Kirkendall Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 WASHINGTON (Feb. 18, 2004) -- Four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey, already given permission to seek a trade, was designated a franchise player by the Washington Redskins. The Redskins had until Feb. 24 to make the move, but it became inevitable after contract talks reached a stalemate last week. The franchise tag keeps Bailey from becoming a free agent when his contract expires next month. It also means the Redskins have to make him a one-year, $6.8 million tender -- the average of the top five players at his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shworge Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 This was to be expected. I think the fact Lewis is refusing to comment on whether the Bengals are one of the 10 interested teams proves they are. I would love to see Bailey as a Bengal but not at the current asking price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 It's just not meant to be I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 What, you mean the Redskins don't wanna let him go?? Get outta here! Wow, I really didn't see that one coming, suprised me completely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Keep this in mind fellas, the Redskins could have tagged Bailey to keep his price down and then trade him to the Lions. I'm sure as a UFA he could have gotten a hellva lot more than $6.8 million. Now this benefits the Lions with decent pay and the Redskins with a first and second rounder. Four picks in the first 2 rounds? Yea buddy, Joe Gibbs is BACK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 I agree about the franchise tag being used to keep the price down... Perfect scenario for a sign and trade deal... Plus Franchise players get 2 first round picks in compensation... Team could give up one this year and 1 next year.....Maybe it's just me, but i personally don't like giving up first round picks....We've been bad for so long.. it was the only bit of hope i had going into most post seasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 This today from ESPN.com:SKIN'S INTENT ON DEALING BAILEYBy Len PasquarelliESPN.com INDIANAPOLIS -- Several teams are interested in acquiring four-time Pro Bowl cornerback Champ Bailey from the Redskins, but there is a stumbling block.It appears that owner Daniel Snyder can't decide just what it will take from one of the cornerback's several suitors to make a trade pan out for Washington, and what level of compensation will allow the Redskins some degree of spin control if forced to rationalize his departure.Bailey's agent, Jack Reale, had extensive discussions with four to six teams here before departing late Friday afternoon. Reale is seemingly convinced there are teams prepared right now to pay the price to sign Bailey to a hefty contract.There seems to be a sliding scale Snyder is tossing out to teams. For the Detroit Lions, who own the sixth overall choice in the 2004 draft, a first-round pick might be enough, since the choice is so high. For a team with a lower choice in the first round, Snyder will demand more, like an additional second- or third-rounder.One thing that remains obvious, officials from other teams concur, is that the Redskins will eventually send Bailey elsewhere for a couple of reasons. First, Snyder simply doesn't like him anymore. Something about a perception that Bailey doesn't really want to be a Redskins player for life. Second, the economics will dictate a deal.Because the team has already placed the "franchise" designation on him, Bailey counts $6.801 million against the Redskins salary cap for 2004. As of Friday, according to NFL salary documents, Washington has, counting Bailey's charge, $79.851 million against its 2004 cap. That is only about $1 million below the spending ceiling.Washington will get cap relief when defensive end Bruce Smith, who carries a tag of $8.84 million, officially retires. But even then, the Redskins will be tight against the '04 spending limit, and perhaps handcuffed in free agency by Bailey's situation.Snyder could create more cap room by re-doing tackle Chris Samuels' contract and reducing his glitzy cap value of nearly $9 million. However, Jimmy Sexton, Samuels' agent and also agent for disgruntled quarterback Patrick Ramsey, likely wouldn't oblige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Good....I'm glad to see the Redskins suffer...There are all types of addictions... Alcoholism,drug addiction,gambling, and Snyder looks to have Spendism. You pay 43 million for an over the hill , washed up quarterback,then wonder why you're in a bad cap situation..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 One thing that remains obvious, officials from other teams concur, is that the Redskins will eventually send Bailey elsewhere for a couple of reasons. First, Snyder simply doesn't like him anymore. Something about a perception that Bailey doesn't really want to be a Redskins player for life. Second, the economics will dictate a deal. I'm more inclined to believe the first rationale than the 2nd. Snyder has shown too many times he has no aversion to spending money on his team. He doesn't do it very wisely, but he still does it. Tagging Bailey shouldn't have been a major shock to anyone. The first time it was mentioned was when they signed Arrington to a new contract. Look for McCallister to be next. Even at that, it'll still leave a couple of pretty darned good players on the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Fernando Bryant looks to be a pretty good compliment, and has exceptional speed. Jaguars may not be in a position to keep him with Donovan Darius being a free Agent as well. If we could get him for 2-3 million a year... Would seriously bring up secondary...But ... a corner with his abilities in the draft could be found as well.. .. and would be cheaper.. just inexperienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Fernando Bryant looks to be a pretty good compliment, and has exceptional speed. Jaguars may not be in a position to keep him with Donovan Darius being a free Agent as well. If we could get him for 2-3 million a year... Would seriously bring up secondary...But ... a corner with his abilities in the draft could be found as well.. .. and would be cheaper.. just inexperienced. I'm not familiar with him, but after looking him up he doesn't seem to be the size that Lewis and Frazier like. His numbers seemed solid, but not great.Lewis has called out Weathersby saying he expects more from him this year and expects him to work his way into a starting position. Given the potential that Weathersby is supposed to have and the fact that he's had a year in the system, do you think Bryant has more of an upside than Weathersby ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted February 22, 2004 Report Share Posted February 22, 2004 Not sure if he'll be playing his better football for us, but Jaguar Coaches did say that he played his best football last year. I think if Dennis Weathersby can play up to his physical abilities, then he could turn out to be a Bobby Taylor for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Not sure about Bryant. I seem to remember the Jags getting burned good and often during a couple of their games...and by receivers who are not upper eschelon players. I like Vincent, or Taylor...maybe even that guy Winfield in Buffalo even if he is small. nfl.com had an article recently about Fantasy Football sleepers. They had Carson Palmer listed first. They say if he's handed the reins that he could easily put up 300yds per...and that the Bengals (Who Dey!!) have probably the best young receiving corps in Johnson, Warrick, and Washington for him to throw to.Have to say I'd agree with that assesment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsNYC Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 could you post that link about the fantasy sleepers? i could not find it......thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 could you post that link about the fantasy sleepers? i could not find it......thanks! Here you go. It was in the other thread. http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/story/7098455 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Not sure about Bryant. I seem to remember the Jags getting burned good and often during a couple of their games...and by receivers who are not upper eschelon players. I like Vincent, or Taylor...maybe even that guy Winfield in Buffalo even if he is small. nfl.com had an article recently about Fantasy Football sleepers. They had Carson Palmer listed first. They say if he's handed the reins that he could easily put up 300yds per...and that the Bengals (Who Dey!!) have probably the best young receiving corps in Johnson, Warrick, and Washington for him to throw to.Have to say I'd agree with that assesment. I saw that one too. It also mentioned that he was going to have a good young line in front of him as well as the receivers. Ludwig has an article in Dayton Daily News saying that Palmer is just too good to let sit for another year. Skill positions seem to be set ( one way or another ) I'd like to see Schobel develop into the all purpose te that was expected ........... other than that it looks like the offense is ready to go. ( I'm giving Brat the benefit of the doubt here ) I'd still feel a little better with more depth on the O line as well though. See you got home OK. I'm out all week again, but I'll give you a call on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted February 23, 2004 Report Share Posted February 23, 2004 Ludwig has an article in Dayton Daily News saying that Palmer is just too good to let sit for another year. Somebody welcome this man into the world of the cognizant. No freaking DUH! Sometimes a grasp of the obvious can be elusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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