the big 3

[wafflehouse-7/11]

yes we all know about the big 3 known as troy aikman emmitt smith and michael irvin. But is it possible we can compare our big 3 to be just as good as them Carson Palmer Rudi Johnson and Chad Johnson?

[Stripes]

No.

They won three superobwls together.

Emmitt Smith is the all time leading rusher in NFL history, and is a lock for the Hall of Fame.

Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin will likely both be in the Hall of Fame in the near future.

Our trio has done absolutely nothing as of yet to deserve any comparison with that trio. Perhaps in the future, that will be warranted, and I hope so, but once again, to answer your question:

No.

[wafflehouse-7/11]

yeah your right with those the reason i posted this was palmer looked better than aikman his first year palmer won 6 games(missed the last 2 wins) his first year playing and aikman went 2-14.

[Stripes]

As far as first seasons go, I'm not sure, because I don't know how well the Cowboy trio played in their first full season together. Nonetheless, I think our Bengals have a very long way to go before deserving any comparisons to a team as good as the Cowboys were in the '90s.

[CantStop85]

yes we all know about the big 3 known as troy aikman emmitt smith and michael irvin. But is it possible we can compare our big 3 to be just as good as them Carson Palmer Rudi Johnson and Chad Johnson?

There's no way you can compare them...yet.

[Spain]

Palmer compares to Troy and Chad is better than Irvin. However Rudi is way out of his leauge and cant be compared to Emmit! Thats why they drafted Perry and sorry but he looks damn good!

[walshfan]

Id like to compare our offense to Indy's now.... I think we can be a high octane powerhouse offensively if Palmer looks over the field more and not concentrate solely on Johnson every play and then dump off he he's not open... Manning uses all his receivers that way hence 3 thousand yarders last season....

[redsbengalsbucks]

Palmer compares to Troy and Chad is better than Irvin. However Rudi is way out of his leauge and cant be compared to Emmit! Thats why they drafted Perry and sorry but he looks damn good!

Perry looked good, but RUDI looked better against the first team running the ball. Healthy Perry is a great change of pace back but he is not a workhorse NFL type. He is going to have games this season where he out rushes RUDI, he is almost always going to have more recieving yards, but the Bengals o-line is built for a power running game and Perry is not. I can't wait to see some two Back sets with RUDI and Perry, this will finally give Palmer a outlet pass that has breakaway speed and hands to catch the ball. Perry looks better than I ever expected (I was against the pick) he looks like he will give the offense a new weapon.

[joshh967]

Yea, perry did look pretty good...But theres no way i would ever just drop rudi like that. Chris perry is goign to have to do a lot more

[WhoDey93285]

I honestly don't see all the hype of Perry rushing the ball. He averaged less than 4 yards a carry agaisnt backups. Yeah he made a few good moves in the backfield, but Rudi averaged over 6 against the starters. I'd still take Rudi over Perry. The only thing that Perry looked really good at was recieving. and he looked damn good recieving the ball. I'm very excited for the season when I can see him lining up at reciver.

[CantStop85]

I'm very excited for the season when I can see him lining up at reciver.

Lining up at receiver?

How about catching out of the backfield instead?

[WhoDey93285]

I'm very excited for the season when I can see him lining up at reciver.

Lining up at receiver?

How about catching out of the backfield instead?

Personally, I think he'd be great lining up in the slot over once in awhile. He's great at running routes. Catching out of the back field is probably what I should of said, since that's what he's going to be doing most.

[DontPushMe]

I honestly don't see all the hype of Perry rushing the ball. He averaged less than 4 yards a carry agaisnt backups. Yeah he made a few good moves in the backfield, but Rudi averaged over 6 against the starters. I'd still take Rudi over Perry.

Because you are a fool. Ya, he was playing against backups, but he was also playing WITH backups. He had a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string offensive linemen who consistently let d linemen and linebackers into the backfeild, no deep threat at QB, and inexperienced WRs. All against the backups of the deepest team in the NFL. His situation was a disadvantage to his stats, not an advantage. He looked way better then RJ both running and receiving. Id be suprised if Rudi's feeble hold on the starting RB job lasts past week 6.

[derekshank]

I honestly don't see all the hype of Perry rushing the ball. He averaged less than 4 yards a carry agaisnt backups. Yeah he made a few good moves in the backfield, but Rudi averaged over 6 against the starters. I'd still take Rudi over Perry.

Because you are a fool. Ya, he was playing against backups, but he was also playing WITH backups. He had a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string offensive linemen who consistently let d linemen and linebackers into the backfeild, no deep threat at QB, and inexperienced WRs. All against the backups of the deepest team in the NFL. His situation was a disadvantage to his stats, not an advantage. He looked way better then RJ both running and receiving. Id be suprised if Rudi's feeble hold on the starting RB job lasts past week 6.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know that Perry was playing both against and with 2nd stringers. Somewhat similar to the equivalent of playing college ball, which we all know he was very good at. So the only news on Perry I got really pumped about was that he was back. I'd like to see Perry do something we haven't seen from him yet (something he hasn't had the opportunity to do), is succeed against the 1st team defense.

He's playing well again, similar to what we were hoping for when he came out of college, but we still haven't seen him play with or against the real NFL for any length of time. When he starts getting some real playing time ahead of Rudi, then we can start talking about Rudi losing his job.

In either case, I'll be happy, because ML will do what is best for the team. He's not going to put someone out there because anyone here wants to see him. If he's ready to be the main back... good. If he's a 3rd down back... good. If they both get equal playing time because they are both so good that ML uses them based on the situation... Great!

[derekshank]

P.S. Chad is not better than Irvin yet. When interviewed, defenders always thought that Irvin was the best player on the field, and that is with a lock for the hall of fame Emmitt Smith in the game.

Seems like a conversation for the bored though... something Mike and Mike in the morning talks about when there is no sports news to report. Completely irrelevant to being great team. Who have been the Patriots big 3? How do they complare to Indy's big 3, and who always wins the game?

Frankly, I'd rather have a great QB, several really good WR's and two very good RB's.... it is a team sport after all. Who needs a "big 3"?

[Stripes]

I honestly don't see all the hype of Perry rushing the ball. He averaged less than 4 yards a carry agaisnt backups. Yeah he made a few good moves in the backfield, but Rudi averaged over 6 against the starters. I'd still take Rudi over Perry.

Because you are a fool. Ya, he was playing against backups, but he was also playing WITH backups. He had a bunch of 2nd and 3rd string offensive linemen who consistently let d linemen and linebackers into the backfeild, no deep threat at QB, and inexperienced WRs. All against the backups of the deepest team in the NFL. His situation was a disadvantage to his stats, not an advantage. He looked way better then RJ both running and receiving. Id be suprised if Rudi's feeble hold on the starting RB job lasts past week 6.

I agree. Rudi's hold on the starting spot is so feeble that the Bengals did NOT just sign him to a huge long term deal. His hold is so feeble that he did NOT just break the team's all time record. His hold is so feeble that he did NOT finish 6th in the NFL in yardage and among leaders in TDs. You, mister Don't Push Me, are a classic example of what my people call a "goofball." Haven't you exhausted this debate enough? Pull for Bengals success, not for Perry success.

[LesterLyles]

Are you kidding with this thread? Guys I root for Cincy, in fact i came here to reinforce that I think the Bengals can make some noise this year and that pre-season means nothing...and I see this ridiculous post. The answer is NO WAY!!

[walshfan]

I honestly don't see all the hype of Perry rushing the ball. He averaged less than 4 yards a carry agaisnt backups. Yeah he made a few good moves in the backfield, but Rudi averaged over 6 against the starters. I'd still take Rudi over Perry. The only thing that Perry looked really good at was recieving. and he looked damn good recieving the ball. I'm very excited for the season when I can see him lining up at reciver.

Your post made me laugh... Its the first preseason game where stats arent really important.. Its all about timing, technique and stamina building right now and your spewing about what their averages were.. the main thing is he's healthy and showed some moves and is building endurance....some of your people never get it.