Ickey44 Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 The center doesn't get the ball to where it needs to go. The quarterback does. The quarterback is basically a coach on the field. He has to direct traffic, and let people know what they did wrong. But, football is also a team sport. If one part doesn't work, none of it does. So it's really hard to say definately which one is more important than the other. I say they're all important.Excuse me? If the center doesn't get the ball to where it needs to go, they call it a busted play. There are plays in the NFL that don't use the QB at all. You can directly snap the ball to the running back. However, there are NO plays where the center doesn't touch the ball. Without the center, the QB is dead. The QB is a coach on the field? His job is to call the play that his coach gives him via headset. It's not like it used to be where the QB called all the plays at the line. There are still audibles, but the QB only calls the play about 10% of the time. He does direct his backfield and receivers, 4 people, telling them where to go. (RB, FB, WR, WR). The center, on the other hand, directs blocking schemes, telling his two tackles, his tight end, and his two guards what to do and who to block.Dream on if you think QB is so crucial. IF it's so important, why are there so many QBs in the league whos only job is to NOT LOSE the game for their team? If you can find me one center in the league who can't get the ball to the quarterback, then I'll concede your point. It's not the center's ability to get the ball to the quarterback that makes him important. Anyone who can't do that isn't in any league. Period. The center doesn't make the play happen, the quarterback does. However, if the o-line doesn't block, the quarterback doesn't get a chance to do anything. Hence, I think this debate is ludicrous. There's not one position more important than the other. It takes all eleven positions on each side of the ball working together to make a winning team. If your definition of the word "coach" is "one who calls the plays", then who are all those people standing on the sideline every Sunday calling themselves coaches. Coaches teach, direct, and call people out when they make mistakes. Which is what a good quarterback does on the field in between plays when they don't get a chance to run over to the sideline for that to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 The most important position in football? Well, to quote Sinatra...."Cue-be-doobie-doo." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 cheerleader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 "Cue-be-doobie-doo." I'm scratching myself (and liking it) trying to figure how this could possibly not be the most important position. In fact, QB is probably the single most important position that anyone in any sport has to play. The only comparison is probably a pitcher in baseball, but that's only if the same player pitched every game.The QB has to verbalize, orchestrate, yell to start, receive, elude, and deliver on every single play. Most positions you have to do maybe one thing...block...or 2 things, tackle and cover.Not only is it the most important but the most difficult. They need there own coach. Never does more than one of them play at a time, yet they need there own coach.When you think of a team, the first question you ask when evaluating them is...who is there quarterback? He's the principle key to winning and losing, thus, the most important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBin2k7 Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 I think where this thread was off to start was when it tried to compare the QB position to the whole o-line or d-line. As a singular position the qb is above and beyond the most important position, but my point is that the QB would not be able to function without a good offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottishbengal Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 The most important position for me is either in the club level on the 50 yard line, or sat on my sofa infront of the TV, beer in hand!That is unless Not Another comes around and then positions could be altered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 In fact, QB is probably the single most important position that anyone in any sport has to play. I'd say racecar driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jditty47 Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 In fact, QB is probably the single most important position that anyone in any sport has to play.I'd say racecar driver. we aren't talking stupidest, pointless, or boringest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 Perhaps we're all looking at this thing the wrong way. Maybe the most important postion on any team differs from team to team and from day to day depending on ever changing circumstances. Example: Chris Perry is currently as worthless as the 3rd teat on a boar hog, but if Pro Bowl RB Rudi Johnson were to go down with a serious injury then the most important player on the Bengals roster might very rapidly be whoever is listed as Chris Perry's backup. Because the moment Rudi goes down in a heap...Perry's backup will immediately leapfrog him on the depth chart and become the all-important defacto starter at RB. Don't assume I'm joking about this....although it's a good bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messenger Guard Posted July 7, 2005 Report Share Posted July 7, 2005 While I say QB I remember Paul Brown making Bob Johnson, a center, the first ever Bengal draft pick and saying every play starts with the center. However, watching how he and Mike Brown keep drafting QBs from Greg Cook on I think they would come down on the QB as most important. And I can't remember the last time I used Mike Brown to back up a football point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losersaywha Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Its the QBDUH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlainThePain Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Its definantly the QB. Even on a team built around defense and the run game, you still have to have a smart QB to run the offense and not make mistakes. If the Ravens would have had a rookie QB instead of Dilfer they probably wouldn't have won the super bowl that year. If Drew Bledsoe would have remained starting QB instead of Tom Brady they probably never would have won any of those three super bowls and Bellichick would have probably been fired by now instead of being known as a genius. If Peyton Manning went down in the first game of the season, the Colts would be picking number 1 overall instead of going deep into the playoffs. Lets not forget that if the 49ers didn't have Joe Montana the Bengals would have won a super bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimington over Marino Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 I agree that a good o-line is key to how good a QB and thus the other skill players can be. But the decisions of a QB can make or break the team he is playing for. Best example of the difference that a QB can make is Tony Banks - Trent Dilfer. No way Ravens make the Super Bowl with Banks @ QB. All teams are only as good as the QB. A QB is only as good as the team around him but he is the key.How many Super Bowls has Denver been in since Elway retired? Although he lost a few til he had Terrel Davis. Best case of a good team making a good QB great is Joe Montana. How many Super Bowls was Montana in with KC? He only won 4 with the Niners. Out of how many years? Did he suck the years they didn't win ? How many games did our Bengals win with Blake in 97 compared to Boomer? Someone mentioned Manning, how many games would the Colts win without Manning? Green Bay without Favre is probably crap. I may have repeated some of what others said but I hope I made my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Lets not forget that if the 49ers didn't have Joe Montana the Bengals would have won a super bowl. Just one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 Here's a recap of the voting. 71% think QB is the most important position in football while another 21% of the voters were unable to figure out that O-Line isn't actually a position. Let's shut it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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