Bobcat Bengal Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 All good points, HOF . . . and by the way, what in the HELL is that => That's the Heat Miser!Gotta give it up to HOF for making the switch.I guess he decided to give it a go after we all pleaded (at least I did anyway) with him to change his avatar to it. It just fits him so much, dont you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesperateDerelict Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 That's the Heat Miser!It looks more like a cross between "Chuckie's" mother-in-law and a troll who was recently and repeatedly abused!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Antonio Bengal Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Marvinisms: Speed over size. Aggression over read-and-react. Simple schemes over complex gameplans. Do your job, and only your job, and trust that other players will do the same. Keep the game infront of you and reduce big plays surrendered. Eyes forward...ears back...legs always moving...get to the freakin' ball. Take it. Blitz and stunt only when the situation dictates you take bigger chances, not as a matter of choice. Want some? Get some.Marvinisms are built around an athelete's natural ability. It seems that other coaches can get extremely nuanced with their schemes and game plans. They might have a player with great natural ability, but no freedom to use that ability at 100%. What I mean is that sometimes guys will get stuck in a certain specific scheme such that the scheme itself limits them. Marvin's approach allows players extra room for the natural speed and aggression to be used much more effectively. It just seems to be that some guys on other teams get stuck in a system where they can't perform at their highest leevel.For a fan of defensive football this is fun stuff because THIS is what we've been waiting for.Oh, yeah. Coming into this year I thought it was all going to be about the offense, but I am so pumped about this defense. Good times in Bengaldom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 That's the Heat Miser!Gotta give it up to HOF for making the switch.I guess he decided to give it a go after we all pleaded (at least I did anyway) with him to change his avatar to it. It just fits him so much, dont you think? I decided to give it a go when they updated the board, a change that resulted in the disappearance of my beloved old school style Bengal helmet. To be perfectly honest I'm still not feeling much love for the Heat Miser...it's got to be the worst boobiemeister ever....but under the circumstances I decided to give it a chance due to all the requests. And speaking of something that fits me, check out this smilie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 49-0 And I'm being nice.Carson throws for 5 TD's1 to Chad 2 to TJ1 to Chris and1 to ChrisRudi runs for 2We make it 3 strait weeks at 5 INTs, Madieu 1Tory 2Deltha 1Landon 1But couple that with 5 sacksPollack 1Geathers 2Smith 1Robinson 1And 3 forced fumblesOdell 2Simmons 1Keiwan doesn't have impressive stats, but does manage to pick up Carr by the scrotum and throw him on a line judge, which is nice.We score no points in the fourth quarter and just start goofing off...Chad plays QB while eating fries...Every guy on the O-line attempts a field goal...Bobbie was closeNobody on special teams wears a helmetNot to be outdone, the D-line goes shirtless...Thornton's got serious man-boobs and Powell shows a lot of butt-cleavageCarson spends the entire 4th making out with his wife (and who wouldn't)Kitna goes witnessing in the croud and converts 2 Buddists (slippery little buggers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I didn't get to see the Vikings game, but seeing the Bears and Browns game, I was also surprised by the limited blitzing. Apparently they felt they could get enough pressure on the QB with the front four that he didn't have all day. When you do that, you get to keep more guys in coverage, resulting in more INT's.The plan certainly has worked so far... and I expect it to continue to work against the next two teams with some of the worst O-Lines in the NFL (Houston and Jacksonville). Both of these lines are getting their QB's killed, so I'm hoping for more of the same.It will be interesting to see if we can get decent pressure on Roethlisberger though with their O-Line. We haven't faced an O-line that talented yet... and with their running game we'll be forced to put more guys in the box. It will just be a fun game to watch. We sacked Big Ben like 7 times last time we played them... but that was with Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbusbengal Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 <Marvinisms: Speed over size. Aggression over read-and-react. Simple schemes over complex gameplans. Do your job, and only your job, and trust that other players will do the same.> I have a question about this. Many analysts have commented on how the Bengals defense is very aggressive and the players "swarm" toward the ball. There are always several players in position to make plays. How does this jibe with "doing your job and only your job?" It seems like everyone's job is to attack the ball. What am I missing?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 <Marvinisms: Speed over size. Aggression over read-and-react. Simple schemes over complex gameplans. Do your job, and only your job, and trust that other players will do the same.>I have a question about this. Many analysts have commented on how the Bengals defense is very aggressive and the players "swarm" toward the ball. There are always several players in position to make plays. How does this jibe with "doing your job and only your job?" It seems like everyone's job is to attack the ball. What am I missing?? You're not missing anything. He just wants them to attack the ball within the limits of their position. He doesn't want safeties eating dirt on play action, and doesn't want his linebackers to overpursue, etc... The defense is currently playing Marvin Ball at its best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 <Marvinisms: Speed over size. Aggression over read-and-react. Simple schemes over complex gameplans. Do your job, and only your job, and trust that other players will do the same.> I have a question about this. Many analysts have commented on how the Bengals defense is very aggressive and the players "swarm" toward the ball. There are always several players in position to make plays. How does this jibe with "doing your job and only your job?" It seems like everyone's job is to attack the ball. What am I missing?? Simply put, you trust your teammates to do their job, and you don't try to cover up a weakness by trying to do too much. Maybe you sacrifice your chance to make a play by soaking up a blocker? If you're a down lineman you might string a run wide instead of trying to make a tackle you can't make. Or how about a LDE who sacrifices his ability to get sacks because he realizes how important it is to make the right run or pass read? Then there's the "Trips or Bones" example where Bresnahan was heard telling O'Dell to turn a run inside where other players could make the tackle? And in a high profile example that we've seen plenty of already...how about corners trusting others to give them deep help, resulting in more jumped routes and more picks? Again, playing good defense has everything to do with attitude and you're not going to be as aggressive as you can be if you don't trust others to do their jobs. You're not going to sacrifice yourself on a play if you don't trust someone to cover your back. Ehhh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 As much as 50 is very possible, 50 is usually only scored in a shootout, and I don't see this being anything close. I'm thinking 38-7, with the Texans getting the 4th quarter TD, while we're all rooting for a shutout.Hopefully, it's David Carr because he's on my fantasy team, and I can't sit him because my 3rd QB is on a bye. Oh well, I'll suck it up.can;t even get another qb?? hell i;d take brooks bollinger over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Against the Texans I'm expecting more of the same simply because they're a team that is poorly suited to exploit what the Bengals are doing. The Texans don't run the ball well enough to dictate changes up front and their pass blockers aren't good enough to negate the pass rush....thereby forcing the Bengals to blitz more. That said, I actually do expect more blitzing from the Bengals...after they're up by a couple of scores....but only because the Texans seem poorly suited to keep them in check.Rod Woodson did a nice analysis of one of the looks the Bengals are giving in the nickel that led to a Keiwan pick vs. Vikes. The nickel CB and S up at the line opposite the slot WR, then both break off into underneath man coverage while one CB covers man on a WR split, the other CB drops back into zone, and the other S drifts even further back to play centerfield.Not the reason they're getting all the picks but what I liked about it is that it did give a wide angle view of how the Bengals are still threatening bliztz and forcing the QB to read hot.Gotta remember with the Texans the 1st 2 D's they faced this year were Buffalo and Pittsburgh, both of which bring it. Of the Steelers 8 sacks in the last Texans game, 5 were from DBs (3 Polamalu) according to NFL stats. I think Bengals blitz more vs. Texans too, but I also expect Carr to take off running a lot for this one and get chunks of yards when he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Rod Woodson did a nice analysis of one of the looks the Bengals are giving in the nickel that led to a Keiwan pick vs. Vikes. The nickel CB and S up at the line opposite the slot WR, then both break off into underneath man coverage while one CB covers man on a WR split, the other CB drops back into zone, and the other S drifts even further back to play centerfield.Not the reason they're getting all the picks but what I liked about it is that it did give a wide angle view of how the Bengals are still threatening bliztz and forcing the QB to read hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I know stats are only stats, and don't count for much, but this is unbelieveable. Check it out.http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/headtohead/t...dtohead/HOU/CINPoints/game:Cin: 29.3 Hou: 7.0Points allowed/gameCin: 9.3 Hou: 24.5Yards/gameCin: 389.3 Hou: 170.5Yards allowed/gameCin: 310.7 Hou: 352.0Passing Yards/gameCin: 256.7 Hou: 66.5Passing Yards allowed/gameCin: 218.0 Hou: 208.5Rushing Yards/gameCin: 132.7 Hou: 104.0Rushing Yards allowed/gameCin: 92.7 Hou: 143.5INT's thrownCin: 2 Hou:3INT's madeCin: 12 Hou:0It's incredible. Nearly every category is completely dominated by the Bengals, on both sides of the ball! I've never seen such a disparity in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 INT's madeCin: 12 Hou:0I'm surprised to see that they have no interceptions. They, like us, have a pretty opportunistic secondary. I'd have figured that Robinson or Buchanon would at least have one between them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 we are like 3-0 lifetime vs the texans and now we are actually good. no chance they even make this a game. 37-17 maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Again, I expect more blitzing against Carr, but only if the Bengals go up by a couple of scores. The key will be if the Bengals can get solid pass rush pressure from their down lineman. Sacks would be great, but constant pressure is more important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Username Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 this wont be close at all, the bengals are in for another blow out! carr is going to get sacked and picked alot, and since there o line sucks so much, the begals can stop there run. myt guess is 31-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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