BENGAL Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 With P-Dub back...who makes it? Walter looked fantastic Friday night...K Wash disapointing...Henry looked good...no one else stuch out...I'd say the 6 that stick will be... ChadTJHenryP DubzWalterWashingtonT Perry=PSThoughts???? Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 Pdub will not make the team.Chad, TJ, Kelly Washington, Chris Henry, Kevin Walter, and Tab Perry will. Quote
cHaD711Johnson Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 Pdub will not make the team.Chad, TJ, Kelly Washington, Chris Henry, Kevin Walter, and Tab Perry will.Pdub will def make the team..You have a strong dislike for him..He will be our #2 receiver by midseasonChad, Pdub, Housh, KWash, Henry and Walters Quote
Stripes Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 I say it'll be, in this order: CJ, TJ, K-Dub, Henry, Walter, Russell Quote
CantStop85 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 CJ, TJ, Warrick, Washington, Henry, Walter Quote
DontTakeAkili Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 My guess is that the six (in order) will beChad, TJ, Henry, Washington, Walter, Tab PerryIt's a shame about P-Dub, but I don't think he serves a role on the team. If all he could do before was catch slants in the slot, make a guy miss, and get down, and now he may have lost a step, what can he offer?When he was a 100%, he wasn't big, fast, or blessed with amazing hands. I mean, if the best description you get is shifty or sneaky-fast, it doesn't say a lot about you.Chad is all-world. TJ and Walter are great (ok, good) possession receivers, Henry and Washington have the potential to be a 1-2 tandem some day, and Perry will be a special teams star. Quote
IckeyShuffle Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 you guys are missing cliff russell in all of this. Marvin loves his speed and size and did a pretty good job returning kickoffs on Friday night. Now that they have activated Pdub, his salary is in the books so he'll make the team or a trade. I don't see how they can cut either walter or russell cuz of special teams play so a trade is the only thing that makes sense. Pdub and Washington are the most logical trade baits. Might go like this:ChadHoushPdub/Washington (whichever one isn't traded by game 1)HenryRussell WalterPerry on practice squad. Too bad Brousard lacks size cuz he has the speed and moves. Quote
Kazkal Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 Perry on practice squad will = him goneRussel did a good job on kickoffs but so did everyone he just got the most trys.Perry got 24/25 yards? on his first kick off? I say he deserves a better shot you guys are just ruling him out because he's a 6th round pick don't forget we pi cked TJ up in the 7thI say it will beCJ,TJ,Pdub,Hdub,CH,Tab Quote
ArmyBengal Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 I know we have to take into consideration the Special Teams squad (I think we have a good one) but the only way both Walter and Russel make this team is if they keep 7 instead of 6 WR's or a trade is made in regards to K-Wash or one of the others, but still only see one of them making it either way...Chad, TJ, P-Dub, K-Wash, Henry, Walter (No trade made) (Add Perry if keeping 7)Chad, TJ, P-Dub, Henry, Walter, Perry (Trade made) (Maybe Russel if keeping 7)Just my two cents...WHODEY !!! Quote
Irish Bengal Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 Chad, TJ, Washington, PDub,Henry,Russell, Perry they keep seven. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 Pdub will not make the team.Chad, TJ, Kelly Washington, Chris Henry, Kevin Walter, and Tab Perry will.Pdub will def make the team..You He will be our #2 receiver by midseason If Pdub is our #2 receiver by midseason, we are in trouble. He's not worth the 2 million he is due to be paid. He had one good season and a whole bunch of junk. Quote
bengalboomer7 Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 No one ever mentions who's been throwing them the ball. Warrick has Never, ever, had anyone decent throwing it to him, and don't say Kitna, either. I think if Warrick is healthy, he is a more talented player tahn TJ. That doesn't mean he's better on the field cause that involves variables like toughness, durablility, etc. But warrick is the more explosive player, the better blocking WR, and the better third down reciever. So why couldn't he upstage TJ for the #2.In other words, count me as another one who thinks he has a chance to be #2 Quote
walshfan Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 Pdub will not make the team.Chad, TJ, Kelly Washington, Chris Henry, Kevin Walter, and Tab Perry will.Pdub will def make the team..You He will be our #2 receiver by midseason If Pdub is our #2 receiver by midseason, we are in trouble. He's not worth the 2 million he is due to be paid. He had one good season and a whole bunch of junk. No wonder noone takes your posts seriously... first your saying who the 6 will be when they havent even given all of them a chance in preseason to win the last two spots.. Then you say Warrick isnt worth the money.. By the way, is it your money?I think Marvin wanted Warrick because he thinks he can contribute by catching and blocking...... Quote
cincyhokie Posted August 15, 2005 Report Posted August 15, 2005 Peter Warrick when healthy is arguably one of the most important parts of this offense. He is the perfect complement to CJ and he is a great blocker. In 2003, he was the clutch player on this team.I'm still waiting for Kelly Washington to show what he can do...CJTJWarrickHenryTab PerryKevin WalterIf ANY of the recievers get put on the PS, they will be GONE before the season starts, no question. The NFL is thin on receiving talent, like MLB is thin on pitching.I like Broussard too, I am hoping the team can find a spot for him....he's got alot of upside in my opinion. Quote
DontTakeAkili Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 Guys, I love the Bengals as much as anyone. But it's time to admit that Warrick was a mistake pick. Forget everything about his college career and where he was drafted. Would he make the team? No. The potential is gone. It may have never been there. He was a great college player - like Demond Howard, Andre Ware, and Rashan Salaam - but he is a mediorce receiver living off his college reputation.Its time to cut bait on him. We missed a pick. It's OK. Let's get over it and move on.And I agree with two points - put Tab Perry on the Pratice Squad and he is gone and Cliff Russell SHOULD make this team. He wont because the Bengals envision Perry as Russell+hands in the passing game. Quote
cincyhokie Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 Guys, I love the Bengals as much as anyone. But it's time to admit that Warrick was a mistake pick. Forget everything about his college career and where he was drafted. Would he make the team? No. The potential is gone. It may have never been there. He was a great college player - like Demond Howard, Andre Ware, and Rashan Salaam - but he is a mediorce receiver living off his college reputation.Its time to cut bait on him. We missed a pick. It's OK. Let's get over it and move on.And I agree with two points - put Tab Perry on the Pratice Squad and he is gone and Cliff Russell SHOULD make this team. He wont because the Bengals envision Perry as Russell+hands in the passing game. What did Warrick have in his last healthy year in 2003?1. A competent offense2. 10 TDs3. 800 plus yards4. MVP against 9-0 ChiefsHow is he a mistake pick? Because he hurt himself worse by coming back early from surgery to try and help this team make the playoffs?Let's watch Warrick in the next few games to see if he is a mistake. Quote
ackley1 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 walter did look good but i don't think he has much of a chance. hopefully washington steps it up this week. henry should've had 2 td's in that game. he's going to be pretty good. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 What did Warrick have in his last healthy year in 2003?1. A competent offense2. 10 TDs3. 800 plus yards4. MVP against 9-0 ChiefsHow is he a mistake pick? Because he hurt himself worse by coming back early from surgery to try and help this team make the playoffs?Let's watch Warrick in the next few games to see if he is a mistake. What did Warrick have in the 3 years before he finally had one good year?1. The number one receiver slot.2. Noone else worth throwing to taking passes away from him.3. A pounding running game.4. 1865 TOTAL yards in 3 years5. 11 Total TDsOh, and in 2003, he didn't have 10 TDs. He caught 7 passes for touchdowns, and ran one kick back for a touchdown.A first round, number four overall pick should not be praised because he earned MVP ONCE because they had a 100 yard receiving game and scored two TDs in the same game. A first round, number four overall pick should be having these kind of games EVERY WEEK. Quote
Black'n'Orange Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 Washington is gone......Chad, TJ, Warrick, Walter, Henry, Perry.Was not impressed with the play of Henry Quote
cincyhokie Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 What did Warrick have in the 3 years before he finally had one good year?1. The number one receiver slot.2. Noone else worth throwing to taking passes away from him.3. A pounding running game.4. 1865 TOTAL yards in 3 years5. 11 Total TDsOh, and in 2003, he didn't have 10 TDs. He caught 7 passes for touchdowns, and ran one kick back for a touchdown.A first round, number four overall pick should not be praised because he earned MVP ONCE because they had a 100 yard receiving game and scored two TDs in the same game. A first round, number four overall pick should be having these kind of games EVERY WEEK. Yeah, the likes of Frerotte, LeBeau, the overall hapless football team, it's all conducive to career years....WHO did have a good season before Lewis got here? Corey Dillion that's it.You'd rather keep Kelly Washington who has showed nothing over Warrick who has at least showed something. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 What did Warrick have in the 3 years before he finally had one good year?1. The number one receiver slot.2. Noone else worth throwing to taking passes away from him.3. A pounding running game.4. 1865 TOTAL yards in 3 years5. 11 Total TDsOh, and in 2003, he didn't have 10 TDs. He caught 7 passes for touchdowns, and ran one kick back for a touchdown.A first round, number four overall pick should not be praised because he earned MVP ONCE because they had a 100 yard receiving game and scored two TDs in the same game. A first round, number four overall pick should be having these kind of games EVERY WEEK.Yeah, the likes of Frerotte, LeBeau, the overall hapless football team, it's all conducive to career years....WHO did have a good season before Lewis got here? Corey Dillion that's it.You'd rather keep Kelly Washington who has showed nothing over Warrick who has at least showed something. Washington isn't slated to make $2.2 million.Washington hasn't had the opportunities to shine like Warrick did.Warrick was supposed to be a player who could change things around here by being good enough to be a stud wide receiver. He wasn't. Chad Johnson, on the other hand is. Quote
cincyhokie Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 When did Chad break out?2003.When did Warrick break out?2003.When was the last time Warrick played healthy?2003.When was the first year in a LONG time this team didn't suck completely?2003.One of the reasons Chad had a good year was because of Warrick in 2003. Housh helped Chad in 2004. It goes the other way too. Chad helped Warrick and Housh.Washington COULD have stepped up in 2004, instead it was Housh. Quote
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 When did Chad break out?2003.When did Warrick break out?2003.When was the last time Warrick played healthy?2003.When was the first year in a LONG time this team didn't suck completely?2003. Any receiver could have broken out in 2003. Warrick just happened to be there. Quote
bengalindian Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 Chad, TO, Harrison, Moss....In that order. The Bengals will have no one left on the team, because everyone would have been traded away. Quote
JohnsonX5 Posted August 16, 2005 Report Posted August 16, 2005 Guys, I love the Bengals as much as anyone. But it's time to admit that Warrick was a mistake pick. Forget everything about his college career and where he was drafted. Would he make the team? No. The potential is gone. It may have never been there. He was a great college player - like Demond Howard, Andre Ware, and Rashan Salaam - but he is a mediorce receiver living off his college reputation.Its time to cut bait on him. We missed a pick. It's OK. Let's get over it and move on.You might be right about one thing: Warrick was a mistake pick. We could have had Julian Peterson, Keith Bullock, Corey Simon, Shaun Alexander... Hell, we could have even drafted Brady if we had the cajones. I've been as disappointed as the next guy with how our fourth overall pick has produced, but there is no way anyone can convince me that Warrick is merely a mediocre receiver. This may sound kind of stupid but I think what separates Warrick from other receivers is that P-dub seems to possess an uncanny sense of balance. A play that most comes to mind was against undefeated KC, I think it was the first play of our drive, second-half (?), play-action, Kitna throws long over the middle to Warrick who is then hit by the safety, yet somehow keeps his balance while spinning and then takes off for the endzone. I can remember seeing a whole bunch of other times where Warrick takes a hit that would knock any normal receiver down, yet somehow Warrick maintains his feet and keep the play alive. When the ball's in P-dub's hands, good things happen. This is no mediocre receiver. A healthy 03 version of Warrick is the second-best receiver on our team, in my opinion, and will make our offense that much better. Quote
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