walzav29 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Do you think Marvin is the kind of coach that.A. Is going to run his offense and the defense knows what it is, but just try and stop it?B. Change the offense to attack the weakness of the defense?After watching Perry look pretty impressive last week, and being optimistic that Warrick will return healthy. It seems that we can line up anyway we want. Finesse, Power, 4 receiver run and shoot, whatever. It seems the Patriots play to a team's weakness. Grind it out against the Colts, and Wide Open against the Steelers. I hope they are creative, because man-o-man are the Bengals loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Marvin has little to do with the offense. Bratkowski is in charge of that, and he is going to run his offense, tweaking it for each defense, and dare them to try to stop it. Marvin is concentrating on the defense this year, and overall head coaching decisions. He's going to let Brat have a long leash and see if he hangs himself with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walzav29 Posted August 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Same question applies for Brat then. Is he the kind of guy that will take advantage of the defense's weakness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I don't see taht happening, with Brat changing sets. At least nothing very dramaticIn today's NFL I think the coach is more delegator tahn anything. Unless problems occur, I don't see marvin sticking his nose tooo much into the defense either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I don't see taht happening, with Brat changing sets. At least nothing very dramaticIn today's NFL I think the coach is more delegator tahn anything. Unless problems occur, I don't see marvin sticking his nose tooo much into the defense either. Marvin IS putting his nose in. He is personally taking Odell Thurman on as a project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsbengalsbucks Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I think Marvin is the kind of coach that will give his subordinates freedom to do thier thing untill it is harming the team, he will then take over and do something about it.I hope he is the kind of coach that will take the Bengals back to the big game. I miss the playoffs meaning something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrandom42 Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 Same question applies for Brat then. Is he the kind of guy that will take advantage of the defense's weakness? Remember all those U of Miami powerhouse offenses in the early 90's? That was all the doing of Bratkowski working under Dennis Erickson. I have little doubt that once execution problems are taken care of, the Bengals offense will be both productive and flexible. Personally, I'd like to see some of the 3WR 1Back sets that made Miami so dangerous back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJesus Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 what kind of Coach is Marvin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 The kinda coach I don't want to leave Cincy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingwilly Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I do not put tremendous faith in brat attacking the weakness of another teams D. He seems to react situationally, down and distance versus the line-up of the other team. It seems to me that he gameplans for the strength of his line-up and challenges them to beat whatever D they oppose. I think he would do well to exploit flaws, tendencies, weaknesses of opposing teams. I agree that the Patriots do quite well at that. Case in point, the first Patriot game of last year: First 8 plays the Patriots run are pass plays and CD does not see the field till the second possession. Everyone was expecting CD to get the ball right away...he did not take a snap until the second possession. They worked the Colts D perfectly.Would Brat do that??? no way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted August 17, 2005 Report Share Posted August 17, 2005 I do not put tremendous faith in brat attacking the weakness of another teams D. He seems to react situationally, down and distance versus the line-up of the other team. It seems to me that he gameplans for the strength of his line-up and challenges them to beat whatever D they oppose. I think he would do well to exploit flaws, tendencies, weaknesses of opposing teams. I agree that the Patriots do quite well at that. Case in point, the first Patriot game of last year: First 8 plays the Patriots run are pass plays and CD does not see the field till the second possession. Everyone was expecting CD to get the ball right away...he did not take a snap until the second possession. They worked the Colts D perfectly.Would Brat do that??? no way. Yeah, Brat would let Rudi run a couple of times and if he didn't get first downs on either, he'd abandon the run for the rest of the qtr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Do you think Marvin is the kind of coach that.A. Is going to run his offense and the defense knows what it is, but just try and stop it?B. Change the offense to attack the weakness of the defense? Put me down for a very hard B. Responding to a question about why the Bengals had so much offensive success against the Patriots Marvin said the key was allowing the QB to audible into a play too late for the Patriots defense to adjust. With that in mind I'd say that any head coach who allows a young QB to audible into his choice of several play options while facing one of the top defenses in the NFL is remarkably flexible. It shows an uncommon level of trust in Palmer as well as recognition that you can't send a young QB against a top defense and simply tell him to run the play called from the sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantStop85 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 If Marvin Lewis has anything much to do with offensive playcalling this season, that's a very bad sign. The only way he is going to get very involved with the offense is if Bratowski's offense just starts stinking it up like Leslie Frazier's defense did. Very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Gimme a break. Do you really think a defensive minded head coach knows nothing about play calling or offensive football? They've said from day one that Marvin is fully involved in putting together the offensive gameplan, that he doesn't limit his input to coaching defensive players, and when he's been miked up on the sidelines you can actually hear him call offensive plays. For example, listen some time to his remarks to Peter Warrick right before P-Dub put a dagger in the Chiefs heart a couple of seasons ago. He's not just pumping Pete up, he's calling his number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stripes Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 I can't imagine any head coach being completely uninvolved with either side of the ball. Mike Martz understands defensive schemes. Bill Bellichick calls plays for the offense on occassion. The list goes on. I don't think Marvin would have gotten the job if he didn't display enough semblance of offensive knowlege to show he can run both parts of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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