whodey85 Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 I pick Madieu because he has shown the most talent. Delta is about done. Keiwan is good but not Madieu good. Quote
whodey85 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Report Posted August 24, 2005 Keiwan might have a surprising year and take over Delta. Then everyone will love Keiwan Quote
HoosierCat Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Delta is about done. How do you figure? PS...Madieu is a safety, not a CB...and where's Tory? Quote
whodey85 Posted August 24, 2005 Author Report Posted August 24, 2005 Torys an obvious choice with his pro bowl year! Quote
HoosierCat Posted August 24, 2005 Report Posted August 24, 2005 Why do I think Deltha? Well, for one thing, let's see, Keiwan hasn't proven anything and Madieu's a safety, so that leaves only 1 CB on your list. I mean, he kinda wins by default.But the bottom line is that O'Neal played very solid ball last year; his biggest issue was battling injuries, not opposing wideouts. The key thing I look for in a corner is the ability to defend the pass. That's what the whole "shutdown" thing is all about, right? Well, here ya go...http://www.nfl.com/stats/playersort/NFL/DB...1=11&_3:col_2=4That's 15 passes defensed and 4 picks in 12 games...everybody above him except Bly had 16 games to do the same. In other words, teams threw at him a lot, they thought he was a weakness, and he showed he wasn't. Had he had a full season he likely would have had 20 or so PDs and 5-6 picks.Is he the second coming of Ken Riley? No. But "done"???? I don't think so. Quote
whodey85 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Report Posted August 25, 2005 You made a good point but Keiwan could take his place this year and we would be fine Quote
turningpoint Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 wtf is the poinnt of this thread? Quote
walshfan Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 this is a stupid thread.....you have a safety and 2 corners ( one who is a backup) and left off a starter.... WTF???Oneal and James are the best.. both gamblers..take chances ..get burned occasionally.. make big plays too.....Ratliff is the nickle...more conservative at this point in his young career...good nickleback for now.....Oh by the way who is a better DT Robinson, Thornton or Justin Smith??? Quote
whodey85 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Report Posted August 25, 2005 ok,Well the question is more to see if you think Ratliff should start over Delta. Or maybe Madeiu could play corner(like earlier in the year) and someone else could play safety. Also just so you know your question is just like mine a DE and 2 DT! Know it all!!!! Quote
walshfan Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Mine question was meant as a pun to yours... and Im sorry for calling your post stupid.. Im the stupid one for not realizing what your question was ....sorry... Quote
whodey85 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Report Posted August 25, 2005 Well do you think Keiwan should replace Delta? Quote
walshfan Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 At this point in time NO.... Deltha is a gifted athlete...he knows the corner spot and what to expect from receivers due to his experience of being a wideout at one time.. He gambles as James does.. They make things happen... and just what happens when you gamble alot... sometimes you give up big plays but on the flipside you make alot of interceptions and passes deflected too.. Personally I like their style of play.. Ratlilff is more conservative at this point... He has great instincts dating back to his high school ( Columbus, Ohio) and collage days.. Every coach who's had him has expressed this about him... He's insurance right now in case of injury and a good nickleback.... Quote
whodey85 Posted August 25, 2005 Author Report Posted August 25, 2005 What about Kim Herring he needs to be out of here once we find a replacement for him Quote
JPW Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Delta is about done.Huh ?Delta is like 28 years old ... Quote
ackley1 Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 I pick Madieu because he has shown the most talent. Delta is about done. Keiwan is good but not Madieu good. deltha is about done? i think he still has a few good years in him. he played pretty well last year, and from what i've seen this preseason he looked good. Quote
7/11 Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 i think stealtha is still a good corner. ratliff looks very promising, in my opinion. he is a lot quicker than people give him credit for. he has great instincts, but gambles like dealtha. he's a playmeker and he's honestly one of the surest tacklers on our defense. eventually, he will pass either tory or o'neal. it's hard to say when b/c we do have two good veteran corners, but by the second half of the season, ratliff should be too good to keep off the field. Quote
DC_Bengals_Fan Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Why do I think Deltha? Well, for one thing, let's see, Keiwan hasn't proven anything and Madieu's a safety, so that leaves only 1 CB on your list. I mean, he kinda wins by default.But the bottom line is that O'Neal played very solid ball last year; his biggest issue was battling injuries, not opposing wideouts. The key thing I look for in a corner is the ability to defend the pass. That's what the whole "shutdown" thing is all about, right? Well, here ya go... To me, a shutdown corner is the guy who doesn't have many passes defensed because opposing teams never throw his way. Deltha is a gambler - when teams throw his way, either it's a long completion or he gets his hands on the ball. Quote
ackley1 Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 tory's not the greatest (kinda slow), but he finds a way to be at the right place at the time a lot. Quote
derekshank Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Madieu will probably be one of the best FS in the game, so no... he should not start over Deltha at a different position.Many believe that Deltha is the best athlete on the team. That coupled with the stats Joisey put up shows that he deserves to be on the field. Does he give up big plays sometimes... sure, but so does Tory... and pretty much every CB that goes for INT's instead of being really conservative.Ratliff is very young, and hasn't shown he's ready to take over the #2 spot yet. Maybe after getting some reps at nickle he'll show some readiness to take a starter spot.Tory James is 32, I see his days being more numbered than Deltha's. Next year, or the year after, James will either be the nickle, or not in stripes. Just my opinion though. I think Deltha still has his best years in front of him, so depending on future drafts, we could see Deltha and Ratliff as our CB's in the near future. Quote
ackley1 Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 Madieu will probably be one of the best FS in the game, so no... he should not start over Deltha at a different position.Many believe that Deltha is the best athlete on the team. That coupled with the stats Joisey put up shows that he deserves to be on the field. Does he give up big plays sometimes... sure, but so does Tory... and pretty much every CB that goes for INT's instead of being really conservative.Ratliff is very young, and hasn't shown he's ready to take over the #2 spot yet. Maybe after getting some reps at nickle he'll show some readiness to take a starter spot.Tory James is 32, I see his days being more numbered than Deltha's. Next year, or the year after, James will either be the nickle, or not in stripes. Just my opinion though. I think Deltha still has his best years in front of him, so depending on future drafts, we could see Deltha and Ratliff as our CB's in the near future. agreed. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 25, 2005 Report Posted August 25, 2005 I picked Madieu, because of those names on the list, only one is on the Bengals roster. FANS DONT LET FANS TOTALLY BUTCHER PLAYERS NAMES UNLESS THEY ARE KEVIN KAESVIHARN OR TJ ALPHABET! Quote
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