rob_justdmb Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Boomer was 6-4, 220. But remember back in the day, he would roll out and because we had 3 great when healthy receivers, a tight end would had to be covered by a db and the best pass catching rb, he would just dip for like 20 yards.Carson looked unexpectedly well when he could last year, imagine him with a little more quickness and teams forced to double cover CJ and cover TJ and PW. We're unstoppable. <insert sound Homer makes when he thinks of a 2XL pepperoni extra cheese pizza> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 I like that he has lost 20lbs in the offseason. One thing I always thought about him in college was how great he could throw on the run. I would love to see a few designed bootlegs to get him out in traffic. :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrandom42 Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 More than losing weight and his ability to throw on the run, I think his ability to read defenses is where his biggest growth will take place.Anyone remember the preseaon game where the Bengals shredded the Patriots' defense and how pissed Belichek was at his starters? How all the "experts" were saying the Patriots were playing a "vanilla" defense and how Carson wouldn't stand a chance during the regular season?Then when December rolled around, for 3 quarters (until Richard Seymour rolled up his leg), Carson was patiently, carefully and comprehensively dismantling the Patriots' secondary. Belichek is known for his abilty to disguise coverages and give totally confusing looks to a QB. Yet Carson was well on his way to throwing for over 300 yrds and 4 TDs against the Super Bowl Champs, something Peyton Manning and Donavan McNabb had major difficulties doing. This game, even more than the second Ravens game, had me believing in Carson's and the Bengals' playoff hopes for this year.With a year of playing against top defenses, and the confidence gained from doing well against championship level teams, I think Carson will have even more success, whether he stays in the pocket or throws on the run, because either of them is predicated on how he reads the defense thrown at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 More than losing weight and his ability to throw on the run, I think his ability to read defenses is where his biggest growth will take place.Anyone remember the preseaon game where the Bengals shredded the Patriots' defense and how pissed Belichek was at his starters? How all the "experts" were saying the Patriots were playing a "vanilla" defense and how Carson wouldn't stand a chance during the regular season?Then when December rolled around, for 3 quarters (until Richard Seymour rolled up his leg), Carson was patiently, carefully and comprehensively dismantling the Patriots' secondary. Belichek is known for his abilty to disguise coverages and give totally confusing looks to a QB. Yet Carson was well on his way to throwing for over 300 yrds and 4 TDs against the Super Bowl Champs, something Peyton Manning and Donavan McNabb had major difficulties doing. This game, even more than the second Ravens game, had me believing in Carson's and the Bengals' playoff hopes for this year.With a year of playing against top defenses, and the confidence gained from doing well against championship level teams, I think Carson will have even more success, whether he stays in the pocket or throws on the run, because either of them is predicated on how he reads the defense thrown at him. Carson has done more against the Patriots defense than Manning has ever done! This truly does bode well for the Bengals, and should induce an ominous foreboding feeling for the rest of the league! :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Carson already had wheels, from the beginning of the season against the Jets.He wheeled out the pocket to grab a first down against them, and also against the Ravens.He knows JUST the right time to roll out, unless its a blindside blitzer coming for him.......NO QB has eyes in the back of their head, and even if they did, the helmet obstructs their view anyway.Him losing 10 or 20 pounds is just icing on the cake. His strength won't be compromised, and he can still launch a cannon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybren Posted May 21, 2005 Report Share Posted May 21, 2005 He's definitely going to surprise some people. I wish the Vikings game wasn't until later in the season...when Carson out-performs Culpepper the cat will be out of the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 He's definitely going to surprise some people. I wish the Vikings game wasn't until later in the season...when Carson out-performs Culpepper the cat will be out of the bag. I hope he doesn't have to demonstrate his scrambling ability too often. It either means all the recievers are covered down field (yeah...like that's going to be a major problem! ) or his pass protection has broken down, and he has to make it on his own. He may be somewhat agile for a big guy, (thank goodness he only has an arm like Marino! When Dan had to scramble he looked more like Herman Munster! ) but he's not a Steve Young type of guy either. Personally I'd rather not see him run too much. He's too valuable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekshank Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 In the few games I got to watch last year, Carson's scrambling wasn't meant to gain yards, but just to buy a few more seconds. I disagree with billybroome on the point that this means that our receivers are covered, or his pass protection has broken down. Elite defenses like Philly last year did great jobs of sending the right blitzers at the right time, giving NFL QB's way too little time to let the play develop. Mike Vick would just run around and around, whereas Palmer would roll out and find the open receiver.I agree that I hope he doesn't have to scramble too often, as far as needing to gain yards with his feet, but I saw him give his receivers time to run their routes on several occasions that resulted in pivitol 1st downs. I don't know how excited to get about the loss of 20 pounds, because he seemed to do fine last year. Mayhaps he will gain the ability to pick up an easy 6 or 7 yards and get out of bounds this year. I like to see QB's do that on 2nd down making for an easy 3rd down conversions. These are the only kinds of QB scrambles I would really like seeing from CP this coming year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazkal Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 when when December rolled around, for 3 quarters (until Richard Seymour rolled up his leg), Carson was patiently, carefully and comprehensively dismantling the Patriots' secondary. Belichek is known for his abilty to disguise coverages and give totally confusing looks to a QB. Yet Carson was well on his way to throwing for over 300 yrds and 4 TDs against the Super Bowl Champs, something Peyton Manning and Donavan McNabb had major difficulties doing. This game, even more than the second Ravens game, had me believing in Carson's and the Bengals' playoff hopes for this year. Reading that gave me wood.LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 I disagree with billybroome on the point that this means that our receivers are covered, or his pass protection has broken down.You got my comments half right there. Correct about the pass protection, but about the coverage I joked "yeah...like that's going to be a major problem!", I was expressing doubt about defenses being able to consistently cover all the Bengals receivers downfield. When it does happen (and it will occasionally, like when the defenses grab and hold all the recievers simultaneously. Hey! It could happen! ) it presents Carson with the options of either taking off and running with it, (be ready to do that feet first slide Palmer!), or chucking the ball about 27 rows up in the stands. Even just eating the ball and taking the sack is better than tossing an INT!BTW, don't you consider not picking up the blitz enough to at least give the QB time to get rid of the ball a pass protection breakdown of sorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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