs... but he would certainly be an upgrade, and a new coaching regime might give the Lions hope for the future.

All of that to say... let's re-sign Kitna

YES LET'S RE-SIGN KITNA !!! I agree, but will not give anymore credit than is deserving and Kitna's best was worth 8-8. That's not to say he wouldn't have done better this year, but there's no proof either way, so it's a mute point. ONCE AGAIN, I love what Kitna brings to the team, locker room, and the mentorship of Carson, but if you feel comfortable with him on the field getting us to the playoffs, I disagree. Jon is a natural leader and a field general indeed, but his skills are not at the same level. He's not Brady either...

Besides all of that about Kitna, Brat won't have any more success than another guy if Millen is still there. That is who the Lions should have fired !!!

WHODEY !!!

[buck3y3d]

No doubt. It's f**king unbelievable. I haven't seen one post about how well he has called the past few games. Where do people think the "no-huddle" came from? We have completely pissed on top 5 defenses the past couple weeks.

The no-huddle came from Sam Wyche. Some of the play calls are unbelievable. A fade on 3rd and goal from the 2. You guys act like Bratowski makes this offense. Palmer and the o-line make this offense. The man behind Palmer is Zampese. He is the true genius of the offense and should be offensive coordinator. Sure we are a top 3 offense, but we should be 1 or 2 with the Colts and by a wide margin. The talent on this offense is unbelievable. Brat can't call a game. His game plans are good because we all see what he can do in the 1st half of games, but he doesn't adjust. He is not a good gameday coach. He is repetitive, predictible, and not nearly agressive enough.

[ShulaSteakhouse]

No doubt. It's f**king unbelievable. I haven't seen one post about how well he has called the past few games. Where do people think the "no-huddle" came from? We have completely pissed on top 5 defenses the past couple weeks.

The no-huddle came from Sam Wyche. Some of the play calls are unbelievable. A fade on 3rd and goal from the 2. You guys act like Bratowski makes this offense. Palmer and the o-line make this offense. The man behind Palmer is Zampese. He is the true genius of the offense and should be offensive coordinator. Sure we are a top 3 offense, but we should be 1 or 2 with the Colts and by a wide margin. The talent on this offense is unbelievable. Brat can't call a game. His game plans are good because we all see what he can do in the 1st half of games, but he doesn't adjust. He is not a good gameday coach. He is repetitive, predictible, and not nearly agressive enough.

Cmon you can say that about any o-coordinator in this league. How do you know that Zampese is running the show?

Brat is the architect of the entire offensive scheme and the passing game in particular - and Palmer and Kitna have bothed flourished in it - before Zampese got here.

But again not sure why anyone would actually take that crap job in Detroit unless they were desperate or didn't foresee getting another HC opportunity down the road.

Brat is not a sideline HC type, he is making a name for himself here and I think he'd be crazy to leave for a position like that just yet. If i were him I'd give it 2-3 more years here before making any moves.

[HairOnFire]

Anyone else tired of seeing Palmer, CJ, TJ and the rest of the starters in a game with a 2 score lead and less than 2 minutes left. I think this is why Kitna, Perry and the 4,5 and 6 WR's are there for.

After the Bengals beat Pittsburgh... ...I think they'll try to get Kitna some snaps in the last 3 or 4 games, not to protect their starters from the threat of injury, but to knock some of the rust off of Kitna in the event he has to play in the playoff games.