McGaheeRocks Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 looks like your defense could use a Spikes... they are awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrooks21 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 looks like your defense could use a Spikes... they are awful. your offense could use a hell of alot more too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGaheeRocks Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 so 37 points a game the last 4 games isn't good enough??Then you must think the Browns really suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsOwn Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 so 37 points a game the last 4 games isn't good enough??Then you must think the Browns really suck. Wow, you did that against a very tough Rams defense, a Seahawks team that is fading away fast, the Dolphins who have 2 victories all season, and against the Browns.DAMN THAT'S ONE HELL OF AN OFFENSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGaheeRocks Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 we scored a hell of alot more points on the dolphins than recent teams have... teams that were suppose to be better than us...Since when does strength of Victory mean anything in the NFL...any given sunday my man..and I meant the Bengals... i get you two confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGaheeRocks Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 back to the topic...Spikes is #6 Hard Hitter..http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3244150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willisdownyathroat Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 HAHA! This poster is clearly hoping for its readers to be ignorant. He conveneintly leaves out TKO's stats. He has 3 interceptions, 3 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, and returned one of his INT's for a TD. If anything, he is underrated. Based on this season, he may very well be the best linebacker in football. He's an animal.Dream on, dream on....dream until your dream comes true.....BTW the sacks are on there. This guy has seen better days. Don't kid yourself, we used to hear that talk about "being the best LB" here also. Towards the end of the season (2001?) Ray Lewis came to town and put that myth to rest for that year.What was your record before TKO? and after, 5-11. Ours was 2-14 during his last year and 8-8 without him last year. Sounds like you guys have been duped!!!!Bring back Shane Conlan, C. Bennett and Darrell Talley. Those are guys that could back it up. Spikes is a rising star in this league because he's finally on a team thats going to be able to win in the long run. He's the most athletically gifted linebacker I've ever seen play the game. You poor guys are clearly just upset that he dissed you. I dont blame you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willisdownyathroat Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 fYou are an idiot.If so, that should be easy to show. I said he's inconsistent and doesn't show up in big games. Well, let's take a look...v. Jax: 6 tackles, 1 pass defensed. Ho-hum day against average team.v. Oakland: 5 tackles. Poor day vs. poor team.v. NE: 9 tackles (5 solo, 4 assist). Goes "poof" vs. good team.v. Jets: 5 tackles. Another vanishing act v. good team.v. Miami: 2 tackles, 1 pick for a TD, 3 passes defensed. Great day v. crappy team.v. Baltimore: 11 tackles (9 solo), 1 sack. Probably best performance v. a good team all year.v. Arizona: 6 tackles. Another unimpressive day vs. a crappy team.v. Jets: 6 tackles. Good team = where'd Spikes go?.v. NE: 11 tackles (6 solo). Takeo who?. v. St. Louis: 7 tackles, 3 passes defensed. Another great day v. a crappy team.v. Seattle: 4 tackles, a sick, 3 passes defensed. Yet another great day against a crappy team.v. Miami: 3 tackles, 1 pick, 2 passes defensed, a forced fumble. Too bad the Bills don't play Miami every week.v. Cleveland: 5 tackles and a forced fumble. Crappy team and not even that great a day.He is better than any LB on your team.His numbers and Simmons' numbers are comparable. In fact, nfl.com lists Simmons at 20 and Spikes at 27. Either youre lying or you have a bad site. Spikes had a sick sack against Cleveland. Get more accurate facts and try again. Spikes is just a physical specimen that has to be gameplanned against each week. Nobody on Cincy even comes close to his athleticism. He has more passes defended than Cincys corners. He has more tackles for loss than Cincys defensive lineman. We see the stats. We ssee the man. We see the Warrior. He has helped tranform Buffalo into a dominant defense. He is a gamechanger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubThumper Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 f You are an idiot.If so, that should be easy to show. I said he's inconsistent and doesn't show up in big games. Well, let's take a look...v. Jax: 6 tackles, 1 pass defensed. Ho-hum day against average team.v. Oakland: 5 tackles. Poor day vs. poor team.v. NE: 9 tackles (5 solo, 4 assist). Goes "poof" vs. good team.v. Jets: 5 tackles. Another vanishing act v. good team.v. Miami: 2 tackles, 1 pick for a TD, 3 passes defensed. Great day v. crappy team.v. Baltimore: 11 tackles (9 solo), 1 sack. Probably best performance v. a good team all year.v. Arizona: 6 tackles. Another unimpressive day vs. a crappy team.v. Jets: 6 tackles. Good team = where'd Spikes go?.v. NE: 11 tackles (6 solo). Takeo who?. v. St. Louis: 7 tackles, 3 passes defensed. Another great day v. a crappy team.v. Seattle: 4 tackles, a sick, 3 passes defensed. Yet another great day against a crappy team.v. Miami: 3 tackles, 1 pick, 2 passes defensed, a forced fumble. Too bad the Bills don't play Miami every week.v. Cleveland: 5 tackles and a forced fumble. Crappy team and not even that great a day.He is better than any LB on your team.His numbers and Simmons' numbers are comparable. In fact, nfl.com lists Simmons at 20 and Spikes at 27. Either youre lying or you have a bad site. Spikes had a sick sack against Cleveland. Get more accurate facts and try again. Spikes is just a physical specimen that has to be gameplanned against each week. Nobody on Cincy even comes close to his athleticism. He has more passes defended than Cincys corners. He has more tackles for loss than Cincys defensive lineman. We see the stats. We ssee the man. We see the Warrior. He has helped tranform Buffalo into a dominant defense. He is a gamechanger. Maybe your problem is that you see the man. Just because a guy has a torso-sized neck, a cock-eye and slobbers a lot doesn't mean he's Super Man. It coud bbe just that he's a friggin' retard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalady Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I am pretty sad that T. Spikes wanted to leave, but his attitude and his huge neck just did not fit in the picture. I will not say he is not good, because he is. But we don't need him and I think we have proved that 2 fold.Best of luck to him and I hope we smash his face in tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nasty Mcgahee Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 HAHA! This poster is clearly hoping for its readers to be ignorant. He conveneintly leaves out TKO's stats. He has 3 interceptions, 3 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, and returned one of his INT's for a TD. If anything, he is underrated. Based on this season, he may very well be the best linebacker in football. He's an animal.Dream on, dream on....dream until your dream comes true.....BTW the sacks are on there. This guy has seen better days. Don't kid yourself, we used to hear that talk about "being the best LB" here also. Towards the end of the season (2001?) Ray Lewis came to town and put that myth to rest for that year.What was your record before TKO? and after, 5-11. Ours was 2-14 during his last year and 8-8 without him last year. Sounds like you guys have been duped!!!!Bring back Shane Conlan, C. Bennett and Darrell Talley. Those are guys that could back it up. Ray lewis.... ray lewis .... why do i know that name?... Oh... thats right! He's the guy that Willis Mcgahee knocked on his a$$ with a NASTY stiff arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 HAHA! This poster is clearly hoping for its readers to be ignorant. He conveneintly leaves out TKO's stats. He has 3 interceptions, 3 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, and returned one of his INT's for a TD. If anything, he is underrated. Based on this season, he may very well be the best linebacker in football. He's an animal.Dream on, dream on....dream until your dream comes true.....BTW the sacks are on there. This guy has seen better days. Don't kid yourself, we used to hear that talk about "being the best LB" here also. Towards the end of the season (2001?) Ray Lewis came to town and put that myth to rest for that year.What was your record before TKO? and after, 5-11. Ours was 2-14 during his last year and 8-8 without him last year. Sounds like you guys have been duped!!!!Bring back Shane Conlan, C. Bennett and Darrell Talley. Those are guys that could back it up. Ray lewis.... ray lewis .... why do i know that name?... Oh... thats right! He's the guy that Willis Mcgahee knocked on his a$$ with a NASTY stiff arm. Yeah so did Eddie George last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I wouldn't say that Spikes is over - rated as much as I would over - hyped. Spikes is a dam good linebacker. He is one on many dam good linebackers. His supporters here and there love him and turn a blind eye to his shortcomings ( don't even try to tell me that he doesn't have any ) and his detractors focus soley on his shortcomings without thought to the circumstances under which he was / is playing .... supporting cast etc. In short he's not as good as a lot of people are making him out to be and he's not as bad as the other side of the coins is saying either. His rating ...NFL.com etc. is based on performance and is a good indicator. The article on "hard hitters "ike all articles is subjective. Entertaining and with a basis in fact but that's about it. Best I can say is that considering the people we picked up combined with the fact that he wanted to leave ..... I'm glad he's gone ... and we didn't do too badly. Bills needed a role playing linebacker and they got one so they made out as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willisdownyathroat Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I wouldn't say that Spikes is over - rated as much as I would over - hyped. Spikes is a dam good linebacker. He is one on many dam good linebackers. His supporters here and there love him and turn a blind eye to his shortcomings ( don't even try to tell me that he doesn't have any ) and his detractors focus soley on his shortcomings without thought to the circumstances under which he was / is playing .... supporting cast etc. In short he's not as good as a lot of people are making him out to be and he's not as bad as the other side of the coins is saying either. His rating ...NFL.com etc. is based on performance and is a good indicator. The article on "hard hitters "ike all articles is subjective. Entertaining and with a basis in fact but that's about it. Best I can say is that considering the people we picked up combined with the fact that he wanted to leave ..... I'm glad he's gone ... and we didn't do too badly. Bills needed a role playing linebacker and they got one so they made out as well. Those ratings are not only innacurate, but are terribly misleading. Bills DE Aaron Schobel is the 4th best defensive lineman in the NFL based on those rankings. He's a quality DE, but certainly not the 4th best. Spikes is one of the top 5 players at the position and is an emotional leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Ratings, stats, blah blah blah.You're 7-6, we're 6-7, you're coming to Cincy. Strap it up and let's have some fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Kirk, PLEASE be careful when you invite a Bills fan to strap it on. They have been taking it from behind for so longer they could easily misinterpret your meaning. The result would be a very embarrassing and awkward situation. Just lookin out for ya man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsfan2 Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I wouldn't say that Spikes is over - rated as much as I would over - hyped. Spikes is a dam good linebacker. He is one on many dam good linebackers. His supporters here and there love him and turn a blind eye to his shortcomings ( don't even try to tell me that he doesn't have any ) and his detractors focus soley on his shortcomings without thought to the circumstances under which he was / is playing .... supporting cast etc. In short he's not as good as a lot of people are making him out to be and he's not as bad as the other side of the coins is saying either. His rating ...NFL.com etc. is based on performance and is a good indicator. The article on "hard hitters "ike all articles is subjective. Entertaining and with a basis in fact but that's about it. Best I can say is that considering the people we picked up combined with the fact that he wanted to leave ..... I'm glad he's gone ... and we didn't do too badly. Bills needed a role playing linebacker and they got one so they made out as well.Those ratings are not only innacurate, but are terribly misleading. Bills DE Aaron Schobel is the 4th best defensive lineman in the NFL based on those rankings. He's a quality DE, but certainly not the 4th best. Spikes is one of the top 5 players at the position and is an emotional leader. Gotta love it.Fellow football fans ... Bengals ... Bills et al ..... Please use this post as proof of the observation. Stats are over rated and misleading. None of the record matters. " Spikes is one of the top 5 players at the position and is and emotional leader" .... the unspoken end of this sentence would be " because I like him and I want him to be ". Not over - rated, but most definitely over - hyped. Point observed ... put forth ..... verified and proven by response. Point proven ... case closed .... matter ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richmond_mat Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 I wouldn't say that Spikes is over - rated as much as I would over - hyped. Spikes is a dam good linebacker. He is one on many dam good linebackers. His supporters here and there love him and turn a blind eye to his shortcomings ( don't even try to tell me that he doesn't have any ) and his detractors focus soley on his shortcomings without thought to the circumstances under which he was / is playing .... supporting cast etc. In short he's not as good as a lot of people are making him out to be and he's not as bad as the other side of the coins is saying either. His rating ...NFL.com etc. is based on performance and is a good indicator. The article on "hard hitters "ike all articles is subjective. Entertaining and with a basis in fact but that's about it. Best I can say is that considering the people we picked up combined with the fact that he wanted to leave ..... I'm glad he's gone ... and we didn't do too badly. Bills needed a role playing linebacker and they got one so they made out as well.Those ratings are not only innacurate, but are terribly misleading. Bills DE Aaron Schobel is the 4th best defensive lineman in the NFL based on those rankings. He's a quality DE, but certainly not the 4th best. Spikes is one of the top 5 players at the position and is an emotional leader. Gotta love it.Fellow football fans ... Bengals ... Bills et al ..... Please use this post as proof of the observation. Stats are over rated and misleading. None of the record matters. " Spikes is one of the top 5 players at the position and is and emotional leader" .... the unspoken end of this sentence would be " because I like him and I want him to be ". Not over - rated, but most definitely over - hyped. Point observed ... put forth ..... verified and proven by response. Point proven ... case closed .... matter ended. Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiotter Posted December 18, 2004 Report Share Posted December 18, 2004 Man I hated to see SPIKES go he was one of my favorites!! But I bet no one ever leaves BUFFALO?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaker Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Man I hated to see SPIKES go he was one of my favorites!! But I bet no one ever leaves BUFFALO?? Everybody who can leave Buffalo already has. The ones who are left have spent all their money on Genny Light beer and cant afford gas money for their 1972 AMC Pacer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewsTheMan Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Now is there anyone after the game today that still thinks Takeo Spikes is overrated? I hope not because he just dominated Kitna and the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierCat Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Now is there anyone after the game today that still thinks Takeo Spikes is overrated? I hope not because he just dominated Kitna and the Bengals. 2 tackles, 1 assist, and catching a ball thrown right to him is dominating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl12 Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Oh yeah he is sooooooo overated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewsTheMan Posted December 19, 2004 Report Share Posted December 19, 2004 Joisey I think ur just mad because the Bengals got crushed by the Bills. And I remember hearing all week how the Bills would not come to the jungle and win. And most of you Bengals fans are just pissed cause the Bengals got crushed at home.Also, I believe returning an int for a touchdown is pretty dominating but I guess you wouldn't know cause no one on your team did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willisdownyathroat Posted December 20, 2004 Report Share Posted December 20, 2004 Was that good enough for you sons? TKO is a game changer. One of the top 5 LB's in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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