LesterLyles Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Much more like it. I see the Bengals anywhere from 11-14 to be honest and I think they will compete for the division. Jets were #9 which I guss I can live with but I do think they have a legit shot at that division this year. I guess the media at this point has to pick the Pats until someone proves they can be beaten and I can understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 The Jets really should build on last year's success to win the East this year. It looks like the Pats should have a year of total disarray and the Bills fall short again.Even so...The Bengals are at least dead even w/ the Jets IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterLyles Posted May 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 The Jets really should build on last year's success to win the East this year. It looks like the Pats should have a year of total disarray and the Bills fall short again.Even so...The Bengals are at least dead even w/ the Jets IMO.There is a short window of opportunity for the Jets b/c Miami will be a force in the future and Buffalo has talent but an inexperienced QB. Pats have to take a step back (don't they??) so I look at this as a one year window so to speak. Jets and Bengals are pretty even talent wise w/ Cincy having abit more on the offensive end and the Jets a bit more on the defensive end, IMO. Give the Jets a slight nod on the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalNation1281 Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 My friend thought that I was crazy when I told him that the Jets would win the AFC East this year. I think that the Pats are going to slip considerably this year, and the Jets are strong enough that they will be able to reap the benefits.I think that this might be a year like 2002, when the Pats went 9-7 and missed the playoffs after winning the Bowl the year before.Wouldn't it be great if the Bengals went to the playoffs and the Pats didn't? That would fill me with immense glee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 There is a short window of opportunity for the Jets b/c Miami will be a force in the future and Buffalo has talent but an inexperienced QB. Pats have to take a step back (don't they??) so I look at this as a one year window so to speak. Miami will be a force in the future? Sure they will, but then again, in the future, the Cardinals and the 49rs will be a force too! Unfortunately, that future is at least 5 to 10 years away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterLyles Posted May 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 There is a short window of opportunity for the Jets b/c Miami will be a force in the future and Buffalo has talent but an inexperienced QB. Pats have to take a step back (don't they??) so I look at this as a one year window so to speak. Miami will be a force in the future? Sure they will, but then again, in the future, the Cardinals and the 49rs will be a force too! Unfortunately, that future is at least 5 to 10 years away. Yeah, but Saben scares me. He reminds me of a cross b/w Bellicheck and Jimmy Johnson. They still don't have a QB and their D is aging but I give them a year or two to be a force in the division again. As for Cincy, theykey for them IMO is to go 4-2 in the division. None of this spluit w/ Cleveland and sweep by Pitt. The Bengals are good enough to sweep Cleveland and split w/ the other two. At 4-2 in the division, I think Cincy is better than the other 3rd place AFC teams to get a real edge there. Plus I don't really buy the NFC North so I can see you guys going 3-1 versus that division. At the very least, that should put you in a very solid position for the wildcard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillisXPress Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Does anyone have a link to this ranking list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterLyles Posted May 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Does anyone have a link to this ranking list? I do not...I saw it in print on the newsstand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 Sure they will, but then again, in the future, the Cardinals and the 49rs will be a force too! Unfortunately, that future is at least 5 to 10 years away. You might be wrong about Arizona! I live about 1 1/2 hours north of Phoenix, and I get to see up close what Dennis Green is doing, and he is putting together a formidable squad that I predict will be the sleeper team of the NFC, not to mention win their division outright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted May 9, 2005 Report Share Posted May 9, 2005 There is a short window of opportunity for the Jets b/c Miami will be a force in the future and Buffalo has talent but an inexperienced QB. Pats have to take a step back (don't they??) so I look at this as a one year window so to speak. Miami will be a force in the future? Sure they will, but then again, in the future, the Cardinals and the 49rs will be a force too! Unfortunately, that future is at least 5 to 10 years away. The Cardinals have just as good of a chance to make the playoffs as the Bengals do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Much more like it. I see the Bengals anywhere from 11-14 to be honest and I think they will compete for the division. Jets were #9 which I guss I can live with but I do think they have a legit shot at that division this year. I guess the media at this point has to pick the Pats until someone proves they can be beaten and I can understand that. I'm praying you guys beat the Patriots out for the division this year, you have no idea how many annoying Patriots fans I have to deal with in Connecticut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterLyles Posted May 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 There seem to be a lot in the NY area (where I from). W/ that being said you have no idea how much I want you to beat Pittsburgh...talk about annoying fans. At least the Past have won 3 times in 4 years. The key for the Jets has been that they are strong on both lines. The replacement of J. Ferguson really is the only question IMO. Skill positions are exciting and DBs/Lbs are important but IMO the twop most important positions other than QB are DL and OL. The Bengals seem set at OL IMO. Nice young players have formed a solid unit (I wish draftniks could apologize for negative writeups of the past i.e. Levi Jones...that was a very good pick). The DL for the Bengals is the quation.W/ some of the changes made, they have the chance to be good. I hope it turns out true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 There is a short window of opportunity for the Jets b/c Miami will be a force in the future and Buffalo has talent but an inexperienced QB. Pats have to take a step back (don't they??) so I look at this as a one year window so to speak. Miami will be a force in the future? Sure they will, but then again, in the future, the Cardinals and the 49rs will be a force too! Unfortunately, that future is at least 5 to 10 years away. The Cardinals have just as good of a chance to make the playoffs as the Bengals do. Not without a running game, and a defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalNation1281 Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Arizona is the only team that has gotten an A+ on every draft analysis I've seen, they have the best young receiving corps in the NFC and possibly the NFL, they have made excellent signings on the defensive side of the ball (Bert Berry last year, Chike Okeafor this year with Robert Griffith, Orlando Huff and Raymond Walls also being good acquisitions), and they play in the weakest division in the NFC. I think that the Cards take the NFC West and do no worse than 9-7. The running game can be fixed if J.J. Arrington can get up to speed quickly and Marcel Shipp can get back the form he displayed in 2003. I would be more worried about the QB situation...Warner will implode again, but McCown gets a lot of crap hung on him despite the fact that he got better at the end of the year. Like I said, Cards take the NFC West.And Mike Martz meets his demise as the head coach in St. Louis...praise be to Jesus :player: Mike Holmgren meets his demise as the head coach of the Seahawks...and then gets hired by a team who praises him endlessly for the great work he did with Favre in GB.Alex Smith continues to wax his eyebrows in SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterLyles Posted May 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Arizona is the only team that has gotten an A+ on every draft analysis I've seen, they have the best young receiving corps in the NFC and possibly the NFL, they have made excellent signings on the defensive side of the ball (Bert Berry last year, Chike Okeafor this year with Robert Griffith, Orlando Huff and Raymond Walls also being good acquisitions), and they play in the weakest division in the NFC. I think that the Cards take the NFC West and do no worse than 9-7. The running game can be fixed if J.J. Arrington can get up to speed quickly and Marcel Shipp can get back the form he displayed in 2003. I would be more worried about the QB situation...Warner will implode again, but McCown gets a lot of crap hung on him despite the fact that he got better at the end of the year. Like I said, Cards take the NFC West.And Mike Martz meets his demise as the head coach in St. Louis...praise be to Jesus :player: Mike Holmgren meets his demise as the head coach of the Seahawks...and then gets hired by a team who praises him endlessly for the great work he did with Favre in GB.Alex Smith continues to wax his eyebrows in SF Until they get a good O-line and D-line, they will stink> you can have all the skill positions you want...if you aren't strong on the lines, you won't get anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalNation1281 Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 They have a guy who went to the Pro Bowl on one end of the DL and Chike Okeafor at the other, not to mention Darnell Dockett in the middle. How can you say that the D-Line isn't strong? The O-line could use some help, I will give you that, but they do have Leonard Davis and Oliver Ross at LT and RT. I still think that they win the NFC West. They have made moves to get better while St. Louis has been (for the most part) standing still. Seattle made some good moves, but they also lost some good players, and they weren't exactly a really strong team to begin with. SF is at least two years from making any diference in the standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Rebuilding teams and taking them to the playoffs is a forte of Dennis Green. Taking them beyond that seems to be where he's hit a wall. Maybe he'll break through that in Arizona. Bill Bidwell (Mike Browns evil twin ) seems to be giving him carte blanche with the team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcat Bengal Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 There seem to be a lot in the NY area (where I from). W/ that being said you have no idea how much I want you to beat Pittsburgh...talk about annoying fans. At least the Past have won 3 times in 4 years. How retarded is that.They realize that New England is in Bah-stun right?I thought it was illegal for New Yorkers to root for anything Boston related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Rebuilding teams and taking them to the playoffs is a forte of Dennis Green. I'm a huge fan of Dennis Green. He was my first choice for the Bengals HC position prior to LeBeau being fired and Marvin being signed. That said, when asked about what he'd concentrate on first, if hired by the Cincy Bengals, Green mentioned trying to salvage Akili Smith's career. Said his talent level was obvious and just needed developing. Later on, after being hired by the Cards, he said the same things about Josh McCown. In hindsight you've got to wonder about those decisions....as well as his decision to draft Larry Fitzgerald as high as he did. You've also got to admire Marvin's decisions to flush Akili almost immediately and draft Palmer 1st overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 I know I'm probably in the minority in this, but I love it when we are ranked low...give me a mid-20's rating over a top 10 anyday. That way people won't start to notice us until we've racked up 6 straight wins. I would love a very quiet first half of the season with just one loss...respect from the rest of the league is over-rated. A nice and quiet 11-5 season would do me just fine...of course with Chad and now Odell that's not likely to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 Arizona is hurting at Quarterback. Kurt Warner isn't what he was during his heyday, and McCown proved last year that he was a joke. Sure, they have great receivers, but just like Baltiwhore, it doesn't do you any good to have top receivers when you have noone to deliver them the ball. They don't have a great line, and their running game has huge questions. They have two linebackers on their roster worth a damn. Too many holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoFever Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 It is interesting how quickly people jump on board a team that had a good offseason. It seems, however, that more often than not, those teams take a little while to realize the benefits of a good offseason. Just like it has here with Marvin, it will take a little time in Arizona for them to take the giant leap of making the playoffs. It typically takes a while for players to learn how to win. It's typically a progression. That's why I'm so excited about our chances of making the playoffs this year. We've spent the last two years learning how to believe in ourselves and how to not make stupid plays that lose ballgames. Of course, we're still learning, but hopefully we've learned enough to take that next step. All that being said, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Arizona at 8-8 this year. I do think the playoffs are a bit of a stretch, despite all the pub they've been getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Orange Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 I totally agree...what happened to Pittsburgh this year and the Panthers last year is the exception rather than the rule for a less than average team do exceptionally well. I guess it happens about once a year...but trying to pick that team is such a crap shoot...I think it's more likely to be a team like houston who has been hovering for a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalNation1281 Posted May 10, 2005 Report Share Posted May 10, 2005 It is interesting how quickly people jump on board a team that had a good offseason. It seems, however, that more often than not, those teams take a little while to realize the benefits of a good offseason. Just like it has here with Marvin, it will take a little time in Arizona for them to take the giant leap of making the playoffs. It typically takes a while for players to learn how to win. It's typically a progression. That's why I'm so excited about our chances of making the playoffs this year. We've spent the last two years learning how to believe in ourselves and how to not make stupid plays that lose ballgames. Of course, we're still learning, but hopefully we've learned enough to take that next step. All that being said, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Arizona at 8-8 this year. I do think the playoffs are a bit of a stretch, despite all the pub they've been getting. But remember...8-8 in the NFC is almost good enough to get you home-field advantage.I said it, and I'll stick by it. 'Zona wins the West. St. Louis falls flat and Martz is kicked out the door. Seattle will contend for the playoffs but fall short.Alex Smith still waxes his eyebrows, regardless of the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Next_Big_Thing Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Seattle will be just as strong as last year and win the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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