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Neither of those teams will be in the super bowl and you know that, by the way, nice Cleveland avatar you have going on there Broome!

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Neither of those teams will be in the super bowl and you know that, by the way, nice Cleveland avatar you have going on there Broome!

Chris Farley is now a "Cleveland Avatar?" You must have him mistaken for Drew Carey. KNOW YOUR COMEDIENS!!

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Billy, I keep hearing about how good the Cards will be this year as well as Detroit. I am more familiar with the Lions situation but can you clue me in on the Cards. I know of Marcel Shipp and Larry Fitzgerald but not much else. Is McCown still their QB?

I know I've been under a rock but we just don't see them around here too much.

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Kurt Warner is now their QB for the moment, as for Shipp they drafted JJ Arrington to take his spot I believe.

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The Cards have a very underrated receiving trio.

Anquan Boldin broke some kind of rookie receiving record his first year, but he was injury plagued last season. Fitzgerald and B. Johnson are also pretty good

They signed Kurt Warner and he will start this season out there.

On Defense they have a real good Safety in Adrian Wilson

They just drafted Antrel Rolle

And they have an up and coming Karlos Dansby.

Bertrand Berry had 14.5 sacks last season

This is what I do know, watching them play a couple of games last season, they have a real good young defense. Their offense lacked a decent running game last season and consistency from the QB position. They are in a very winnable division and can make some noise if Kurt Warner can give them stability and the rookie J. J. Arrington may provide them with the running punch they need.

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Between the two Marvin is by far the best dresser! The man knows his threads!  B)

:lol:

You know what BB, I don't see it happening. IMO the AFC is just too tough for the Bengals to advance this year. I hope I'm wrong. I'm probably not though.

And the Cardinals? I wouldn't rule out the playoffs, just because the NFC has been so bad lately, the NFC West in particular...but the Cardinals were sooooo weak last year, I have no idea what anyone sees in them to get them the hype they've had this offseason.

Consider this - injuries and wins are highly correlated. More often than not, a team with fewer injuries over the course of the year is going to be better than a team with more injuries. Its just common sense. But how much does it matter?...

Top 11 teams in games lost to injury: 108-68, 7 teams made playoffs

Middle 10 teams: 93-67, 5 teams made playoffs

Bottom 11 teams: 57-119, 0 playoff teams

As you can see, it matters a lot. How does this relate to the Cardinals? They lost the fewest starter games to injury of any team in the league and yet still compiled a 6-10 record...in a weak conference, in the league's weakest division. To me, that screams there is a lack of talent on that team. And one offseason, consisting mostly of Kurt Warner and a couple rookies, are going to change that? Doubt it.

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You have the Eagles, Vikings and Panthers. Then who? Really? We got that much strength in the AFC North alone. :rolleyes:

Yup. The way I see it, the Steelers, Ravens, or Bengals could win any division in the NFC...save perhaps the NFC East, because the Eagles are pretty tough. Either way, some pretty good teams in the AFC are going to be staying home next year, while perhaps another 8-8 team makes it in the NFC again. Its a shame, but the reverse was true for many years...I remember the days when the 3rd place team in the NFC East was better than any team in the AFC.

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