Manuel Meeting with Marvin

[Kazkal]

You mean 4th rounder?(we would need to use a 4th to beat the dolphins)

Marvin probbley figured he can just grab a DT out of next years draft /cough ngata.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

If not Ngata, perhaps the other Wright... the GOOD one...

[DontPushMe]

ESPN said the same thing that Wright went in the Fifth to the Dolphins.

Apparently Marvin wasn't to high on Wright if he didn't even spend a fifth rounder on him.

Mike Brown is our General Manager and makes those decisions.

[GROIIIDayton]

Marvin has a lot of say when it comes to drafting on defense, if not mike would have probably taken him in round two. Marvin must have said that we don't have time for this guy.

[DontPushMe]

Marvin has a lot of say when it comes to drafting on defense, if not mike would have probably taken him in round two. Marvin must have said that we don't have time for this guy.

No, this is an image fans like to put on the situation to make them feel better. No one has every said that Marvin Lewis makes personel decisions. He makes SUGGESTIONS, but in the end its up to Mike Brown. So rediculous that Brown takes the heat for 14 years from bengal fans for bad management, then the second the team starts to improve, fans want to give that credit to the coach.

[bengal4life]

Do you have info. stateing that Marvin doesn't make decisions?

I'm not saying I have proof that Marvin is making all the decisions.

The only reason I'm asking is because I've heard through the grapevine that Brown hasn't been doing as much activity in the office as he used to and this happened around the same time the Bengal's picked up Marvin. So how do you know Marvin isn't making the final decision on personel? I think Brown believes the same thing every fan believes "In Marvin We Trust".

[HairOnFire]

Why not wait to hear the reasons why the Bengals didn't use a 4th round pick on the kid before attempting to discern who called the shots? After all, despite repeated claims of being interested Marvin always said the kid had chinks in his armor. Why not wait to hear if the Bengals bothered placing a bid at all OR if in hindsight Marvin is the least bit dissappointed?

[Kazkal]

Well from the workout reports he diden't sound very impressive at all.besides going through it hurt....I doubt he'll fall to us low but Ngata Has Strength, long arms,he's fast and quick with good athletic abilty @ 6'5 345 I just highly doubt He'll fall to us

[DontPushMe]

Do you have info. stateing that Marvin doesn't make decisions?

Yup, Mike Brown is the General Manager. The GM in the NFL makes personel decisions. The coach of every team makes their suggestions and throws their 2 cents in, but in the end the picks and signings are up to the GM. Simple as that.

Who drafted Corey Dillon? Mike Brown

Who drafted Chad Johnson? Mike Brown

Who drafted Carson Palmer? Mike Brown

Madieu Williams? Mike Brown

etc.

Contrary to what most fans think. Mike Brown doesnt make all the bad picks, and ML makes the good ones. You guys crack me up. When theres a pick that you guys dont like, it was Mike Browns pick. When theres one you like, its thank god we have marvin lewis around.

Oh and the post 3 up is humerous. You guys always do that. When someone defends someone that most people dont like, its not because they are defending someone from unnecessary hate, no, its because they like having homosexual sex with them. Genius.

[LABengalsFan09]

Manuel Wright is a Dolphin

5th round selection

[Kazkal]

We know LA

[LABengalsFan09]

Oh,

[HairOnFire]

Yup, Mike Brown is the General Manager.

Mike Brown isn't the GM. He's the team president. And before you pop off about those jobs being the same thing I'll remind you that some teams have both. I'll also remind you that in the past Brown has repeatedly defended the lack of a GM on this team with claims that those duties are better spread around between himself, others in the front office, and the coaching staff. In addition, Brown has always claimed that his coaches are almost always free to draft whoever they desire with a few notable exceptions. And his departed head coaches have always confirmed that, admitting that Brown usually let them have their way unless the draft choice in question was an extremely high first round pick.

[DontPushMe]

dontpushme you are lucky you are not around because i would push your bitch ass to the ground and spit in your face for being so ignorant.  MIKE BROWN MADE NO CHOICE.  If you payed more attention to the organization you would realize that your butt buddy has taken a less vocal approach.  I'm not saying Marvin has complete control, but if you would pay attention you would realize Marvin is always bringing in his players, or his kind of players.  It would be hard for someone as ignorant as your dumb ass to get that.  Since Marvin has got here there is not a draft pick I haven't liked so I don't know where you are getting this s**t from probably your butt buddies ass.  You are probably one of those band wagon jumpers and don't remember the years that Mike Brown was picking because if you did you would remember he picked combine freaks (someone who performs great at the workout) and now we draft football players that have proven themselves on the field.  If you can't see a difference in the type of player we draft now compared to then you are worthless.  The Blackburns have been taking over that front office for years now and you probably didn't know that either did you bitch.

GO SUCK CORY DILLIONS DICK TOO DONTHURTME...BITCH

I defend mike brown a few times and im his butt buddy. Hilarious.

All i was saying was in the end its Mike Browns decision, i have never once denied that the coach has a say in things, makes his suggestions, but Mike Brown makes the last call. Thats it.

And haha, u are challenging me to a fight it appears for defending our teams president. Good stuff man. Oh, and id love to see you try your plan of "pushing my bitch ass to the ground." Too bad i dont live in cincy, damn, so convenient that the one you are threatening lives no where near you. Oh well, cant win em all i guess.

^^ GROIIIDayton

[HairOnFire]

Getting back on thread....before it fades away forever.

I just read that Miami got Wright with the lower of their two 5th round picks...which if I remember correctly means the Bengals didn't bother making a 5th round bid.

Seems like media reports of strong interest were a little generous so I now offer small apologies to those who said as much.

[schweinhart]

Getting back on thread....before it fades away forever.

I just read that Miami got Wright with the lower of their two 5th round picks...which if I remember correctly means the Bengals didn't bother making a 5th round bid.

Seems like media reports of strong interest were a little generous so I now offer small apologies to those who said as much.

These teams got their risk analysis to deal with. Wright had his shot but could'nt convince teams to get past what appeared to be the kind of deficiencies that make it hard for a team to be patient enough with and sacrifice a roster spot in the meantime.

No disputing his quicks, but everything else about him seemed to be a question mark.

As for the excitement of Wright and the Bengals interest in him, it shouldn't be any wonder. ML does his best broken records to say the DTs aren't the prob w/ the run D but I got 2 eyes in my head and I say they could be a whole lot less of the problem and more of the solution w/ better personnel.

Steele and OG weren't answers but neither was Tony Williams nor the reliance on Langston Moore. Thornton was a decent pickup and does many good things but is proly better suited as a 3-4 DE because of his quickness. Maybe the dip into the 2nd-tier free agent tank for Bryan Robinson pans out. Maybe Shaun Smith was a true find on the waiver wire. Maybe Askew does something......anything.

But that's a lot of maybes and a so-so. Wright would've added to the maybe mix and another maybe to me seems no less uncertain than what already is.

Either way, the die is cast....Carry on

[ShulaSteakhouse]

The Bengals don't have room on their roster for another project DT - that is the reason - the Dolphins do.

And it's not worth losing a 5th round pick over if the guy is just going to go on the practice squad and get plucked.

The Bengals want to stick with Askew, so be it.

Not sure why people are picking nits over this.

[HairOnFire]

The Bengals don't have room on their roster for another project DT - that is the reason - the Dolphins do.

And it's not worth losing a 5th round pick over if the guy is just going to go on the practice squad and get plucked.

The Bengals want to stick with Askew, so be it.

Not sure why people are picking nits over this.

Not really picking a nit so much as putting a bow on the bonnet to see what it looks like. (Sorry, even I have no idea what that meant.)

Only the PFW article I stumbled across immediately prior to the draft claimed Wright was a prospect so risky that he might not be capable of sticking on a decent teams 53 man roster. So it's fair to say he free fell after the poor workout, right? But ignoring the player in question for just a moment it seems easy to make the same leap that you just did speculating the Bengals still find Askew to be the far more promising prospect/project. And that's encouraging when weighed against the talk of injury or poor drive previously kicked around.

In a nutshell, I'm not complaining a bit about the Bengals lack of a 5th round bid. I mentioned it only because I had heard no mention of whether the Bengals had made a bid at all and the Dolphins use of a lower pick in the round implied they hadn't. I was just wondering aloud what the surprising display of interest in Wright meant to the players already on the roster.

[jjakq27]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2107860

USC defensive tackle only player taken

The Miami Dolphins selected USC defensive tackle Manuel Wright in the fifth round of the NFL supplemental draft Thursday.

Wright, 22, was considered a potential first-round choice in 2007 had he stayed in USC. He was hoping to go in the first or second round. A disappointing workout Friday at which he weighed 329 pounds didn't help his case.

"We believe we have gotten great value from our supplemental pick by adding a player of Manuel's talent to our roster at the critical position of defensive line,"Dolphins coach Nick Saban said.

Wright left USC even though he had two years of eligibility because he wasn't sure if he could stay eligible.

"Based on Manny's performance in the classroom, we've been prepared for this for a while," Trojans coach Pete Carroll said when Wright declared for the draft.

Despite the workout, Wright is considered an interesting prospect. He has a good first step similar to Cortez Kennedy. At 6-feet-5, 329 pounds, Wright can dominate a game. He was almost unblockable in a game against Oklahoma last season for the Trojans.

As a sophomore last season, Wright backed up Shaun Cody and Mike Patterson. Patterson was taken by Philadelphia late in the first round of the regular draft last April, and Cody went early in the second to Detroit. Playing in 11 games, two of them starts, Wright had 23 tackles, including six for a loss, and recovered two fumbles.

The Dolphins believe they got a steal in Wright.

"I'm glad to have been picked by the Dolphins and I'm looking forward to starting my professional career in Miami," Wright said. "I appreciate the confidence they showed by taking me."

Wright was taken because of need. The Miami defensive line is aging and has injury questions.

"I don't think the difficulty is evaluating him as a football player," new coach Nick Saban said last month.

"I think the evaluation is, he played behind two really good players that were both drafted, and to find out if he has the right stuff to be a consistent performer -- which is questioned sometimes when a guy hasn't played as much and he's a young player coming out. But that's all part of the evaluation as well."

Eight other players, including former Clemson wide receiver Roscoe Crosby, were eligible to be taken in the supplemental draft, but only Wright was selected.

[schweinhart]

I was just wondering aloud what the surprising display of interest in Wright meant to the players already on the roster.

That's the heart of the matter.

Instead of rolling the dice on Wright, the Bengals seem content with their DTs and willing to ride Bryan Robinson, who the Fins didn't want to keep.

We'll see