Humanzee 5000 Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 By Jet32"IMO you have to keep Perry on the field as much as possible. This may sound stupid, but Rudi may be the one losing snaps when it is all said and done."This was brought up in the post about Henry taking over for Housh. I've THOUGHT about the same thing, but after watching the games, whether Rudi gets 85 or 200 yards seems irrelevant to me the way the offense is moving right now. Rudi is the workhorse back on this team and in Marvin didn't want him on here, he would have been gone this offseason when we could have undoubtedly got some sick trades or draft picks for him. He completely wore down the minnesota front four and those guys are ill! I love the Rudi plays where you think he's going down and all of the sudden he breaks off of every tackle for a 35 yard run (see last offensive play of bears game). I think Marvin is just extrememly happy that we have these two backs, and I'm not willing to forget Quincy Wilson aging like a fine bottle of cabernet on the practice squad! Yeah, Thunder and Lightning in our backfield, at least until Perry is up for a new contract, then we'll see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 He stays just based on the style of play in our conference. You need a guy like Rudi in the AFC North Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Perry's touches will increase, but that doesn't mean Rudi will lose many carries, if any at all. With both guys available, we will run the ball much more often than in recent seasons, especially after jumping to huge leads week in and week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The definition of playmaking is doing the things required to extend drives...thereby creating more plays...and more oportunities. We all know what we have in Rudi and in my opinion it's extremely valuable simply because his ability to extend drives creates more opportunities for everyone. So the real question in my mind isn't related to how many snaps Rudi might lose to Perry because he could actually be more effective getting slightly fewer carries. The real question I have is how many plays does Chris Perry make...not for himself...but for others? Example: Watch the play against the Vikings where TJ ends up catching the pass right in front of the endzone before scoring...after spinning away from coverage. The play was made possible by sending Perry in motion before lining up wide left. The safety was forced to follow him...opening up the middle for TJ. And in my book that's the very definition of playmaking even though you'll never see it listed on a stat page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Our fullback is the one likely to lose snaps here.PS: Hey Rudi, learn to block baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 ^^^ That would be great, having RJ and Perry both in the backfeild at the same time more. If both could improve their blocking teams wouldnt know what they were getting on each play. I never liked the thunder and lightning idea because teams can just adjust to whoever is in at the time, but if both are in there at the same time, i think it would be very effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBengalfan Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I would rather see Jeremi blocking for Rudi and Perry. They would add a thunder and lightning effect, kindof like James Brooks and Ickey Woods.I mean neither of them could complain as long as we're winning, Right or wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck3y3d Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Rudi may lose carries (hopefully he'll drop a few carries - last year he carried well over 300 times, and i hope he can play for another 7 to 10 years), but he should gain more yards. With Perry, an outside, make-you miss speedster, and RUDI, the bulldozer running through the middle, it will be tougher for defenses to stay fresh. That means Rudi will have some big 4th quarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I don't really like the idea of having Rudi and Perry in the backfield at the same time. They'd either have to give up a receiver or the fullback in that formation, and I don't like the thought of either one. Rudi's success will be very limited without that lead blocker, and Perry's success will be limited without the receivers opening the field for him.I would love to see a system where Rudi would go roughly two series, and then Perry would take over for one series. Rudi would then of course get the bulk of the action during the fourth quarter, assuming we have the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck3y3d Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I don't really like the idea of having Rudi and Perry in the backfield at the same time. They'd either have to give up a receiver or the fullback in that formation, and I don't like the thought of either one. Rudi's success will be very limited without that lead blocker, and Perry's success will be limited without the receivers opening the field for him.I would love to see a system where Rudi would go roughly two series, and then Perry would take over for one series. Rudi would then of course get the bulk of the action during the fourth quarter, assuming we have the lead.KC uses that system, but they need to put Holmes in near the endzone and they don't. I like that system, as long as Rudi is caring the ball for the TD's. His strength and size (and ability to hold onto the ball) are great assets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrandom42 Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Rudi may lose carries (hopefully he'll drop a few carries - last year he carried well over 300 times, and i hope he can play for another 7 to 10 years), but he should gain more yards. With Perry, an outside, make-you miss speedster, and RUDI, the bulldozer running through the middle, it will be tougher for defenses to stay fresh. That means Rudi will have some big 4th quarters. I agree, if Rudi doesn't have to carry the ball 25-30 times a game, the wear and tear on him is gonna be significantly less, and that's a good thing when the last few games of the season come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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