cocky Bills Fans

slowtwitch · December 15, 2004

I have been lurking the Bills Forums and their fans are incredibly cocky about their teams ability to smash the Bengals. The irony to me is that the very good teams we played (like the Pats, Steelers, Ravens), their fans were much more concerned about losing to the bengals because they acknowledged the fact that we have improved so much the past 2 years. These guys see us as the same "old Bungles". That's fine, it will make our victory that much sweeter.

WillisXPress · December 15, 2004

Here's the thing. We beat you last year without McGahee or Evans and our line was way worse and our D wasn't as good, they were still pretty good though. Now we have a better O and a Better D and the best special teams in the league.

You say we haven't beaten anyone but the teams we did beat we dominated.

Carson may give you another dimension you didn't have last year but he may not even play. What has changed from last season.

The_Next_Big_Thing · December 15, 2004

The defense has a whole new secondary, and they are creating turnovers.

The offense has twice the receivers they had last year, and two quarterbacks that get them the ball.

Rudi Johnson is running better than your great and mighty savior, McGayhe.

This is the second year under Marvin Lewis, and everyone now believes they can win any game. Last year, they tried to believe, but the "we are the bungles, it's ok to just come close" mentality was still lurking, and there was a cancer in the locker room named Leon.

comstock · December 15, 2004

Buffalo has shown a couple things this year, they can't beat NE, they can't beat baltimore, and week 17 they'll show they can't beat pittsburgh.

So good luck if you manage to make it to the playoffs, it will be short lived.

WillisXPress · December 15, 2004

Rudi Johnson better than McGahee? Support that with facts please.

You had the same recievers last year didn't you? CJ and Housh for sure.

As far as turnovers both our teams have improved but we have a slightly better margin, although you have created one more.

thethoughfulnuffalo · December 15, 2004

Last time I checked 27 out of 28 teams had a tough time playing New England and as far as your Beloved Ravens, Henry started the the Baltimore game, not to take away anything from the Guy but Mc Gahee makes our offense a little deeper.

We were in that garbage of a game the whole time, We turned the ball over 5 times and had redzone trouble. You go back to the first New England game we were in it the whole time up to the point of the 4th and 3 bootleg call in which we turned the rock over and they scored making the score 31-17. It was a last minute score which padded the victory a little bit. New England did school us when we played them on Sunday night though and we layed the candid egg, but Mularky's got these boys believing so its going to be tougher then some of the Bengal entourage thinks.

I think this will be a good game on Sunday I am not forecasting a Blow out at all, IMO i think we have what it takes to beat Cincinnati !! If you've watched our games all year you would realize the possibility is likely, But all these threads of a bengal massacre are irrelevant football analysis.

The_Next_Big_Thing · December 15, 2004

Rudi Johnson better than McGahee? Support that with facts please.
You had the same recievers last year didn't you? CJ and Housh for sure.
As far as turnovers both our teams have improved but we have a slightly better margin, although you have created one more.

TJ Alphabet was on IR all last year. He's back and rocking now.

Rudi better than McGayhe? You want facts?

Rudi Johnson 1194 yards averaging 4.1 yards per carry.

McGayhe 922 yards averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.

McGayhe 37 yards vs. New England.

Johnson 89 yards vs. New England.

Enjoy!

As for turnovers, the only reason your margin is better is because our quarterback threw lots of interceptions early in his first starting season. What's Drew Bledsoe, a 12 year veteran's excuse? Palmer, in his first year as a starter is having a better year!

thethoughfulnuffalo · December 15, 2004

You might want to add that Rudi Johnson has started all 13 games

and Willis has started 8

WillisXPress · December 15, 2004

Rudi Johnson 1194 yards averaging 4.1 yards per carry.
McGayhe 922 yards averaging only 3.8 yards per carry.
McGayhe 37 yards vs. New England.
Johnson 89 yards vs. New England.
Enjoy!
As for turnovers, the only reason your margin is better is because our quarterback threw lots of interceptions early in his first starting season. What's Drew Bledsoe, a 12 year veteran's excuse? Palmer, in his first year as a starter is having a better year!

Well if you can use the rookie excuse for Palmer I can for Mcgahee as far as YPC goes, but I really don't even need it.

Willis has alot of negative or 0 yrd runs, but also has more 10 yards or more runs. Id trade a few no gains for a first down run once in a while.

Willis has only started 8 games and has 41 less carries, yet has more td's.

Willis need the whole game as he gets stronger as the game wears on. You'll understand when he's ripping of 20 tard gains in the fourth quarter.

Against NE Willis had 10 less carries so how can you compare the numbers?

So what you are telling me is you would rather have Rudi Johnson over Willis McGahee? Tell that to anyone outside of the nasty and you'd get laughed out of town.

jamesbrooks21 · December 15, 2004

Rudi Johnson better than McGahee? Support that with facts please.
You had the same recievers last year didn't you? CJ and Housh for sure.
As far as turnovers both our teams have improved but we have a slightly better margin, although you have created one more.

Rudi vs Cleveland 26-202 7.8 avg

McGAYme vs Cleveland 27-105 3.9 avg

Baltimore

rudi 23-98

willie 16-58

rudi has long of 52 mcgahee long of 41

what does starting less games have to do with average where rudi has a 4.1 avg against a far superior schedule and mcgahee has a 3.8 against the nfc west

Ewwwww! I shutter in fear

WillisXPress · December 15, 2004

a far superior schedule

Are you kidding? Far superior? For the last time look at the scedules they practically mirror each other but instead of pitt we play NE twice.

You mock our NFC Schedule look at yours

DAL and WAS have worse record than SEA and STL. God you are thick.

Look at the schedules before you post this stuff man.

Whos left on you're tough schedule Philly? Yeah but you haven't played them yet.

Lets make it easy:

CIN

Opponent Time/Result

@N.Y. Jets Lost 24-31

Miami Won 16-13

Baltimore Lost 9-23

@Pittsburgh Lost 17-28

BYE

@Cleveland Lost 17-34

Denver Won 23-10

@Tennessee Lost 20-27

Dallas Won 26-3

@Washington Won 17-10

Pittsburgh Lost 14-19

Cleveland Won 58-48

@Baltimore Won 27-26

@New England Lost 28-35

Thats who you've played so far. How is that tougher than ours?

thethoughfulnuffalo · December 15, 2004

Rudi Johnson better than McGahee? Support that with facts please.
You had the same recievers last year didn't you? CJ and Housh for sure.
As far as turnovers both our teams have improved but we have a slightly better margin, although you have created one more.
Rudi vs Cleveland 26-202 7.8 avg
McGAYme vs Cleveland 27-105 3.9 avg

Baltimore
rudi 23-98
willie 16-58
rudi has long of 52 mcgahee long of 41
what does starting less games have to do with average where rudi has a 4.1 avg against a far superior schedule and mcgahee has a 3.8 against the nfc west
Ewwwww! I shutter in fear

Rudi Johnson 24 carries for 70 yards against Jets

Rudi Johnson 22 carries for 67 yards against Miami

Since you Brought up your mans big day against B-MORE.... last time you guys played I believe he ran for 56 yards on 19 carries

and since he had such a great day against CLeveland last time lets remind you of the 16 carries for 57 yards also on October 17th.

Please McGahee is recovering from a brutal comeback period and for you to sit here and glorify Rudi Johnson out rushing McGahee at 80 percent then I feel for you.

RJ has got his work cut out for him Sunday my man.

WillisXPress · December 15, 2004

Rudi will be lucky to see 50 yards on Sunday, hell Willis probably couldn't even crack 100 on our D

oldschooler · December 15, 2004

a far superior schedule
Are you kidding? Far superior? For the last time look at the scedules they practically mirror each other but instead of pitt we play NE twice.
You mock our NFC Schedule look at yours
DAL and WAS have worse record than SEA and STL. God you are thick.
Look at the schedules before you post this stuff man.
Whos left on you're tough schedule Philly? Yeah but you haven't played them yet.
Lets make it easy:
CIN
Opponent Time/Result
@N.Y. Jets Lost 24-31
Miami Won 16-13
Baltimore Lost 9-23
@Pittsburgh Lost 17-28
BYE
@Cleveland Lost 17-34
Denver Won 23-10
@Tennessee Lost 20-27
Dallas Won 26-3
@Washington Won 17-10
Pittsburgh Lost 14-19
Cleveland Won 58-48
@Baltimore Won 27-26
@New England Lost 28-35
Thats who you've played so far. How is that tougher than ours?

:rolleyes:

It was on nfl.com and all of the papers even that

the Bengals have 1 of the toughest schedules in the NFL.

You got to play the Dolphins twice.

You play the NFC West which IS the Weakest division in the NFL.

And the Bills played the Raiders.

09/12 10-13 L JAC 7-6

09/19 10-13 L at OAK 4-9

10/03 17-31 L NE 12-1

10/10 14-16 L at NYJ 9-4

10/17 20-13 W MIA 2-11

10/24 6-20 L at BAL 8-5

10/31 38-14 W ARI 4-9

11/07 22-17 W NYJ 9-4

11/14 6-29 L at NE 12-1

11/21 37-17 W STL 6-7

11/28 38-9 W at SEA 7-6

12/05 42-32 W at MIA 2-11

12/12 37-7 W CLE 3-10

Teams the Bills have played combined win/loss total...85/84

Teams the Bengals have played combined win loss total....90/79.

Hmmmmm looks tougher to me. :rolleyes:

bengalboomer7 · December 15, 2004

I honestly don't think these guys are fans at all. I've been reading the last few days withiut posting and despite a few respectable fans thes bills guys are just plain a**h***s(yeah, I said it, a**h***s) I like to talk a little smack every now and again, but thanks for giving me just another reason to not like New Yorkers. What are you guys, school kids with snow days? :lol:

jamesbrooks21 · December 15, 2004

What are you guys, school kids with snow days?

That's kinda what I was beginning to think. WIDE RIGHT!

WillisXPress · December 15, 2004

It was on nfl.com and all of the papers even that
the Bengals have 1 of the toughest schedules in the NFL.
You got to play the Dolphins twice.
You play the NFC West which IS the Weakest division in the NFL.
And the Bills played the Raiders.
09/12 10-13 L JAC 7-6
09/19 10-13 L at OAK 4-9
10/03 17-31 L NE 12-1
10/10 14-16 L at NYJ 9-4
10/17 20-13 W MIA 2-11
10/24 6-20 L at BAL 8-5
10/31 38-14 W ARI 4-9
11/07 22-17 W NYJ 9-4
11/14 6-29 L at NE 12-1
11/21 37-17 W STL 6-7
11/28 38-9 W at SEA 7-6
12/05 42-32 W at MIA 2-11
12/12 37-7 W CLE 3-10
Teams the Bills have played combined win/loss total...85/84
Teams the Bengals have played combined win loss total....90/79.
Hmmmmm looks tougher to me.

You got to play the Browns twice. W/L (We beat miami twice)

You got to play Tenn. L ( yeah we lost to the raiders)

NFC, you may think the NFC west is weakest but they STL and SEA have a more wins than the two NFC teams you've faced, and a better record than you. Weird.

I do agree that the NFC west is not a great division but how did we beat them?

38-14

37-17

38-9

We dominated them. You don't think we could beat the skins and the cowboys? HA.

So the teams you have played have 5 more wins, and thats only because you decided to give a W to the browns.

thethoughfulnuffalo · December 15, 2004

I honestly don't think these guys are fans at all. I've been reading the last few days withiut posting and despite a few respectable fans thes bills guys are just plain a**h***s(yeah, I said it, a**h***s) I like to talk a little smack every now and again, but thanks for giving me just another reason to not like New Yorkers. What are you guys, school kids with snow days?

Ok go out in the World and say because of a couple people that refute garbage trash agruments, that you hate a whole state of people thats real mature.

Why you sitting? You need to Stand up for the Bill!!!!!!!!1

LesterLyles · December 15, 2004

The defense has a whole new secondary, and they are creating turnovers.
The offense has twice the receivers they had last year, and two quarterbacks that get them the ball.
Rudi Johnson is running better than your great and mighty savior, McGayhe.
This is the second year under Marvin Lewis, and everyone now believes they can win any game. Last year, they tried to believe, but the "we are the bungles, it's ok to just come close" mentality was still lurking, and there was a cancer in the locker room named Leon.

Posts like this are just stupid. What, you think its the exact Bengals team you are playing as last October?

Bills fans are classless!

oldschooler · December 15, 2004

It was on nfl.com and all of the papers even that
the Bengals have 1 of the toughest schedules in the NFL.
You got to play the Dolphins twice.
You play the NFC West which IS the Weakest division in the NFL.
And the Bills played the Raiders.
09/12 10-13 L JAC 7-6
09/19 10-13 L at OAK 4-9
10/03 17-31 L NE 12-1
10/10 14-16 L at NYJ 9-4
10/17 20-13 W MIA 2-11
10/24 6-20 L at BAL 8-5
10/31 38-14 W ARI 4-9
11/07 22-17 W NYJ 9-4
11/14 6-29 L at NE 12-1
11/21 37-17 W STL 6-7
11/28 38-9 W at SEA 7-6
12/05 42-32 W at MIA 2-11
12/12 37-7 W CLE 3-10
Teams the Bills have played combined win/loss total...85/84
Teams the Bengals have played combined win loss total....90/79.
Hmmmmm looks tougher to me.
You got to play the Browns twice. W/L (We beat miami twice)
You got to play Tenn. L ( yeah we lost to the raiders)
NFC, you may think the NFC west is weakest but they STL and SEA have a more wins than the two NFC teams you've faced, and a better record than you. Weird.
I do agree that the NFC west is not a great division but how did we beat them?
38-14
37-17
38-9
We dominated them. You don't think we could beat the skins and the cowboys? HA.
So the teams you have played have 5 more wins, and thats only because you decided to give a W to the browns.

Yeah and you played the Cardinals and and decided to give

a win to the Raiders.

What`s your point ?

The Bengals still have to face 2 teams that have 17 wins and 9 losses.

The Bills have to play teams that have 14 wins and 12 losses.

The NFC East has a combined win/loss total of 26-26.

The NFC West has a combined win/loss total of 19-33.

Anyway you kept saying how is our schedule tougher.

I showed you and you still are going on with your stupid s**t. :rolleyes:

:lol:

bengalboomer7 · December 15, 2004

Combine you guys with those hated Yankees and it's easy to hate that state

detoxsmurf · December 15, 2004

TKO is the emotional leader of the Bills Defense and he is going to be jacked for this game. I think Sam Adams and Pat Williams will stop Rudy Johnson and force Palmer to air it out. Who knows if the Bengals can throw with veterans like Milloy and Vincent back in the lineup. We shall see.

WillisXPress · December 15, 2004

Yeah and you played the Cardinals and and decided to give
a win to the Raiders.
What`s your point ?
The Bengals still have to face 2 teams that have 17 wins and 9 losses.
The Bills have to play teams that have 14 wins and 12 losses.
The NFC East has a combined win/loss total of 26-26.
The NFC West has a combined win/loss total of 19-33.
Anyway you kept saying how is our schedule tougher.
I showed you and you still are going on with your stupid s**t.

You haven't even played the rest of the NFC east yet and the giants are hardly a good team. The only reason the NFC east has a better record is Philly and you haven't played them yet. And when you do they are going to crush you, so who really cares. Wow, you can get beaten by really good teams.
But fine I accept your arguement that you have a slightly tougher schedule, but you guys make it sound like you've played Philly, indy and the Pats every week.
I will concede that you played a tough schedule but that dosen't validate losing.
And we destroyed every team from the NFC west that dosen't scare you? To say you have a harder schedule would hold water if you beat them.

thethoughfulnuffalo · December 15, 2004

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TubThumper · December 15, 2004

I'll be glad when this game over and we can go back to forgetting that Buffalo exists.

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