Enjoy the winning now marvin will be gone in the next 5 years

[jungleman]

I think if Portune and the county dont drop this marvin will decide to go to a bigger market job. i doubt he will stay and put up with this b.s portune is going to cost this city a winning team.

[Stripes]

I don't expect that to happen. This whole Portune this seems a bit blown out of proportion. By the way, you may wanna lose two of the anti-Colts flags, they kinda funk up the page, especially for dial-up folks.

[jungleman]

i think it will happen look at it this way Marvin wants to build a legacy as a great coach and this is a stepping stone job for him. You see we are a mac conference team and he can go to a sec club. I hope im wrong but i just see lack of facilities leading him to go elsewhere. And this whole Portune thing blown out of proportion is bs the bengals are being sued for $600mm i dont call that anything other than serious.

[Stripes]

I honestly hadn't heard this issue ressurrected until today. Even if it is a big deal, Marvin doesn't seem the type to crave a big time big city job. He craves a Superbowl victory. Despite these other problems, the Bengals are in position to do just that soon.

[dcbengal1]

Lewis said publicly that the lack of facilities might cost the Bengals needed practice time come the playoffs. So since it is a Superbowl victory he craves, this kind of BS will very possibly cause him to move on.

[jungleman]

dc you make a excellent point and sports plus is not where the bengals should hold practices. think about it marvin having to schedule practice around a womens soccer league how long could you deal with that.

[buck3y3d]

Lewis said publicly that the lack of facilities might cost the Bengals needed practice time come the playoffs. So since it is a Superbowl victory he craves, this kind of BS will very possibly cause him to move on.

The greatest coach ever coached for Green Bay, the smallest market in the NFL. Marvin will coach in Cincinnati because of the support he has from the team and the city (stop talking about Portune, this will not end up being a problem). It is unlikely that he could have this kind of control with any other team. Finally, the NFL is not like college. You don't switch cities to be in a larger market. The only job i could ever see him taking would be Pittsburgh because he grew up there.

The facitility thing doesn't matter. Marvin and the Bengals want an indoor practice facitility. My question to you is, do you live in Hamilton County? I personally am tired of paying for stadiums. An indoor practice facility will cost even more money. This is ridiculous. I love Marvin, but if he wants to leave because of practice facilities (IMOP this will never happen) then i say go ahead.

[dcbengal1]

OK, since you answered that one so well, how about this:

Check out teh weights of the Colts DE's:

"Anderson has high regard for the 6-1, 268-pound Freeney. But he’s also impressed with the 6-2, 235-pound Mathis, as well as the 6-4, 274-pound Raheem Brock, the left end that plays a lot on running downs and has four sacks himself.

“They have erased their finesse tag if they ever had it,” Anderson said. “That’s not in their vocabulary.”"

I say again: Mathis, 235 pounds?????

So maybe Lewis is on to something in saying the size of the defensive line shouldn't matter re stopping the run. Chicago's DL wasn't that big either.....

[scott91575]

Lewis said publicly that the lack of facilities might cost the Bengals needed practice time come the playoffs. So since it is a Superbowl victory he craves, this kind of BS will very possibly cause him to move on.

The greatest coach ever coached for Green Bay, the smallest market in the NFL. Marvin will coach in Cincinnati because of the support he has from the team and the city (stop talking about Portune, this will not end up being a problem). It is unlikely that he could have this kind of control with any other team. Finally, the NFL is not like college. You don't switch cities to be in a larger market. The only job i could ever see him taking would be Pittsburgh because he grew up there.

The facitility thing doesn't matter. Marvin and the Bengals want an indoor practice facitility. My question to you is, do you live in Hamilton County? I personally am tired of paying for stadiums. An indoor practice facility will cost even more money. This is ridiculous. I love Marvin, but if he wants to leave because of practice facilities (IMOP this will never happen) then i say go ahead.

Exactly right. In the NFL the only coaches that move around are ones that retire, then think they made a mistake and decide to take a job. This is not college. The NFL teams are pretty equal in pay, and all teams have the ability to equal another pay option for a coach. Only if the Bengals change ownership (not gonna happen) does this come into play. When ownership changes things like salary matches get caught in limbo. Outside of that the only reason that a coach leaves a team is ownership disputes (which normally leads to a firing or forced resignation) or an outright retirement. NFL coaches hate to leave teams they built. Only the Parcells and Vermiels of the world who decide to retire multiple times jump ships. Even then their retirements were pretty legit at the time. I don't see Marvin doing this.

[jungleman]

the greatest coach ever did not coach in this era. he coached when players didnt make much money and played for the love of the game and not where free agents are looking for the best facilities and pay. i think that you have to be kidding yourself in that regard also if you knew lombardi's history you knew he didnt end his career coaching in green bay.

Lombardi began his career as a professional football coach in 1954, when he became the Offensive Coordinator for the New York Giants. The Giants had finished the previous season with a woeful 3-9 record, but Lombardi and Defensive Coordinator Tom Landry needed only three years to turn the team into a championship team. Lombardi relied on the talents of the great Frank Gifford, whom Lombardi switched from defense to offense as a pass-option player.

Lombardi was not content, however, to remain an assistant coach, and in 1958 he accepted the position of head coach and general manager of the Green Bay Packers. The Packers at the time were dismal, having won only a single game the previous season, but Lombardi felt that his coaching skills were equal to the challenge. Lombardi immediately began building his reputation as an extraordinarily demanding coach, creating punishing training regimens and expecting absolute dedication and effort from his players. His unrelenting coaching philosophy paid off with a remarkable 105-35-6 record as a head coach, and he never coached a losing season. After losing his first playoff game, in 1960, he never again lost a game in the postseason. He led the Packers to a still-unmatched three consecutive NFL championships in 1965, 1966, and 1967. The Packers also won the first two Super Bowls under his leadership. Lombardi's popularity was so great that Richard Nixon supposedly considered naming him his running mate for the election, only to be reminded by an advisor that Lombardi was a Kennedy Democrat.

As coach of the Packers, Lombardi converted Notre Dame quarterback Paul Hornung to halfback, running a play he had originally developed for Gifford that would become known as the Packer power sweep.

Although Lombardi retired as head coach of the Packers in 1967, his competitive drive led him to return to the NFL in 1969 as coach of the Washington Redskins, where he broke a string of 14 losing seasons. Unfortunately, he was soon after diagnosed with cancer, and died on September 3, 1970. Many people made long journeys to attend his funeral, and hardened football veterans wept openly at the service; President Nixon went so far as to send a telegram of condolence signed "The People". Lombardi was enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1971, and in that year the NFL's trophy was renamed the Vince Lombardi Trophy in his honor.

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The Ice Bowl

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Lombardi

[AGrizzlyBaer]

i think marvin wants a bill cower type tenor, just my opinion

[AMC]

i think marvin wants a bill cower type tenor, just my opinion

I totally agree....I think Marvin will be here around 10-15 more years......Although the one job that may pull at him would be the Steeler job...with Marvin being from PITT and coaching there...but he knows he means SO much to the city of Cincinnati I don't think he would be that big of a Judas....

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

i think marvin wants a bill cower type tenor, just my opinion

I didn't realize Cower was a Tenor. I thought he was more of a soprano?

[AMC]

i think marvin wants a bill cower type tenor, just my opinion

I didn't realize Cower was a Tenor. I thought he was more of a soprano?

Bada Bing...where's Paulie when you need 'em?

[AGrizzlyBaer]

my bad but hey you guys got my point

[AMC]

my bad but hey you guys got my point

Absolutely grizz...

[turningpoint]

you guys are crazy, Marvin does certain things for certain reasons.

He brings up stuff at perfect times, and always says the right stuff,but never enough and laves you hungry for more.

I bet we have a bubble erected within the next 3 years, he's just getting the city warmed up for it, cause he sees the team as being a perenial playoff team, and so do I.

If he moves people slowly and early it won't come up something he just demanded out of nowhere if we happen to lose a playoff game in the next few years.

If some how make it to the AFC champ game vs the colts and lose, he'll have a legitmate beef.

Something will be slowly done.

If marvin wins a superbowl in the next 2 years, all marvin should have to ask once and should be done.

Convincing the city that the bengals are for real takes more then a 7-2 record and shot at the playoffs, we need to sustain this for several year and a bubble will be erected.