AMC Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 This Czarnecki guy is an a@@!!!!!!!!!Players on the hot seat:Joey Harrington: There is no mistaking the pressure on this fourth-year starter and former first-round pick. He owns a 14-30 record as a starting quarterback, but the Lions — with three very good receivers, led by Roy Williams, and the best running back, Kevin Jones, in the NFC North — have a better offense this year. One of Harrington's problems has been the conservative offensive design of coach Steve Mariucci. He didn't allow Harrington to go downtown last season, so there's a ton of pressure on new offensive coordinator Ted Tollner to open up the playbook. There was talk about Mooch having a quick hook with Harrington this season, but backup Jeff Garcia hasn't looked that hot this summer. They should have signed Brad Johnson (who is in Minnesota now) when they had a chance.Jake Plummer: OK, it's tough replacing John Elway, but Jake is replacing Brian Griese, really, and he needs to step up and lead the Broncos to the playoffs or Mike Shanahan could go looking for a new quarterback for next season. Granted, the AFC West is a very competitive division, but none of the defenses are dominant and pass rushers are pretty rare. Jake always has a solid running game, so there are really no excuses if the Broncos don't have a winning record.Randy Moss: He may be the game's best receiver, but the Vikings have made him sound like one of the most selfish players in NFL history. He was unloaded for a measly first-round pick and a linebacker and the Raiders were the only team interested. What does that tell you? Moss may be great, but he's also a headache. Can Moss prove everyone wrong and bring the Raiders to the playoffs? Can he be a positive force and run solid routes even when he's not the primary receiver? And when the Raiders lose, will he sulk or will he fire up the troops and be a positive leader? Everyone will be watching.Kurt Warner: Can the 34-year-old veteran find the old MVP magic? Unlike his stint with the New York Giants, the Cardinals have the young offensive weapons to make Warner look good if he can stay upright and be accurate. Warner's starting record is 21 wins over .500 and with receivers Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin and runners Marcel Shipp and J.J. Arrington, he has the weapons to deliver. There are high hopes in the desert and the best thing Warner has going for him is head coach Denny Green. He knows how to build a winner.Carson Palmer: Head coach Marvin Lewis went for the USC Heisman winner and in his second season as the starter, Palmer needs to double his 18 touchdown passes of a year ago and reach 3,500 yards passing. Palmer has the supporting cast, considering running back Rudi Johnson and receiver Chad Johnson are fantasy-league favorites. If Palmer doesn't put the Bengals into playoff contention, the rumblings that he might be a bust No. 1 pick will start in Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/11 Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 czarnecki gets boo'd. what an idiot. palmer has to DOUBLE his 18 td's to not be a bust? who hired this guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted August 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 he's talking out of his a@@...has no idea what it is all about in the AFC North... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 czarnecki gets boo'd. what an idiot. palmer has to DOUBLE his 18 td's to not be a bust? who hired this guy? Does this guy understand that 36 TDs would have been third in the entire NFL last year ?And that was in a year where the top two guys both had exceptional years.In '03, 36 TD passes would have lead the entire NFL. what the hell is this guy talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I think he is referring to the fact that fans in Ohio tend to turn on QBs quickly, and that there are such high expectations for Carson Palmer this year that a bad year would be horrible for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I can only think of one guy who threw more than 36 TD in his second season as starter. Fox Sports really is a bunch of morons, they also have the Bengals ranked preseason 17th.As far as fans deserting Palmer, I'm hoping people have good memories of Kitna's game against the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 What a freakin retard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Well, IF the D doesn't gel as we all hope and know that they will, Carson will HAVE to throw 36 TDs and 3500 yds. About the bust part, he has already broken that and this guys a douche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Double the numbers? Hes gonna triple them this year! Hes the best QB in the NFL, he will easily break Mannings TD record! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalindian Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Hahahaha. I love this new DPM that we're seeing. Although I didn't mind the old, Rudi sucks and Corey is God DPM because he wasn't a bad guy either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who? Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Haha damn.. this is exactly like Browns fans, say anything bad about a player and everyone goes insane. Palmer will do fine this year, if he doesn't then well, I will have no respect for the man whatsoever. The supporting cast he has is wayyyy too good to not do good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShulaSteakhouse Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 yeah I don't why people get so upset when a writer doesn't agree with a fan's homer viewpoints on their team - big deal.Considering the fact this team hasn't had a winning team in 15 years and Palmer's only started 13 games in his NFL career thus far, I think he'll get more time than that before fans start turning on him. This writer seems a little unfamiliar with the team here like too many internet jockos.Coaches will get fired before Palmer is given up on that's for sure. He's got waaaay too much talent and realized potential already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Haha damn.. this is exactly like Browns fans, say anything bad about a player and everyone goes insane. Palmer will do fine this year, if he doesn't then well, I will have no respect for the man whatsoever. The supporting cast he has is wayyyy too good to not do good. The guy pretty much said that, Palmer needs to lead the NFL in TDs or else he is a bust.The is crazy, the man needs to learn to think before he writes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Joey Harrington gets 4 years of starting experience before his seat gets hot, but Palmer gets 1 year as a starter under his belt before a writer declares his seat is warm? You know, I think I'll give Carson a little longer than that before I expect Palmer to carry a team on his back or produce jaw dropping numbers. As for the new Pushy, I like it. Frankly, you've got to doubt the sincerity of his new posts as much as the old ones, but it's a breath of fresh air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I think you guys are looking at it wrong. And I do think he worded it wrong. I think he's, more or less, talking about expectations and who's got the most expected out of them. I'm not sure why he used the term 'hot seat' though, seems a little extreme.If Palmer doesn't put the Bengals into playoff contention, the rumblings that he might be a bust No. 1 pick will start in Ohio.That's a little off-base though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 As for the new Pushy, I like it. Frankly, you've got to doubt the sincerity of his new posts as much as the old ones, but it's a breath of fresh air.Rodney King, "can't we all just get along". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck3y3d Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 As far as fans deserting Palmer, I'm hoping people have good memories of Kitna's game against the Bills. I froze my a$$ off at this game, and i still don't see why Kitna gets blamed. The line practically fell apart leaving Kitna to either scramble or throw it on the run. I can think of only one bad throw by Kitna, and it was late in the second quarter. For you to blame Kitna is exactly what you write that we should avoid doing for Palmer. Kitna would probably start on 10 teams in this league, and i know he would start for that team in your city of DC. Anyway, in response to the article i think Palmer will need to show sustained growth in order have the fans/coaches happy. To say he would be a bust if this didn't happen though is absolutely ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 When one uses the term "bust", some players come to mind:WareLeafBosworthAkiliCouchMcCownSounds like another writer spending his spare $ on the pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse99t Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Was Kyle Boller on that list? Becuase he's had 2 full years as a starter, and NOBODY is going to say that he's improved much at all. If Carson's a bust, then what's that make Boller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 If Palmer is on the list, how about McNair?or Leftwich?or Eli manning?where do you draw the line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBax Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 This Czarnecki guy is an a@@!!!!!!!!!Players on the hot seat:Joey Harrington: There is no mistaking the pressure on this fourth-year starter and former first-round pick. He owns a 14-30 record as a starting quarterback, but the Lions — with three very good receivers, led by Roy Williams, and the best running back, Kevin Jones, in the NFC North — have a better offense this year. One of Harrington's problems has been the conservative offensive design of coach Steve Mariucci. He didn't allow Harrington to go downtown last season, so there's a ton of pressure on new offensive coordinator Ted Tollner to open up the playbook. There was talk about Mooch having a quick hook with Harrington this season, but backup Jeff Garcia hasn't looked that hot this summer. They should have signed Brad Johnson (who is in Minnesota now) when they had a chance.Jake Plummer: OK, it's tough replacing John Elway, but Jake is replacing Brian Griese, really, and he needs to step up and lead the Broncos to the playoffs or Mike Shanahan could go looking for a new quarterback for next season. Granted, the AFC West is a very competitive division, but none of the defenses are dominant and pass rushers are pretty rare. Jake always has a solid running game, so there are really no excuses if the Broncos don't have a winning record.Randy Moss: He may be the game's best receiver, but the Vikings have made him sound like one of the most selfish players in NFL history. He was unloaded for a measly first-round pick and a linebacker and the Raiders were the only team interested. What does that tell you? Moss may be great, but he's also a headache. Can Moss prove everyone wrong and bring the Raiders to the playoffs? Can he be a positive force and run solid routes even when he's not the primary receiver? And when the Raiders lose, will he sulk or will he fire up the troops and be a positive leader? Everyone will be watching.Kurt Warner: Can the 34-year-old veteran find the old MVP magic? Unlike his stint with the New York Giants, the Cardinals have the young offensive weapons to make Warner look good if he can stay upright and be accurate. Warner's starting record is 21 wins over .500 and with receivers Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin and runners Marcel Shipp and J.J. Arrington, he has the weapons to deliver. There are high hopes in the desert and the best thing Warner has going for him is head coach Denny Green. He knows how to build a winner.Carson Palmer: Head coach Marvin Lewis went for the USC Heisman winner and in his second season as the starter, Palmer needs to double his 18 touchdown passes of a year ago and reach 3,500 yards passing. Palmer has the supporting cast, considering running back Rudi Johnson and receiver Chad Johnson are fantasy-league favorites. If Palmer doesn't put the Bengals into playoff contention, the rumblings that he might be a bust No. 1 pick will start in Ohio. Actually, I agree with him! Do sometig Carson! Quit throwing INTS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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