daquixers Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I dont understand this at all. There is all this crazy smack and no one wants to talk real facts.Buffalo's Offense: 25thCinci's Defense: 27thAdvantage: BuffaloCinci's Offense: 15thBuffalo's Defense: 3rdAdvantage: BuffaloIt should be a close game. Buffalo's defense is easily in the TOPS of the game and there special teams is better than ANY team bar none. That being said, Cinci's offense is starting to come on, but there defense isnt that good and either is there Special Teams. Should be a good game.Bledsoe vs Kitna --- TieMcGahee vs Johsnon --- McGahee (ESPN calls him the best RB in the NFL right now)Moulds vs Johnson --- Tie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 C.J is the 1st rated REC. in AFC per AOL with 80 recp. and 1151 yds. so I think we might have the edge there. And TJ has been really coming on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 C.J is the 1st rated REC. in AFC per AOL with 80 recp. and 1151 yds. so I think we might have the edge there. And TJ has been really coming on... Eric Moulds has been one of the best WR's in the NFL for the past 6 years ... he is constantly in the pro-bowl and is constantly double covered (because he has a rookie on the other side of him). Chad has Houshmanzedah on the other side so it helps him ...Im not into smack, so dont expect to much from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 C.J is the 1st rated REC. in AFC per AOL with 80 recp. and 1151 yds. so I think we might have the edge there. And TJ has been really coming on... TJ's emergence over the last month is I think a major reason for the success of the offense overall. I'm looking forward to seeing him in this game because while the Bills D is going to be a good test, they are not known for taking the " cheap shots " that he's had to put up with vs several of our recent opponents. Loved his comment on the catch in the last game " I'm going to give up my body to make that catch ". Now if we can get PW back healthy next year ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 C.J is the 1st rated REC. in AFC per AOL with 80 recp. and 1151 yds. so I think we might have the edge there. And TJ has been really coming on...TJ's emergence over the last month is I think a major reason for the success of the offense overall. I'm looking forward to seeing him in this game because while the Bills D is going to be a good test, they are not known for taking the " cheap shots " that he's had to put up with vs several of our recent opponents. Loved his comment on the catch in the last game " I'm going to give up my body to make that catch ". Now if we can get PW back healthy next year ........ Yeah. Should be a good game. #3 ranked defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Yeah. Should be a good game. #3 ranked defense. Now it's #3? All this week I've been hearing #1! Which is it Bills fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Yeah. Should be a good game. #3 ranked defense.Now it's #3? All this week I've been hearing #1! Which is it Bills fans? Some Bills fans consider our defense the best, becuase we play tough teams like NE (2x) , Jets (2x) , Pitt , Jack ... etcBut OFFICIALLY the defense is ranked #3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 You guys have to look at how many top defenses we've already faced though(balt twice, pittsburgh twice, New England, Miami, Denver, Wasington Etc) We may not have won all of those games but we moved the ball very efficiently. The Bills #3 defense os good, but is not the advantage you guys might think it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 You guys have to look at how many top defenses we've already faced though(balt twice, pittsburgh twice, New England, Miami, Denver, Wasington Etc) We may not have won all of those games but we moved the ball very efficiently. The Bills #3 defense os good, but is not the advantage you guys might think it is. Yeah. I'm not into smack. Im just gonna stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Yeah. I'm not into smack. Im just gonna stop. Please don't! You're about the only Bills fan here that's keepin' it real! (No smack intended!) Thanks for officially updating the defensive ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daquixers Posted December 18, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Yeah. I'm not into smack. Im just gonna stop.Please don't! You're about the only Bills fan here that's keepin' it real! (No smack intended!) Thanks for officially updating the defensive ranking. No problem man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willisdownyathroat Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I love Moulds, but Johnson is definitely a better player at this point in time. Mcgahee is better than Rudi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 That really wasn't smack, just making a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Just an interesting point here, but you guys say your excellent play recently could be closely related to the emergence of TJ. The Bills have also gotten a spark in the recieving game from Lee Evans, although to a lesser extent because its probaly more the improvement in the O line and Willis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 But OFFICIALLY the defense is ranked #3. PLEASE start saying DEFENSE AGAINST YARDS. You're #9 on scoring defense -- the stat that actually matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 But OFFICIALLY the defense is ranked #3.PLEASE start saying DEFENSE AGAINST YARDS. You're #9 on scoring defense -- the stat that actually matters. If you actually saw them play you would know we are nowhere near #9 in defense. You have any idea how long they were on the field earlier this season? We didnt score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 If you actually saw them play you would know we are nowhere near #9 in defense. You should send an e-mail to NFL.com and let them know your scoring defense "should" be ranked higher because, well, it's the Bills. http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...NG/2004/regular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Let me ask you this, last year the bills were higher ranked then the ravens on defense. Who would you have taken? Stats mean s**t buddy. Our d is VASTLY improved from last year..they're just dominate and you'll see that tommorrow. And look what you did to my post, you only answered what you wanted to, to make your post look better. So have you seen the bills play this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalboomer7 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 HERe's some few facts for you guys(easy one too) and a few guesses I think you'll agree with1. Despite your accusations of the Bill being awesome they are still 7-62. Despite our accusations of the Bengals being awesome we are still 6-7 (Although if you knew how bad it's been to be a fan, to years of being .500 would be a big step foreard for our franchise as a whole)3. Both teams had really bad starts to the year and BOth teams are hitting their strides right now4. Even though you might be favored, we actually play great at home and that should give us a small advantage.5. This will be a close game. Buffalo's defense is not going to dominate us and you guys will put up some points on our mediocre defense5. All of this probably means this will be a close game.I am a bengals fan so of course I'm going to pick them, but it will be a tough contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I dont understand this at all. There is all this crazy smack and no one wants to talk real facts.Buffalo's Offense: 25thCinci's Defense: 27thAdvantage: BuffaloCinci's Offense: 15thBuffalo's Defense: 3rdAdvantage: BuffaloIt should be a close game. Buffalo's defense is easily in the TOPS of the game and there special teams is better than ANY team bar none. That being said, Cinci's offense is starting to come on, but there defense isnt that good and either is there Special Teams. Should be a good game.Bledsoe vs Kitna --- TieMcGahee vs Johsnon --- McGahee (ESPN calls him the best RB in the NFL right now)Moulds vs Johnson --- TieI don`t know where you got those rankings ? The Bengals are ranked 14TH overall in Offense and they have the 24TH overall Defense.http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-...ar?sort_col_1=4http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...ar?sort_col_1=4So your 1st post should read. Buffalo's Offense: 25thCinci's Defense: 24th Advantage BENGALSThen it should go on to sayCinci's Offense: 14thBuffalo's Defense: 3rdAdvantage BENGALSBecause the Bengals have played 9 games against top 10 Defenses.They have played 4 games against teams that had the #1 ranked Defense that week and we went 3-1 in those game. We are 4-2at home this season and 10-4 overall at home since Marvin Lewis became the Head Coach. The Bills are 2-4 on the road this season with their 2 road wins coming at the hands of the Dolphins and Seahawks. Record of Buffalo's last four opponents: 18-34Record of Bengal's last four opponents: 35-17Kitna= better than BledsoeMcGahee has a lower average yards per carry than RudiAnd Moulds better than Chad Johnson is f**king laughable ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Just an interesting point here, but you guys say your excellent play recently could be closely related to the emergence of TJ. The Bills have also gotten a spark in the recieving game from Lee Evans, although to a lesser extent because its probaly more the improvement in the O line and Willis.Back to the topic. Emergence of TJ has meant that the opponents have had to stop dbl teaming CJ. They still do in situations, and TJ has consistently made them pay for it. As with your O line, same can be said of ours. Problem with them is that they haven't been able to achieve the consistency yet ... but in their defense, they haven't been all that healthy all year either. Lastly Palmer was getting in sync with the receivers and the line and that made all the difference in the world. I really am looking forward to the game because like the other guys have noted .. we've played a lot of the top defenses and according to all the pundits yours is not only top rated but on a roll as well. We're coming out of the wasteland ( finally ) and to be the best ....we have to play and beat the best. If we win tomorrow, then we can say we're on our way ...... If we lose we'll just have to see why and do what needs to be done to fix it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I don`t know where you got those rankings ? The Bengals are ranked 14TH overall in Offense and they have the 24TH overall Defense.http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/OFF-...ar?sort_col_1=4http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-...ar?sort_col_1=4So your 1st post should read. Buffalo's Offense: 25thCinci's Defense: 24th Advantage BENGALSThen it should go on to sayCinci's Offense: 14thBuffalo's Defense: 3rdAdvantage BENGALSBecause the Bengals have played 9 games against top 10 Defenses.They have played 4 games against teams that had the #1 ranked Defense that week and we went 3-1 in those game. We are 4-2at home this season and 10-4 overall at home since Marvin Lewis became the Head Coach. The Bills are 2-4 on the road this season with their 2 road wins coming at the hands of the Dolphins and Seahawks. Record of Buffalo's last four opponents: 18-34Record of Bengal's last four opponents: 35-17Kitna= better than BledsoeMcGahee has a lower average yards per carry than RudiAnd Moulds better than Chad Johnson is f**king laughable ! This gets my vote for Post of the year... !!!!Damn somebody get Old Schooler a Beer, and somebody get that other guy the Jaws of Life to help him get his foot out of his mouth ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 OLD SCHOOLER you rule dude!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Fact of the matter is you can throw out all the stats and all that will matter is the score of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Antonio Bengal Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I dont understand this at all. There is all this crazy smack and no one wants to talk real facts.Buffalo's Offense: 25thCinci's Defense: 27thAdvantage: BuffaloCinci's Offense: 15thBuffalo's Defense: 3rdAdvantage: BuffaloIt should be a close game. Buffalo's defense is easily in the TOPS of the game and there special teams is better than ANY team bar none. That being said, Cinci's offense is starting to come on, but there defense isnt that good and either is there Special Teams. Should be a good game.Your so-called "facts" lie somewhat. It doesn't make sense to compare a ranking on offense to a ranking on defense. They're apples and oranges. Look at the actual yards gained/allowed.Cin Offense: 332.6 yds/game; 22.8 pts/gameBuf Defense: 269.4 yds/game; 17.8 pts allowed/gameBuf Offense: 290.1 yds/game; 22.8 pts/gameCin Defense: 345.0 yds/game; 23.6 pts allowed/gameIf everything adverages out, Buffalo will have about 15 more yards of offense than Cincinnati and Buffalo would score 23 points to Cincinati's 20. There's a slight edge for Buffalo, but nothing more. Once you factor in the home field advantage for Cincy, it's very very even.Buffalo's special teams are better than ANY other team out there?!?! What kinda kool-aid have you been drinkin? Punting:Cin - 65 punts; 21 inside the 20; 36.2 net avg; 42.1 gross avgBuf - 65 punts; 16 inside the 20; 32.9 net avg; 40.9 gross avgKick Returns:Cin - 8.9 yds avg (punt returns); 19.6 yds avg (kickoff returns)Buf - 8.5 yds avg (punt returns); 19.1 yds avg (kickoff returns)Kicking:Cin - 24/27 FG; 53 yds (long); 32/32 XPT; 104 PTSBuf - 17/20 FG; 43 yds (long); 34/34 XPT; 85 PTSOf course, all of this is on paper, which is why they play the game! It'll be a hard-fought, blue collar kind of game -- the way football should be played. Cincinnati will win on a FG in OT, 27 - 24. :player: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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