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Hopefully some of the revionists and apologists for Dillon will finally shut up. :angry: I can't wait for the day when he pulls a Barry Sanders and walks, leaving the Patriots holding the bag.

Same article as above, differnet link. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...COL03/501210404

We never met this guy

Patriots 'team player' never showed face as Bengal

By Paul Daugherty

Enquirer staff writer

The Bengals lost 78 games in the seven seasons Corey Dillon was with Cincinnati, but the loss total wasn't the sole source of all the attitude problems for the running back, who now plays for the Patriots.

The revisionist paint job on Corey Dillon is getting a little thick. If the New England Patriots return to the Super Bowl in 16 days, Dillon will be part halfback, part Dalai Lama. The notion that CD cured all of his personality ills by leaving the Cincinnati hellhole for the paradise of a Boston exurb is getting maximum run. It's a good story.

All this time, we here in Loserville thought CD was a pouty locker-room wrecker just because, well, just because that's who he was. Some babies are born with hair. Corey Dillon was born with anger.

As a Bengal, Dillon rode permanent shotgun on the last train to Jerkville. It was, we thought, a personality trait.

Boy, were we dumb.

Actually, Corey was just a frustrated young man who needed only the sunshine of winning to bloom and re-emerge as the Prince of New England. Corey Dillon, prince. Who knew?

Dillon's not the player who threw his shoulder pads into the stands after the last game of Cincinnati's 2003 season, who declared "it's all about me," who said he'd rather flip burgers than play for the Bengals.

(That last sentiment came in the midst of a contract negotiation, by the way, not because of Chronic Losing Fatigue. Just to be, you know, accurate.)

Dillon's not that guy. He's Mr. Touchdown. He's Mr. Team.

He's not the guy who a few years ago winged his Ohio driver's license at a clerk at a drive-through convenience store because the kid had the nerve to ask him for identification. "Don't you know who I am?" Dillon asked.

The clerk didn't. Evidently, none of us did.

We didn't understand him. Corey Dillon doesn't think the world is out to get him. He isn't the guy who stiffed the media and his coaches the day he was drafted, so offended was he to have been picked in the second round.

He's the Sunshine Man, a real Team Guy. A "classy dude," in the words of the Patriots' Rodney Harrison.

It's great that Dillon has found his inner bliss in New England. Patriots coach Bill Belichick has a habit of teaching team football and getting everyone to play nice together. Dillon has adapted well. Good for him.

But c'mon.

"This is about losing and how it can ruin a man," notes a recent ESPN the Magazine CD story.

That would be true if Dillon had jumped off the plane in Cincinnati humming a happy tune, but he didn't. It's amazing he did so well here, considering he had to carry the football and the boulder on his shoulder.

Dillon showed up with an attitude. It helped define him as a runner. He ran mean.

Losing didn't help his disposition. It didn't help anyone's disposition. To hear Dillon, Dillon was unique in feeling losing's dull, aching pain. He was special.

If Dillon were so consumed with losing, if he were so eager to win, why did some of his classic gripes come in his last season here, when the Bengals finished 8-8 and went into the last regular-season Sunday still in playoff contention? Mr. Winner bailed just when winning was poised for a comeback.

If losing were so cancerous to his spirit, how come Dillon's best year as a Bengal was 2000, when the team finished 4-12?

What ate at Dillon was Rudi Johnson. What ticked him was the notion, held by some in power, that he was past his prime. What riled him was a coach who stood up to him.

Dillon made up stuff about the offensive line not wanting to block for him. He decided Marvin Lewis was "messing" with him by asking him to talk with the media during training camp in 2003. He called Willie Anderson a "bum." Anderson is a very good player and an even better human being. Dillon, in comparison, is a cardboard box.

Mr. Winning didn't pull for Johnson because the Bengals were winning with Rudi in the backfield. He rooted for Rudi because he knew the better Rudi played, the more expendable Dillon would be. "Rudi was my ticket out," Dillon said.

"He was the face of the franchise," ESPN the Magazine claims. Not exactly. Dillon was its best player. The face is out there through bad and badder. Dillon was the face when he had a complaint he needed to air.

And so on. Congratulations to Corey Dillon, Team Guy. Never heard of him.

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More "down-the-dial" drivel.

And, as for pulling a "Barry Sanders," now I know people around here are nuts. The problem with Barry Sanders is that he had to be hit over the head with reality to finally wake up - the Lions' organization wasn't trying to win. They used Sanders as a marquee centerpiece, wasted his career and screwed their fans, and it took them dismantling the team that went to the NFC championship by fluke to make Sanders realize what was going on. He was actually very polite in the way he retired, because the Lions deserve to be trashed in perpetuity for what they've been doing for decades.

Corey Dillon is no Barry Sanders on or off the field, but his situation was somewhat analogous. The Bengals were willing to use him up just like Detroit used up Sanders whether he towed the line or not. Dillon's problem is that he wears his emotions on his sleeve. Sanders looked up and saw that the Lions were dry-f*(#ing him and the fans, kept smiling, said "f*@# it" between clenched teeth, and walked away. Dillon had outbursts and threw tantrums - not cool, but he did get out. And it wasn't unreasonable for him and others to conclude that things hadn't necessarily changed because box-office mutiny and the NFL's embarrassment forced the Bengals to bring in Marvin Lewis and let him run things for a while.

Corey Dillon is not sophisticated enough or gracious enough a person to have constructively dealt with an organization and a city and a local media that have zealously been full of *$%# for a long time, so he blew up and disgraced himself. But, Corey Dillon is human and a much better than average athlete, and is showing that like any human being he can turn the page given a chance.

Nice guys really do bring up the rear in this world - look at your average CEO - pricks rise to the top. Sometimes you have to be a bastard to get what you want, especially if you're not so shrewd and slick that you can do it behind a facade of gentility. Sanders was Mr. Nice Guy on a team committed to sub-mediocrity until it became so blatant that even he had to make a choice, and he still gets pilloried by the blood-thirsty down-the-dial types. Dillon showed his natural ass and he's on a team threatening to win its third Super Bowl.

I guess that if Dillon was shrewd, he'd just keep kissing the Pats' feet for rescuing him, be a good fella up there, and privately sip a cognac and say, "so long suckers back in the sticks" with a chuckle. Adults don't need to explain themselves. The more I hear the down-the-dial types bitch, the more I like Dillon (I didn't care for him much before). By God, I hope that uppity so-and-so wins the Superbowl!!!! :D

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Dillon's problem is that he wears his emotions on his sleeve.

No, Dillon's problem is that he's an ass. A very talented ass, but an ass nonetheless.

Had the Pats stumbled this year, only the self-deluded believe that Dillon would still be running around the locker room issuing repeated and profuse thanks to any and all within range. No, had the Pats missed the playoffs Dillon would be off, incommunicado, to the West Coast, waiting for his looming $6 million cap number to trigger his release. He might have even gone on, say, a Seattle sports radio station to complain about Kraft and Belichick in an effort to grease the skids.

The bottom line, for me, anyhow, is that Corey Dillon came to Cincinnati and played some very good football. He set numerous record, some since broken, but still great achievements. Some have argued that he's Hall-of-Fame-worthy due in large part to his Cincy days; a Super Bowl ring, they believe, would simply seal the deal. And for all this was paid a sum of money that only a miniscule fraction of a fraction of the world's population could ever hope to see.

And to listen to him talk from 1997 through 2003, you'd think that this was the worst hell to which any living man had even been condemned.

Despite your repeated attempts to turn Dillon into a racial issue, this doesn't have anything to do with him being an "uppity-so-and-so." Black, white, red, yellow, brown, or any other color, an ass is still an ass.

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Dillon's problem is that he wears his emotions on his sleeve.

No, Dillon's problem is that he's an ass. A very talented ass, but an ass nonetheless.

Had the Pats stumbled this year, only the self-deluded believe that Dillon would still be running around the locker room issuing repeated and profuse thanks to any and all within range. No, had the Pats missed the playoffs Dillon would be off, incommunicado, to the West Coast, waiting for his looming $6 million cap number to trigger his release. He might have even gone on, say, a Seattle sports radio station to complain about Kraft and Belichick in an effort to grease the skids.

The bottom line, for me, anyhow, is that Corey Dillon came to Cincinnati and played some very good football. He set numerous record, some since broken, but still great achievements. Some have argued that he's Hall-of-Fame-worthy due in large part to his Cincy days; a Super Bowl ring, they believe, would simply seal the deal. And for all this was paid a sum of money that only a miniscule fraction of a fraction of the world's population could ever hope to see.

And to listen to him talk from 1997 through 2003, you'd think that this was the worst hell to which any living man had even been condemned.

Despite your repeated attempts to turn Dillon into a racial issue, this doesn't have anything to do with him being an "uppity-so-and-so." Black, white, red, yellow, brown, or any other color, an ass is still an ass.

A lot of people are asses, they just hide it. If he did the same, people would still be kissing his ass, and he'd be just as much an ass. A lot of these jocks are real asses, they just don't make the news.

Dillon was paid a sum of money to play in Cincinnati "that only a miniscule fraction of a fraction of the world's population could ever hope to see" because, like any NFL back that puts up a long string of 1,000 yard seasons, he was able to do something that only a fraction of a fraction of the world's population could ever hope to do. And his accomplishments and ability are relevant not because football holds some inherent meaning and sacredness, but rather because we live in a population that is addicted to spectacle. He provided the spectacle, he got paid, and he's the gift that keeps giving, because he's still giving you irritainment.

It may not have anything to do with him being an uppity-so-and-so, but up the dial it's just not a pre-occupation. That may not break down along racial lines, but it definitely breaks down along cultural lines. Besides that, some of us, regardless of race, understand how necessary it sometimes is to be an ass if you're going to survive or get what you want.

It's not that I defend Dillon. He needs no defense. If he wants to be an ass, that's his business. But just because there's something wrong with Dillon doesn't mean there's not something wrong with people that are fixated on him. If his former teammates and coaches aren't fixated on him, why should you be? So, since it's better to encourage than disparage, GO UPPITY SO-AND-SO GO!!!!!!

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Dillon was paid a sum of money to play in Cincinnati "that only a miniscule fraction of a fraction of the world's population could ever hope to see" because, like any NFL back that puts up a long string of 1,000 yard seasons, he was able to do something that only a fraction of a fraction of the world's population could ever hope to do.

That's quite true. But that does not change the fact that I had as little sympathy for Dillon when he whined about being a Bengal as he continued to draw a $5 million a year salary as I did for rock stars like Jackson Browne who sing about how tough it is to be a rock star on tour while standing in front of tens of thousands of people who paid hundreds to see your show. If there's a hell, and I end up there, I very much hope that I "suffer" just as badly as Dillon did in Cincy! :lol:

Besides that, some of us, regardless of race, understand how necessary it sometimes is to be an ass if you're going to survive or get what you want.

Perhaps, but the key word in your statement is "sometimes." Dillon never ceased being an ass, whether he got his way or not. And that's precisely Daughtery's observation, couched in the more family-friendly language that the "team player" Corey Dillon never showed up in Cincy, starting from the minute he was drafted.

But just because there's something wrong with Dillon doesn't mean there's not something wrong with people that are fixated on him.  If his former teammates and coaches aren't fixated on him, why should you be?

I'm not. And that's just the point -- Bengals fans, along with "an organization and a city and a local media that have zealously been full of *$%# for a long time," have by and large ignored Dillon since he left. Only when circumstances warrant, namely, when the Bengals and Pats played, did Dillon get any substantive local/organizational play. Or play on this board. I keep looking for people who are fixated on Corey, and (outside of New England and, this week, Pittsburgh) really can't find any.

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If he goes, he's taking you along since your head is so far up his rear. I wonder what the bust of that would look like? Kinda like a camel, I guess.

LMFAO :lol::lol::lol:

Despite your repeated attempts to turn Dillon into a racial issue, this doesn't have anything to do with him being an "uppity-so-and-so." Black, white, red, yellow, brown, or any other color, an ass is still an ass.

It's sad and pathetic!

I know why Corey is so happy now. He has Tubthumper and Dontpushme massaging his crank all the time. :lol::lol::lol::blink:

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More "down-the-dial" drivel. 

And, as for pulling a "Barry Sanders,"  now I know people around here are nuts.  The problem with Barry Sanders is that he had to be hit over the head with reality to finally wake up - the Lions' organization wasn't trying to win.  They used Sanders as a marquee centerpiece, wasted his career and screwed their fans, and it took them dismantling the team that went to the NFC championship by fluke to make Sanders realize what was going on.  He was actually very polite in the way he retired, because the Lions deserve to be trashed in perpetuity for what they've been doing for decades.

Corey Dillon is no Barry Sanders on or off the field, but his situation was somewhat analogous.  The Bengals were willing to use him up just like Detroit used up Sanders whether he towed the line or not.  Dillon's problem is that he wears his emotions on his sleeve.  Sanders looked up and saw that the Lions were dry-f*(#ing him and the fans, kept smiling, said "f*@# it" between clenched teeth, and walked away.  Dillon had outbursts and threw tantrums - not cool, but he did get out.  And it wasn't unreasonable for him and others to conclude that things hadn't necessarily changed because box-office mutiny and the NFL's embarrassment forced the Bengals to bring in Marvin Lewis and let him run things for a while.

Corey Dillon is not sophisticated enough or gracious enough a person to have constructively dealt with an organization and a city and a local media that have zealously been full of *$%# for a long time, so he blew up and disgraced himself.  But, Corey Dillon is human and a much better than average athlete, and is showing that like any human being he can turn the page given a chance. 

Nice guys really do bring up the rear in this world - look at your average CEO - pricks rise to the top.  Sometimes you have to be a bastard to get what you want, especially if you're not so shrewd and slick that you can do it behind a facade of gentility.  Sanders was Mr. Nice Guy on a team committed to sub-mediocrity until it became so blatant that even he had to make a choice, and he still gets pilloried by the blood-thirsty down-the-dial types.  Dillon showed his natural ass and he's on a team threatening to win its third Super Bowl. 

I guess that if Dillon was shrewd, he'd just keep kissing the Pats' feet for rescuing him, be a good fella up there, and privately sip a cognac and say, "so long suckers back in the sticks" with a chuckle.  Adults don't need to explain themselves.  The more I hear the down-the-dial types bitch, the more I like Dillon (I didn't care for him much before).  By God, I hope that uppity so-and-so wins the Superbowl!!!!  :D

Cory Dillon is a self centered ass with an anger problem...He's publicly denounced the whole team and city and for you to try and rationalize his behavior is ludicrous. Im glad he's gone he was a cancer to the team not to mention a wife beater to boot ...

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Aree you even a fan of the team TUbthumper. The guy said everything under the sun about his team, and that was BEFORE he signed a new contract. Thenhe signed a new contract and finally we were at the end of the season with a chance for the playoffs and this guy does nothing, then goes on national TV lobbying a trade to anywhere laughing about this franchise. DO you forget all of that. THAt articler hits it right on the head!!!!!!

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More "down-the-dial" drivel. 

And, as for pulling a "Barry Sanders,"  now I know people around here are nuts.  The problem with Barry Sanders is that he had to be hit over the head with reality to finally wake up - the Lions' organization wasn't trying to win.  They used Sanders as a marquee centerpiece, wasted his career and screwed their fans, and it took them dismantling the team that went to the NFC championship by fluke to make Sanders realize what was going on.  He was actually very polite in the way he retired, because the Lions deserve to be trashed in perpetuity for what they've been doing for decades.

Corey Dillon is no Barry Sanders on or off the field, but his situation was somewhat analogous.  The Bengals were willing to use him up just like Detroit used up Sanders whether he towed the line or not.  Dillon's problem is that he wears his emotions on his sleeve.  Sanders looked up and saw that the Lions were dry-f*(#ing him and the fans, kept smiling, said "f*@# it" between clenched teeth, and walked away.  Dillon had outbursts and threw tantrums - not cool, but he did get out.  And it wasn't unreasonable for him and others to conclude that things hadn't necessarily changed because box-office mutiny and the NFL's embarrassment forced the Bengals to bring in Marvin Lewis and let him run things for a while.

Corey Dillon is not sophisticated enough or gracious enough a person to have constructively dealt with an organization and a city and a local media that have zealously been full of *$%# for a long time, so he blew up and disgraced himself.  But, Corey Dillon is human and a much better than average athlete, and is showing that like any human being he can turn the page given a chance. 

Nice guys really do bring up the rear in this world - look at your average CEO - pricks rise to the top.  Sometimes you have to be a bastard to get what you want, especially if you're not so shrewd and slick that you can do it behind a facade of gentility.  Sanders was Mr. Nice Guy on a team committed to sub-mediocrity until it became so blatant that even he had to make a choice, and he still gets pilloried by the blood-thirsty down-the-dial types.  Dillon showed his natural ass and he's on a team threatening to win its third Super Bowl. 

I guess that if Dillon was shrewd, he'd just keep kissing the Pats' feet for rescuing him, be a good fella up there, and privately sip a cognac and say, "so long suckers back in the sticks" with a chuckle.  Adults don't need to explain themselves.  The more I hear the down-the-dial types bitch, the more I like Dillon (I didn't care for him much before).   By God, I hope that uppity so-and-so wins the Superbowl!!!!  :D

Cory Dillon is a self centered ass with an anger problem...He's publicly denounced the whole team and city and for you to try and rationalize his behavior is ludicrous. Im glad he's gone he was a cancer to the team not to mention a wife beater to boot ...

I don't care about the city, and the team is made up of big boys. They're not crying. Why should you? Or at least, why should you cry so DAMNED much?

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Aree you even a fan of the team TUbthumper. The guy said everything under the sun about his team, and that was BEFORE he signed a new contract. Thenhe signed a new contract and finally we were at the end of the season with a chance for the playoffs and this guy does nothing, then goes on national TV lobbying a trade to anywhere laughing about this franchise. DO you forget all of that. THAt articler hits it right on the head!!!!!!

I like football. I follow this team and root for it because it's close-by and I become familiar with the people on it and what they're trying to do. That doesn't mean that I lose sight of reality. A lot of the emotional hangups the fans have aren't shared by the players. Sure the players and coaches don't appreciate things like what Dillon did here, but most of them have enough perspective not to dwell on it. Life goes on.

I respect the fact that I don't have my hat in the arena. There are limits to what I have a right to be personally offended about because I don't really have more than a rhetorical interest in the whole proceeding to begin with. If Willie Anderson wants to grind his teeth and hate Corey Dillon for the rest of his life, more power to him. But if he doesn't, how much of a damned fool am I to do it for him? Either way, it's not my job nor my right, unless I just want to be a hateful, kvetching fool, and twice the ass that I perceive Dillon to be.

Dillon is just another ass-hole human being in the world. Most people will treat you nice until they reach the right threshold, and then they'll screw over you. So I look at Dillon and I look at the people that are just SO overwrought about how he besmirched the reputation of "THE TEAM AND THE CITY," and I know that these suckers will do a person in quicker than Dillon will, 'cause they come unhinged with NO pressure on them.

The short answer: I'm not a fan; I'm a CONNOISSEUR, got damn! :lol::lol::lol:

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More "down-the-dial" drivel. 

And, as for pulling a "Barry Sanders,"  now I know people around here are nuts.  The problem with Barry Sanders is that he had to be hit over the head with reality to finally wake up - the Lions' organization wasn't trying to win.  They used Sanders as a marquee centerpiece, wasted his career and screwed their fans, and it took them dismantling the team that went to the NFC championship by fluke to make Sanders realize what was going on.  He was actually very polite in the way he retired, because the Lions deserve to be trashed in perpetuity for what they've been doing for decades.

Corey Dillon is no Barry Sanders on or off the field, but his situation was somewhat analogous.  The Bengals were willing to use him up just like Detroit used up Sanders whether he towed the line or not.  Dillon's problem is that he wears his emotions on his sleeve.  Sanders looked up and saw that the Lions were dry-f*(#ing him and the fans, kept smiling, said "f*@# it" between clenched teeth, and walked away.  Dillon had outbursts and threw tantrums - not cool, but he did get out.  And it wasn't unreasonable for him and others to conclude that things hadn't necessarily changed because box-office mutiny and the NFL's embarrassment forced the Bengals to bring in Marvin Lewis and let him run things for a while.

Corey Dillon is not sophisticated enough or gracious enough a person to have constructively dealt with an organization and a city and a local media that have zealously been full of *$%# for a long time, so he blew up and disgraced himself.  But, Corey Dillon is human and a much better than average athlete, and is showing that like any human being he can turn the page given a chance. 

Nice guys really do bring up the rear in this world - look at your average CEO - pricks rise to the top.  Sometimes you have to be a bastard to get what you want, especially if you're not so shrewd and slick that you can do it behind a facade of gentility.  Sanders was Mr. Nice Guy on a team committed to sub-mediocrity until it became so blatant that even he had to make a choice, and he still gets pilloried by the blood-thirsty down-the-dial types.  Dillon showed his natural ass and he's on a team threatening to win its third Super Bowl. 

I guess that if Dillon was shrewd, he'd just keep kissing the Pats' feet for rescuing him, be a good fella up there, and privately sip a cognac and say, "so long suckers back in the sticks" with a chuckle.  Adults don't need to explain themselves.  The more I hear the down-the-dial types bitch, the more I like Dillon (I didn't care for him much before).   By God, I hope that uppity so-and-so wins the Superbowl!!!!  :D

Cory Dillon is a self centered ass with an anger problem...He's publicly denounced the whole team and city and for you to try and rationalize his behavior is ludicrous. Im glad he's gone he was a cancer to the team not to mention a wife beater to boot ...

I don't care about the city, and the team is made up of big boys. They're not crying. Why should you? Or at least, why should you cry so DAMNED much?

I think Willie Anderson was a bit peeved about the comments Dillon made about him getting on a liquid diet...how do you know the players werent becoming annoyed with his antics.. I know if I was on the team it would have pissed me off.

The man has a toubled past and that ugly head will surface again. Im glad it wont be in Cincinnati.

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I see you r position, but you got it all wrong. Players will come and go, they can only last for so long. But the fans live on forever. Why am I a bengals fan. Cause I'm from Ohio, and my Dad raised me as a bengals fan, cause his dad did the same. I don't dwell on Corey or hate him(in fact I'm getting sick of the corey threads alltogether) but when certain things get written like the ESPN article a fan can't help get a little bitter about. Same goes for these NE fans that think Corey has a halo on his head. They have no idea of how embarrassed the fans were that Corey was on the team to begin with. A lot of articles have been saying that Corey was the face of the team. Well, he wasn't unless it was in a negative light, he was just our best player. I realize that every man makes mistakes and reacts to situations differently, but who we are and how we act do not make you a man. It's the choices you make that define who you are and if you look at Dillon's choices over the years it's right there for everyone to see, he is not a team player, and to go even farther he is not a good man.

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I see you r position, but you got it all wrong. Players will come and go, they can only last for so long. But the fans live on forever. Why am I a bengals fan. Cause I'm from Ohio, and my Dad raised me as a bengals fan, cause his dad did the same. I don't dwell on Corey or hate him(in fact I'm getting sick of the corey threads alltogether) but when certain things get written like the ESPN article a fan can't help get a little bitter about. Same goes for these NE fans that think Corey has a halo on his head. They have no idea of how embarrassed the fans were that Corey was on the team to begin with. A lot of articles have been saying that Corey was the face of the team. Well, he wasn't unless it was in a negative light, he was just our best player. I realize that every man makes mistakes and reacts to situations differently, but who we are and how we act do not make you a man. It's the choices you make that define who you are and if you look at Dillon's choices over the years it's right there for everyone to see, he is not a team player, and to go even farther he is not a good man.

Amen to that...

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I loved the article. Just shows the bitterness runs dry and deep for that Daugherty guy. He must be going through a divorce and having some tough times. I just dont understand why he is writing about the guy and Dillon doesn't even play for them anymore??? You can really tell that it bothers him that Dillon is having success and only beause Dillon wanted to leave for greener pastures

Corey is now earnestly trying to make a fresh start of it, but then this guy from back in Cincinnati just dumps on him from afar. It seems that if it were up to this Daugherty guy, no one would ever allowed a chance to redeem themselves.

And just no appreciation of the fact that no matter what, Dillon always played hard. He wouldn't have those records if he didn't.

Something to ponder....

I wonder how many skeletons Daugherty has in his closet or anyone else for that matter?

Get over Daugherty, write about your bengals, Dillon is a Patriot.

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