Kazkal Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Am I the only one who would like to see the bengals give him more of a shot? I think he's worthy of number 1 spot he may not be the best blocker but he was a catcher not a love er blocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 He'll get every shot he needs.He just needs to show up without an injured hammy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Hard to forget what the announcer for the Giants game said about Schobel -- he can't block his way out of a wet paper bag.Don't think it's all that, but Schobel needs to work on blocking to stay on the field as much as possible. Hands down he's the only threat at TE catching the ball and they will need him to be more involved this year in Brat's playcall.Reggie Kelly is almost a total non-factor as a receiver. His blocking ability seems overvalued to me. When he missed 4 games in 2003, the Bengals still avgd. about 140 yds per game on ground.Tony Stewart could be more involved this year if he can re-establish himself as a reliable target. He might be on the bubble to make the cut but proly sticks since he's also the back-up FB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofLnMU Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 What about Ronnie Ghent? The guy was a reliable receiver at Louisville, and was a favorite target of Dave Ragone while he was there. He's also getting some work at FB in the camps from what I had heard on the Louisville boards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 They say that his blocking has improved quite a bit, but it was his receiving that I thought tailed off some in 2004. He had too many dropped balls in "must catch, 3rd and long" situations. He is a productive red zone receiver and comparing his numbers with the few TE's that were available in FA and even fewer quality TE's in the draft, I'm glad that we hung on to him. I think one of the other 2 guys are in trouble this off season. One of them will be hard to get rid of since they are such team players with great attitudes and communtiy involvement, but I have a feeling we will keep one more receiver and one less TE, unless we can sign one to the practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Schobel is a bust, lets get on with life in the post Schobel era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well I guess aslong as hes being played 3rd downs thats all that really matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABengalsFan09 Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Yeah, but the ability he flashed vs. Dallas is enough to give him another look...I think it was the teams longest play of the year. But don't quote me on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TippCityRick Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I think it was the teams longest play of the year. But don't quote me on that. . . . . it was . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I see TE just being out 1st overall pick next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I see TE just being out 1st overall pick next year.Depends if theres any awesome TE's and they don't get picked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian5562 Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Shobel has a lot of talent he just needs to be consistent and get oppurtunites if there is an odd man out I think it is Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 They should just have matt be the starting long snapper so they save a spot + have more of a reason to keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 He could have a break out year, I hope he does but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 They should just have matt be the starting long snapper so they save a spot + have more of a reason to keep him EXCUSE ME? We have one of the best longsnappers in the league and you want to cut him to turn a tight end with no long snapping experience into the longsnapper so he has another chance to drop the ball on important downs? You are talking about the same guy who can't block when that's the only thing he's asked to do, right? Yet you want him to long snap the ball and THEN get up and block? Get back on the meds dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodikart Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 They should just have matt be the starting long snapper so they save a spot + have more of a reason to keep him I agree find someone else to be the long snapper and get rid of St. Louis. I see a waste of valuable roster space to have a player just be the long snapper and not even play tight end as he is listed. With all the position battles that seem to be upcoming in training camp I think another person at wide receiver or keeping another CB seems very valuable. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin-or-bust Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 I think until we actually throw to the TE, any discussion about giving him more of a chance or us drafting one is mute. More than 9 out of 10 times we go deep, its not to a TE. We could have Tony Gonzalez and he would get the same number of receptions as what we have. Brat just does not design most of his plays togo to a TE. Give me the great blockers and an average recieving TE and lets concentrate on getting the leagues best recieving core to 2 or 3 1000 yard recievers. Remember, Rudi will run right into a mass of man if thats where the hole is supposed to be. With great blocking, that mass of man is not there and he goes for 8-10 yards every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin-or-bust Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Like butta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet23 Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 _^I agree find someone else to be the long snapper and get rid of St. Louis. I see a waste of valuable roster space to have a player just be the long snapper and not even play tight end as he is listed. With all the position battles that seem to be upcoming in training camp I think another person at wide receiver or keeping another CB seems very valuable. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 They should just have matt be the starting long snapper so they save a spot + have more of a reason to keep him I agree find someone else to be the long snapper and get rid of St. Louis. I see a waste of valuable roster space to have a player just be the long snapper and not even play tight end as he is listed. With all the position battles that seem to be upcoming in training camp I think another person at wide receiver or keeping another CB seems very valuable. IMO Put down the crackpipe and ask yourself why the Pre-St. Louis kickers couldn't kick a field goal to save their lives? Because they didn't have one of the best long snappers in the business snapping them the ball and giving them time to get the kick off. St. Louis is a special teams player, just like Miles has been. The game isn't just about Offense and Defense, there's a 3rd part to the game, and special teams can win games or lose them for you. There's a reason Marvin drafts guys who will be special teams players. Until Gooey or another lineman proves they can longsnap too, St. Louis has earned his keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well I know importance of special teams look at how many games are won by 3points..But out all the DL,OL,LB & TE I figure would could be good enough to save a extra needed spot.but if no one comes close to St. Louis. then ya I'd say keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well I know importance of special teams look at how many games are won by 3points..But out all the DL,OL,LB & TE I figure would could be good enough to save a extra needed spot.but if no one comes close to St. Louis. then ya I'd say keep him Very few players in the LEAGUE come close to St. Louis at his job. If we cut him, he would be snapped up faster than a drunk blond at a frat party who says I'm horny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well I know importance of special teams look at how many games are won by 3points..But out all the DL,OL,LB & TE I figure would could be good enough to save a extra needed spot.but if no one comes close to St. Louis. then ya I'd say keep himVery few players in the LEAGUE come close to St. Louis at his job. If we cut him, he would be snapped up faster than a drunk blond at a frat party who says I'm horny. "nods"I just wanna make sure we keep ben wilkerson /cry don't wanna see him cut because were short on spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted June 7, 2005 Report Share Posted June 7, 2005 Well I know importance of special teams look at how many games are won by 3points..But out all the DL,OL,LB & TE I figure would could be good enough to save a extra needed spot.but if no one comes close to St. Louis. then ya I'd say keep himVery few players in the LEAGUE come close to St. Louis at his job. If we cut him, he would be snapped up faster than a drunk blond at a frat party who says I'm horny. "nods"I just wanna make sure we keep ben wilkerson /cry don't wanna see him cut because were short on spots I'd keep St. Louis over Wilkerson if it came down to one spot. He's one of the top 3 specialists in the league and Wilkerson's what...fighting for a spot as the 3rd center? Easy decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted June 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2005 Fighting to be our future center,Braham has 1 mybe 2 years left as a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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