Hobson on Dillon Trade

[Kirkendall]

Not Butch, but Ron of the Patriot Ledger. Again, from this perspective, we got screwed. Personally, I'm leaning that way lately...

http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2...ts/sports02.txt

[schweinhart]

Bengals had no choice but to get best offer for him. Madieu was worth it IMO.

It's still all about Leon -- he's shouldering the load to get his value up. I question whether he could really care less about winning. His team concept will shine through in due time.

Still, he's a great runner putting up top flights #'s this year. Great deal for Pats in short term at very least.

[turningpoint]

it won't look this way in 7 years when dillon is done with football and Madieu has gone to his 4th probowl.

[CTBengalsFan]

i sure am glad we got Madieu with that pick or I'd be very bitter about that trade.

[membengal]

Against all odds Dillon has shut up and is playing good football. Nothing about his ability to run surprises any of us who are Bengals fans...no question he was a talented son of a bitch when he was here.

But anyone writing about this now outside of Cincy cannot begin to comprehend how tired his act had gotten here. And I blame all of that on Corey. All of it. He was the one pulling against Marvin last year and it blew. So he had to go.

They turned his exit into Madieu Williams. That's one for ML and the scouts. Considering that in the past we have lost such disgruntled players for nothing, we did just fine on this.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

The article doesn't even DISCUSS Cincinnati's move with the pick, we made out great getting rid of an aging asshat and picking up a young superstar in the making.

[Tampa Bengal]

Asshat. Thats great I'm gonna have to use that term.

But your right I don't think people really know the real Dillon but give him time to show his true colors.

[The Brew Man]

Sure, Corey was an ass here and was fed up with losing. He made some very dumb decisions as a result. However, that doesnt change how good the man is, and with the NE supporting cast he is showing it. I too, am happy with Madieu however, I think its way too early to tell who got the better of this one.

[cincykent]

i sure am glad we got Madieu with that pick or I'd be very bitter about that trade.

In this day and age of free agency, it really doesn't matter. We lose some players and we pick up others. I have been very impressed with the defense the last few weeks. If they have another productive off-season they should be a playoff team next year.

[redsfan2]

When this deal went down, everybody thought we got a windfall with a second round pick. Remember that prior to that, we were looking at offers of a 3rd or 4th from the Broncos and the Raiders because they both thought we would cut Dillon and get nothing.

As to his talents ???? That's really beside the point because he was not going to play here. He proved that in his last games when he was healthy and still not doing squat. If he had stayed, the only thing he would have ran would have been his mouth. Better to move him and get the 2nd rounder that everybody was ecstatic about than to keep him and have a cancer in the locker room and a dead horse on the field.

He's having a good year ( so far ) for the Pats. He's also had an injury already that kept him out of a few games. If they use him right, he may even still be decent next year too ... but it's really all down hill from there.

Winner in this deal is both sides. Pats got the help they needed this year, and we got an extra pick that we needed ( and got a decent player with a lot of upside ) and as a bonus, we got rid of an Asshat ( ? ) ... which we didn't need.

Said it before, and I'll say it again ... dillon doesn't live here anymore and if he gets a thousand yards or a case of the clap it's all the same to me.

[bengalsfan33]

This is what Dillon wanted, so he got what he wanted. Even though we are weak at RB, atleast we don't have to worry about listening to him about not getting enough carries...

[cdnbengals_fan]

When I heard about this trade first happening, I thought..wow the Bengals just got screwed. Sure Cory wanted out (I didn't know the full story at the time or if he REALLY wanted out, but after reading about it, its obvious), but I thought they could get more for him...

But if you look now, Madieu Williams is a great player. I never would have thought Cincinnati would have got a player like that outta the results they first got from the Dillon trade. Now, the trade isnt as one sided at all as the article states, without even mention of what Cincy got/the Bengals side of it.

Dillion is a hell of a player, but the Bengals didnt get screwed like people thought they would have earlier, I think we got pretty good in return, but of course gave up a lot. Thats the way it works sometimes though, Dillon's gone but we got a young, great player as well instead.

[Barbarian]

The article doesn't even DISCUSS Cincinnati's move with the pick, we made out great getting rid of an aging asshat and picking up a young superstar in the making.

Why would the article talk about things from a Cincinnati viewpoint???????????? Hey moron, the paper is from BOSTON!!!!!!!!!

And another thing:

we made out great getting rid of an aging asshat and picking up a young superstar in the making.

Yep, keep on telling yourself that--while Williams is sitting on the couch in January watching Corey get his first ring--and go to the Pro Bowl.

Clearly a 2nd rounder for CD seemed good at the time, but IT OBVIOUSLY WASN'T ENOUGH FOR THAT KIND OF TALENT. Corey is making the Patties THAT MUCH BETTER. He was definitely worth a couple of 1st rounders.

You guys can shoot insults about the guy's attitude while in his last year at Cincy, however, he hasn't done s**t SINCE. He's kept his mouth shut and played good football this year.

Cincinnati had plenty of chances to keep this guy happy. So once again, THE BUNGLES BLEW IT.

[oldschooler]

The article doesn't even DISCUSS Cincinnati's move with the pick, we made out great getting rid of an aging asshat and picking up a young superstar in the making.

Why would the article talk about things from a Cincinnati viewpoint???????????? Hey moron, the paper is from BOSTON!!!!!!!!!

And another thing:

we made out great getting rid of an aging asshat and picking up a young superstar in the making.

Yep, keep on telling yourself that--while Williams is sitting on the couch in January watching Corey get his first ring--and go to the Pro Bowl.

Clearly a 2nd rounder for CD seemed good at the time, but IT OBVIOUSLY WASN'T ENOUGH FOR THAT KIND OF TALENT. Corey is making the Patties THAT MUCH BETTER. He was definitely worth a couple of 1st rounders.

You guys can shoot insults about the guy's attitude while in his last year at Cincy, however, he hasn't done s**t SINCE. He's kept his mouth shut and played good football this year.

Cincinnati had plenty of chances to keep this guy happy. So once again, THE BUNGLES BLEW IT.

You call some1 a moron then go on to say the

"Bungles blew it"

Man ....that seems like a moron calling a normal person

a moron to me.

Anyway Corey Dillon went to a team that won 15 straight

games and a Super Bowl WITHOUT HIM.

Of course they SHOULD go to the Playoffs again. (duh)

And two 1st rounders for him huh ? Did you just remove

your head from your butt to type this post or what ?

He was drafted in the 2nd round. He went on National TV

and tried to punk out a 1st year Head Coach and called a Pro Bowl

lineman (Willie Anderson) a "bum". The "experts" were saying that

the Bengals would be lucky to get a 4th round pick from the Raiders

for him...but instead we got a 2nd round pick(the same that was used

to draft him) and that 2nd round pick (Williams)has started EVERY GAME for them.

AND LEADS THE TEAM IN TACKLES !!!!!!

Yeah we got screwed.

What a moron.

[jditty47]

well u know barb will find something to bitch about next offseason. No matter how good we do in FA, do good in the draft (even if we fix up the DL), and even if its marvins 3rd year in his 3 yr plan. Barb always finds the negative in everything. He is the tail to every coin. He always shows the opposite side that everyone was thinking. Half the time i think he means it, but the other half i think he thinks it but doesnt want it to happen or be true. Just never know which half with him.

[oldschooler]

well u know barb will find something to bitch about next offseason.  No matter how good we do in FA, do good in the draft (even if we fix up the DL), and even if its marvins 3rd year in his 3 yr plan.  Barb always finds the negative in everything.  He is the tail to every coin.  He always shows the opposite side that everyone was thinking.  Half the time i think he means it, but the other half i think he thinks it but doesnt want it to happen or be true.  Just never know which half with him. 

So in other words he is this boards

"Loveable Loser" "Mr Negative" and "Resident Moron".

OK ....I gotcha....thanks for the heads up

on "Mr. Tails".

[Barbarian]

He was drafted in the 2nd round. He went on National TV

and tried to punk out a 1st year Head Coach and called a Pro Bowl

lineman (Willie Anderson) a "bum". The "experts" were saying that

the Bengals would be lucky to get a 4th round pick from the Raiders

for him...but instead we got a 2nd round pick(the same that was used

to draft him) and that 2nd round pick (Williams)has started EVERY GAME for them.

AND LEADS THE TEAM IN TACKLES !!!!!!

Yeah we got screwed.

What's your point??? Oh well, it's going to hurt you pretty bad, OldWooler when CD goes on to win a SB Ring this year, isn't it??? Sort of the same way it hurt Cleveland Terd Fans when Baltiwhore won theirs, right?

You took my quote totally out of context, idiot. CD is definitely worth more than a 2nd rounder. Simply said, YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT DILLONATOR HAPPY instead of trading him for a measely 2nd rounder.

BTW, if your safety is the leading tackler on your defense, you have definite problems in your front 7. Mainly, you're not stopping the run. That's what that stat means, dips**t.

[oldschooler]

He was drafted in the 2nd round. He went on National TV

and tried to punk out a 1st year Head Coach and called a Pro Bowl

lineman (Willie Anderson) a "bum". The "experts" were saying that

the Bengals would be lucky to get a 4th round pick from the Raiders

for him...but instead we got a 2nd round pick(the same that was used

to draft him) and that 2nd round pick (Williams)has started EVERY GAME for them.

AND LEADS THE TEAM IN TACKLES !!!!!!

Yeah we got screwed.

What's your point??? Oh well, it's going to hurt you pretty bad, OldWooler when CD goes on to win a SB Ring this year, isn't it??? Sort of the same way it hurt Cleveland Terd Fans when Baltiwhore won theirs, right?

You took my quote totally out of context, idiot. CD is definitely worth more than a 2nd rounder. Simply said, YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT DILLONATOR HAPPY instead of trading him for a measely 2nd rounder.

BTW, if your safety is the leading tackler on your defense, you have definite problems in your front 7. Mainly, you're not stopping the run. That's what that stat means, dips**t.

When people resort to name calling it means they lack substance

to their arguement.

But I can play along f**khead.

I find it ironic that you say Jerome Bettis is "on his last leg"

in another posts. But you praise Corey Dillon.

Ecspecially since Bettis is ONLY 2 YEARS OLDER than Dillon.

# 36 Jerome Bettis

Position: RB

Height: 5-11

Weight: 255

Born: 02/16/1972

College: Notre Dame

NFL Experience: 12

# 28 Corey Dillon

Position: RB

Height: 6-1

Weight: 225

Born: 10/24/1974

College: Washington

NFL Experience: 8

But yeah I agree that the Bengals should have gotten more than the

same round draft pick that they used to get him in 1997 !

Ecspecially seeing how he was on a team that was playing meaningful games

in December for the first time in his career and all he could do was bitch and

whine like a little girl that didn`t get her Barbie for Christmas.

Then he goes on to throw his equipment in the stands and not even say ANYTHING to the players that had played with, bleed for and fought for him to get the yards that he did. Then to top it off he goes on National TV and blast every1 in the franchise from the paperboy to the owner.

Yeah wow the Bengals were sure screwed to only get the same round pick

for a douchbag that they spent on him in the first place.

You`re a moron.

Sorry to any morons that were born that way.

It`s obvious that Gonad heres moronic attitude has evolved

over time.

[Barbarian]

I'm not going to quote any of that moronic s**t you just wrote. You contradicted yourself in the 1st 3 seconds of reading it.

Anyways, if you would have been paying attention last year, you would have known that Dillon was pissed off about losing his position to a lesser player.

ONE THING FOR SURE, dude--MARVIN MADE A SERIOUS COACHING MISTAKE WHEN HE DID THAT. COREY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT BACK INTO THE LINEUP RIGHT AFTER HE WAS CLEARED BY TEAM "DOCTORS". But no, Lewis wanted to f**k with his lineup a little by going with Rudi. Especially after Rudi had 3 consecutive 150+ yard games.

Needless to say, that pissed Corey Dillon off. I would have been pissed off too.

YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR JOB TO AN INJURY, BRA.

Then you go onto this argument:

Ecspecially since Bettis is ONLY 2 YEARS OLDER than Dillon.

That's correct, however Bettis has 1191 more carries than Dillon!!!!!! And given the kind of Offensive Ball the Squeelers play, Bettis has seen wayyyyyy more action than Dillon. Bettis has taken a beating. Bill Cowher knows this--that's why he was trying to transition in Duce Staley into the starting role and making Bettis the backup/short yardage back.

See Old Wooler, you should probably look a little more into the stats you post, bra. They support my arguments.

[oldschooler]

I'm not going to quote any of that moronic s**t you just wrote.  You contradicted yourself in the 1st 3 seconds of reading it.

Anyways, if you would have been paying attention last year, you would have known that Dillon was pissed off about losing his position to a lesser player.

ONE THING FOR SURE, dude--MARVIN MADE A SERIOUS COACHING MISTAKE WHEN HE DID THAT.  COREY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT BACK INTO THE LINEUP RIGHT AFTER HE WAS CLEARED BY TEAM "DOCTORS".  But no, Lewis wanted to f**k with his lineup a little by going with Rudi.  Especially after Rudi had 3 consecutive 150+ yard games.

Needless to say, that pissed Corey Dillon off.  I would have been pissed off too.

YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR JOB TO AN INJURY, BRA.

Then you go onto this argument:

Ecspecially since Bettis is ONLY 2 YEARS OLDER than Dillon.

That's correct, however Bettis has 1191 more carries than Dillon!!!!!! And given the kind of Offensive Ball the Squeelers play, Bettis has seen wayyyyyy more action than Dillon. Bettis has taken a beating. Bill Cowher knows this--that's why he was trying to transition in Duce Staley into the starting role and making Bettis the backup/short yardage back.

See Old Wooler, you should probably look a little more into the stats you post, bra. They support my arguments.

Pay attention ?

Yeah I did. I paid attention that this is a TEAM GAME.

And Dillon has done NOTHING for this city or this TEAM

but bitch and moan. (No wonder he`s your hero...you both

are worthless )

He got records and went to Pro Bowls. But HE is the only

person to benefit. The only time the National media paid

attention to the Bengals were to listen to him gloat over

personal accomplishments or to bitch and moan. While the Bengals LOST.

He is a loser with a losing history and I wish you

would go be a Gaytriots fan where "your boy" plays now.

I guess it`s hard to recognize that this team has a bright future with

your head shoved up your ass like that.

[Barbarian]

Pay attention ?

Yeah I did. I paid attention that this is a TEAM GAME.

And Dillon has done NOTHING for this city or this TEAM

but bitch and moan. (No wonder he`s your hero...you both

are worthless  )

LMAO @ Old Wooler. He's just pissed that the Bungles' Career Leading Rusher is named Dillon.

Give it a rest, man. All Dillon wanted to do is WIN. Now, he's got his mouth shut and winning football games, now isn't he???

What did Dillon do for the Bungles and Cincinnati??? Man, how fast you forget, bra. Stop watching MTV with your 30-second attention span.

Dillon ran HARD for Cincy in his 6 years--or did you forget every year that he was here, that he had 1,000 yards. And behind THAT Offensive Line?????

Yeah, that truly IS great stuff.

[oldschooler]

Pay attention ?

Yeah I did. I paid attention that this is a TEAM GAME.

And Dillon has done NOTHING for this city or this TEAM

but bitch and moan. (No wonder he`s your hero...you both

are worthless  )

LMAO @ Old Wooler. He's just pissed that the Bungles' Career Leading Rusher is named Dillon.

Give it a rest, man. All Dillon wanted to do is WIN. Now, he's got his mouth shut and winning football games, now isn't he???

What did Dillon do for the Bungles and Cincinnati??? Man, how fast you forget, bra. Stop watching MTV with your 30-second attention span.

Dillon ran HARD for Cincy in his 6 years--or did you forget every year that he was here, that he had 1,000 yards. And behind THAT Offensive Line?????

Yeah, that truly IS great stuff.

You`re a clueless moron.

Dillon HAD to shut his mouth and play ball or his career was OVER !

Get it ? Of course you don`t Gonad.

He wanted to win huh ?

Oh so I guess being 8-6 and leading the division in December

isn`t counted as winning ?

I guess it was only counted as winning if HE was getting the ball ?

THAT Offensive line is the SAME Offensive line that Rudi ran for

150 yards in 3 games. SOMETHING Dillon NEVER DID while he was

a Bengal.

[Barbarian]

Pay attention ?

Yeah I did. I paid attention that this is a TEAM GAME.

And Dillon has done NOTHING for this city or this TEAM

but bitch and moan. (No wonder he`s your hero...you both

are worthless  )

LMAO @ Old Wooler. He's just pissed that the Bungles' Career Leading Rusher is named Dillon.

Give it a rest, man. All Dillon wanted to do is WIN. Now, he's got his mouth shut and winning football games, now isn't he???

What did Dillon do for the Bungles and Cincinnati??? Man, how fast you forget, bra. Stop watching MTV with your 30-second attention span.

Dillon ran HARD for Cincy in his 6 years--or did you forget every year that he was here, that he had 1,000 yards. And behind THAT Offensive Line?????

Yeah, that truly IS great stuff.

You`re a clueless moron.

Dillon HAD to shut his mouth and play ball or his career was OVER !

Get it ? Of course you don`t Gonad.

He wanted to win huh ?

Oh so I guess being 8-5 and leading the division in December

isn`t counted as winning ?

I guess it was only counted as winning if HE was getting the ball ?

THAT Offensive line is the SAME Offensive line that Rudi ran for

150 yards in 3 games. SOMETHING Dillon NEVER DID while he was

a Bengal.

Those 150 yarders were against KC, Arizona, and Houston. Those numbers are way inflated. Let Dillon go up against those same defenses and see what happens, without the groin injury. It may have been 200+ for Dillon, bra.

Quit homering out and see things objectively, dude. Dillon is wayyyy more of a runner than Rudi Johnson ever hopes to be. The fact is--is that Rudi couldn't pick up Dillon's jock with both hands talent-wise.

OR DOES THE 278 AGAINST DENVER ESCAPE YOU???

[oldschooler]

Pay attention ?

Yeah I did. I paid attention that this is a TEAM GAME.

And Dillon has done NOTHING for this city or this TEAM

but bitch and moan. (No wonder he`s your hero...you both

are worthless  )

LMAO @ Old Wooler. He's just pissed that the Bungles' Career Leading Rusher is named Dillon.

Give it a rest, man. All Dillon wanted to do is WIN. Now, he's got his mouth shut and winning football games, now isn't he???

What did Dillon do for the Bungles and Cincinnati??? Man, how fast you forget, bra. Stop watching MTV with your 30-second attention span.

Dillon ran HARD for Cincy in his 6 years--or did you forget every year that he was here, that he had 1,000 yards. And behind THAT Offensive Line?????

Yeah, that truly IS great stuff.

You`re a clueless moron.

Dillon HAD to shut his mouth and play ball or his career was OVER !

Get it ? Of course you don`t Gonad.

He wanted to win huh ?

Oh so I guess being 8-5 and leading the division in December

isn`t counted as winning ?

I guess it was only counted as winning if HE was getting the ball ?

THAT Offensive line is the SAME Offensive line that Rudi ran for

150 yards in 3 games. SOMETHING Dillon NEVER DID while he was

a Bengal.

Those 150 yarders were against KC, Arizona, and Houston. Those numbers are way inflated. Let Dillon go up against those same defenses and see what happens, without the groin injury. It may have been 200+ for Dillon, bra.

Quit homering out and see things objectively, dude. Dillon is wayyyy more of a runner than Rudi Johnson ever hopes to be. The fact is--is that Rudi couldn't pick up Dillon's jock with both hands talent-wise.

OR DOES THE 278 AGAINST DENVER ESCAPE YOU???

Dillon had 98 YARDS against the Cheifs this past Monday

Night you dumbass.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/live/NFL_20041122_NE@KC

Try again.

Oh and I never said that Dillon wasn`t good/great.

I said that we came out just as good as New England

all things considered. Now remove your head from his

ass or yours ...which ever you have it shoved up at the

moment and realize FACTS.

[Barbarian]

Dillon had 98 YARDS against the Cheifs this past Monday

Night you dumbass.

Different year--different defense.

And didn't Dillon have 2 TDs against that defense????? I'd say that's one hellova game minus his one mistake.

Now, if you'd please pull your head from your smelly cavity with a pop.