DontPushMe Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Sammy Morris would be an upgrade over Rudi Johnson. Rudi is a bad starting RB, despite what some blind fans will say.Why would anyone take you seriously with stupid babble like this? Do you think anyone buys into your twisted logic? Do you even watch football? Rudi Johnson is a similar player to Sammy Morris. Except Morris is a solid receiver. I beleive if Rudi was on the Dolphins this year, his numbers would of been no better than Morris's.And as expected, no one can argue against my numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Well thanks for taking Rudi off the market, thusly driving up the price for Travis Henry. Tell me again why we should care about Travis Henry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 So is a "peerless Price" situation in order?What 'chu talkin' 'bout Willis! It be nuthin' like dat! Our Bengals team owner Mr. Mike Brown, got blind drunk at a bar the night before the draft, and when he heard the announcement of the Bengals turn arriving, his lifted his head from the table, Unfortunately the only name his eyes could manage to focus on through his stupor was that of Chris Perry.....and that's the rest of the story! Doesn't that explain '91-'02? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Rudi is a bad starting RB, despite what some blind fans will say. I wonder how good Pushy's vision is with Leon's nutsack covering his eyes. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHO DEY AGAIN? Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 I wonder how good Pushy's vision is with Leon's nutsack covering his eyes. Just a thought Obviously it's not very good! I still don't understand all the hate for Rudi. I guess it's because he's not Leon but IMO that's a great thing. The guy's a solid back,he plays hurt, he's not a distraction,and as Chad Johnson said tonight" It's Rudi's team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ox Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Honestly I don't care if we ship Rudi off or not, as long as Perry does have a "breakout" year as some around here are projecting. The important thing is one of the two remain a viable threat so our golden boy doesn't get killed next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BersMrnsT Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Tell me again why we should care about Travis Henry?We shouldn't, he's just saying that Rudi going off the market gives the Bills leverage in their asking price for Henry.Yeah, it dosen't seem to make sense. Especially cause you had such a good draft beforeThe Perry pick was practically the exact same thing as the McGahee pick. Our staff see Perry as a dynamic back who could be a high impact player the same way that the Bills' staff did. And we had another very good draft last year, and if Perry steps up next year and turns into the starter of the future, then that'll make it a great draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Sammy Morris would be an upgrade over Rudi Johnson. Rudi is a bad starting RB, despite what some blind fans will say.Why would anyone take you seriously with stupid babble like this? Do you think anyone buys into your twisted logic? Do you even watch football? Rudi Johnson is a similar player to Sammy Morris. Except Morris is a solid receiver. I beleive if Rudi was on the Dolphins this year, his numbers would of been no better than Morris's.And as expected, no one can argue against my numbers. People have,and did so at the Bengals footballhuddles where you spewed the same crap you are now doing here.Maybe I should crosslink to the topic so people can read the responses to the tiresome crap you posted there,which is almost identical to what you posted here.As Tibor stated,it's amusing that you claim Rudi's stats are inflated by the games he did well in.No kidding?And his stats are no doubt dragged down by the games he did poorly in,right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 I think Rudi is a good strong 3 and 1 back, and i see him being a duece staley type back.I disagree. 3rd and 1, when the Bengals called a dive he rarely picked it up when the Bengals needed to hold onto the ball the most. Despite his size, I still think of Rudi as a finesse runner than a power back. I heard someone compare Rudi to Emmitt Smith as far as running style. Good balance and good vision but does not have that tremendous burst where he is going to run away from anyone. However at the end of the day, you'll look up and see that he usually had a good day. I also seem to recall a certain tailback that wasn't a guarantee on third-and-one either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 FWIW,I was listening to Pasquarelli on ESPN radio last night,and he stated that the Bengals may have franchised Rudi to get something in return for a trade.He also stated that the Bengals have had a five year $25 million offer sitting on the table,but Rudi hasn't accepted it because he wants a BIG payout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 5years 25mil sounds Ok to me, they should be able to work a deal around that and if he continues to balk I hope the bengals can find a suitor that has some D or a higher draft pick to give up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalByTheBay Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 If there is a 5 year - $5 mil. offer to him and Rudi doesn't accept that as far as I'm concerned he can play out the season sharing carries with Perry and then walk. I don't think he can get much more than that on the market. So, if he doesn't take it he's just playing lip service to the wanting to stay a Bengal line anyway. I don't begrudge the guy getting whatever he can, but I think over $5 mil. is overpaying for the Bengals. If Perry is even serviceable (and I think he will be much more than that) then Rudi will be on his way and probably get less than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Probably the same reasons the Bills drafted Willis, right?Perry wasn't an upgrade from what you had, and with slapping the tag on Rudi i think its obvious that Perry isn't as good, or at least as ready. LOL Sammy Morris would be an upgrade over Rudi Johnson. Rudi is a bad starting RB, despite what some blind fans will say. They will point to his 'great' stats on the year, but really his stats were inflated by a few games, and most of them by 1 half, most games around halftime he would have about 16 carries for 30 yards, then break a 20 yarder or 2 when the game was already over that inflated his stats. Look at these games...carries/yards23/67 (long 16)22/67 (long 14)16/5717/57 (long 18)16/62 (long 16)19/5624/89 (long 18)19/31 (long 11 )28/99 (long 25)26/95 (long 25)31/10223/9824/12324/11926/20223/130 23/98 against the Ravens...24/123 against the Steelers...24/119 against the Broncos...26/95 against the Cowboys...31/102 against the Redskins...24/89 against the Patriots...23/130 against the Bills... (game was lost by Kitna)^Tell me which of these defenses suck against the run please.not to mention we have a pass happy o-coordinator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shworge Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 19/31 (long 11 ) What's sad is if you take away the 11 yard run he had 18 carries for 20 yards, I'm sorry but that just never happens to an elite running back, I don't care if they had Mary's Home for the Blind blocking for them, that should NEVER happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 What about the convincing stats CT put up, are you guys just going to ignore them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 Probably the same reasons the Bills drafted Willis, right?Perry wasn't an upgrade from what you had, and with slapping the tag on Rudi i think its obvious that Perry isn't as good, or at least as ready. LOL Sammy Morris would be an upgrade over Rudi Johnson. Rudi is a bad starting RB, despite what some blind fans will say. They will point to his 'great' stats on the year, but really his stats were inflated by a few games, and most of them by 1 half, most games around halftime he would have about 16 carries for 30 yards, then break a 20 yarder or 2 when the game was already over that inflated his stats. Look at these games...carries/yards23/67 (long 16)22/67 (long 14)16/5717/57 (long 18)16/62 (long 16)19/5624/89 (long 18)19/31 (long 11 )28/99 (long 25)26/95 (long 25)31/10223/9824/12324/11926/20223/130 23/98 against the Ravens...24/123 against the Steelers...24/119 against the Broncos...26/95 against the Cowboys...31/102 against the Redskins...24/89 against the Patriots...23/130 against the Bills... (game was lost by Kitna)^Tell me which of these defenses suck against the run please.not to mention we have a pass happy o-coordinator. Not one. They are all top defenses in 2004.Also a lot of backs don't get the yardage until their team gets the lead in the fourth quarter. That's Jerome Bettis, Corey Dillon or whoever. That's when a guy is needed to eat the clock. Just for fun, perhaps DontPushMe can dig up some of Corey's numbers for carries and yards for the first thru third quarter combined and then the same for the fourth quarter. This is a serious request, BTW. The Pats never blow anybody out but they get the lead and play keep away. I would be interested to see what CD's numbers are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan33 Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 I really wish Rudi had a healthy line all season, because only god knows how good he'd do. Look at what he's doing with an un-healthy o-line. So I can only imagine how good he coild do if everyone of our offensive lineman could stay healthy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richmond_mat Posted February 16, 2005 Report Share Posted February 16, 2005 19/31 (long 11 )What's sad is if you take away the 11 yard run he had 18 carries for 20 yards, I'm sorry but that just never happens to an elite running back, I don't care if they had Mary's Home for the Blind blocking for them, that should NEVER happen. This is complete BS. Look at CD's stats and you'll find way more piss poor games per year than one. Let's define a PPG as one where he didn't crack the 40 yard mark.1997 4 PPG1998 3 PPG1999 6 PPG2000 5 PPG2001 2 PPG2002 1 PPG2003 several before injury.If you'd like to change the definition of PPG to some sort of average, say 2.5 ypc then CD looks even worse. I'll let you do it though. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/game...llCo00.htm#1997 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrooks21 Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 2 rushes, 1 yard and 3 (?) catches... yup, 3 catches for 33 yards i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontPushMe Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 2 rushes, 1 yard and 3 (?) catches...yup, 3 catches for 33 yards i think Which dwarfs Rudi Johnsons rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjakq27 Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 2 rushes, 1 yard and 3 (?) catches...yup, 3 catches for 33 yards i think Which dwarfs Rudi Johnsons rookie year. Yo, Pushy. I asked for some help from you above here and haven't seen anything yet. Can you find out what Corey's combined carries and yards were in the first thru third quarters and then total up the same for the fourth quarter for this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Probably the same reasons the Bills drafted Willis, right?Perry wasn't an upgrade from what you had, and with slapping the tag on Rudi i think its obvious that Perry isn't as good, or at least as ready. LOL Sammy Morris would be an upgrade over Rudi Johnson. Rudi is a bad starting RB, despite what some blind fans will say. They will point to his 'great' stats on the year, but really his stats were inflated by a few games, and most of them by 1 half, most games around halftime he would have about 16 carries for 30 yards, then break a 20 yarder or 2 when the game was already over that inflated his stats. Look at these games...carries/yards23/67 (long 16)22/67 (long 14)16/5717/57 (long 18)16/62 (long 16)19/5624/89 (long 18)19/31 (long 11 )28/99 (long 25)26/95 (long 25)31/102^^^ all below 4 ypc, most of his long runs were when the game was over with anyway, which made his pathetic stats look betterHis stats were inflated by these games, as Rudi would probly call them, contract games:23/9824/12324/11926/20223/130^^ our record in his stat inflation games was 2-3he doesnt matter at all to this team, without those 5 games, rudi is signing somewhere for just above the league minimum, and what do we have to show for his good games? a losing record in themPeople will point to perrys season and laugh, at stuff like his 3 catches, but even on his 3 catches he showed why he is better than rudi. In his 3 catches in 1 game, he received for only 50 less yards then rudi did in 16 games. He cant help it if he is injured and our medical staff diagnosed it wrong. OK 1st off I hate dumbassess that claim to beBengals fans ...but are more Dillon fans. Thirteen of their games were against top 15 defenses.They played 10 games against top 10 defenses. And they had basically a ROOKIE at QB. They had a few games where they lost their center and they had a banged up line at the beginning of the year. PLUS their BEST O-lineman (BIG Willie) was playing injured for overhalf of the season and despite ALL OF THAT ...Rudi Johnsonfinished 6th overall in rushing, broke 2 franchise records forcarries and yards and was 1 yard away from breakingANOTHER record of most 100 yard games in a season. BUT insteadof breaking it he TIED IT with 5 games for 100 yards...averaged 4 yards a carry and had 12 TD`s. (more TD`s in a season than Dillon EVER had for the Bengals....He had 10TD`s twice)By the way in 2001 Corey Dillon averaged 3.9 yards a carrryand only had 10 TD`s ....were people saying he wasn`t any good or not worth the money AFTER he signed that 5 year, $32 million dollar contract in MAY of 2001 ?AFTER he signed that contract his average yards per carry were 2001: 3.9 2002: 4.22003: 3.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Hey Olschooler, Long time. I've needed you for some stat battles lately. You should just change your mane to stat boy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Hey Olschooler, Long time. I've needed you for some stat battles lately. You should just change your name to stat boy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted February 17, 2005 Report Share Posted February 17, 2005 Nice. You haven't been around for the OH so fun Dillon rants by Pushy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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