Draft Order for '05 draft.

[jjakq27]

I was watching Sportscenter and they said the first three picks are as follows:

1. SF

2. Miami

3. Cleveland

I am sure the NFL will post the remainder of the first 20 teams in the next day or so.

[jjakq27]

I did a little organizing and came up with the following list of teams based on their record and if they made the playoffs or not. It looks like the Bengals will pick at

around 16 or 17 (again) in the draft.

Please note that I did not figure out the tiebreakers to get the teams in the exact order and the order of the Playoff Teams will be determined as the playoffs are played.

2-14

San Francisco

4-12

Miami

Cleveland

5-11

Chicago

*NY Giants (5-10, pending Sunday night game)-*NY Giants have traded their pick to San Diego

Oakland

Tampa Bay

Tennessee

6-10

Arizona

**Dallas (6-9, pending Sunday night game)-**Buffalo have traded their pick to Dallas

Detroit

Washington

7-9

Carolina

Houston

Kansas City

8-8

Cincinnati

New Orleans

9-7

Baltimore

**Buffalo-**Buffalo have traded their pick to Dallas

Jacksonville

Playoff Teams

8-8

Minnesota

St. Louis

9-7

Seattle

10-6

Denver

Green Bay

NY Jets

11-5

Atlanta

12-4

Indianapolis

*San Diego-*NY Giants have traded their pick to San Diego

13-3

Philadlephia

14-2

New England

15-1

Pittsburgh

[jjakq27]

From ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/feature/feat...page=nfldraft05

[JPW]

I don't know WTF ESPN is talking about.

The Rams and Vikings are play-off teams.

We Draft in the 17th slot...

Same as last year...

As a matter of fact check this link for the Correct order.

Draft Order

[jjakq27]

I saw that too. But shouldn't Minnesota Vikings (8-8) and the Rams (8-8) be lower than the Jags (9-7) and Ravens (9-7) since they made the playoffs?

[JPW]

I saw that too.  But shouldn't Minnesota Vikings (8-8) and the Rams (8-8) be lower than the Jags (9-7) and Ravens (9-7) since they made the playoffs?

There seems to be some confusion about that.

But either way it won't effect us...

[HoosierCat]

We pick 17th. The first 20 draft picks are set after the regular season. The next 12 go to the playoff teams in order of their elimination with, of course, the SB winner getting No. 32.

[jjakq27]

From NFL.com

I am still not sure how the Rams and Vikings are able to draft ahead of the Ravens Bills and Jaguars since they are in the playoffs but I guess it is strictly based on record except for the two teams in the Super Bowl.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8063536

No. Club Win Loss Tie Percent Strength of

Schedule Opp. Record

1. San Francisco 2 14 0 .125 .488 125-131-0

2. Miami 4 12 0 .250 .555 142-114-0

3. Cleveland 4 12 0 .250 .590 151-105-0

4. Chicago 5 11 0 .313 .465 119-137-0

5. Tampa Bay 5 11 0 .313 .477 122-134-0

6. Tennessee 5 11 0 .313 .512 131-125-0

7. Oakland 5 11 0 .313 .570 146-110-0

8. Arizona 6 10 0 .375 .461 118-138-0

9. Washington 6 10 0 .375 .477 122-134-0

10. Detroit 6 10 0 .375 .496 127-129-0

11. Dallas # 6 10 0 .375 .516 132-124-0

12. N.Y. Giants

(to San Diego) 6 10 0 .375 .516 132-124-0

13. Houston 7 9 0 .438 .504 129-127-0

14. Carolina 7 9 0 .438 .508 130-126-0

15. Kansas City 7 9 0 .438 .551 141-115-0

16. New Orleans 8 8 0 .500 .465 119-137-0

17. Cincinnati 8 8 0 .500 .543 139-117-0

18. Minnesota * 8 8 0 .500 .480 123-133-0

19. St. Louis * 8 8 0 .500 .488 125-131-0

20. Buffalo

(to Dallas) 9 7 0 .563 .512 131-125-0

21. Jacksonville 9 7 0 .563 .527 135-121-0

22. Baltimore 9 7 0 .563 .551 141-115-0

23. Seattle * 9 7 0 .563 .445 114-142-0

24. Green Bay * 10 6 0 .625 .457 117-139-0

25. Denver * 10 6 0 .625 .484 124-132-0

26. N.Y. Jets * 10 6 0 .625 .523 134-122-0

27. Atlanta * 11 5 0 .688 .434 111-145-0

28. San Diego * 12 4 0 .750 .477 122-134-0

29. Indianapolis * 12 4 0 .750 .500 128-128-0

* Subject to Playoffs

# Dallas selects before N.Y. Giants due to division tiebreaker (Giants led in head-to-head, defeating Cowboys twice).

[HoosierCat]

I stand corrected.

[chrishcovga]

Good spot to be in, just like last year. Last year after we traded down to get Deltha' , we saw studs like

Will Smith fall to # 18

Vince Wilfork to # 21

Keneche Udeze to # 19

Gotta love the fact we could see an elite player still be there again for us !

* Cross your fingers it's Mike Williams...