Injury Update

[HoosierCat]

from da site...

INJURY UPDATE: Rookie RB Chris Perry (abdominal strain) is expected to be upgraded to probable some time this week. But as the Bengals reported back to work Wednesday, RT Willie Anderson’s 72-start streak remained questionable with a sore knee even though he played all but the last few snaps of Sunday’s win over Dallas.

Also questionable are MLB Caleb Miller (ankle), DL Carl Powell (knee), and CB Rashad Bauman (Achilles). Probable are DE Justin Smith, OL Scott Kooistra, DT Terrance Martin (hand), FB Jeremi Johnson (hamstring), S Kim Herring (knee), and LE Duane Clemons (shoulder).

If Big Willie can't go, Big Project Stacy Andrews, he of the 70 whole college snaps, is listed No. 2 on the depth chart. Hope he's ready...

[skyline]

He's ahead of Kooistra?

[Kirkendall]

Do you mean to tell me that Chris Perry just might add to his two career total carries? I love Willie, he's my top three favorite Bengal playing right now; but I am VERY curious to see how big Stacy will look.

[HoosierCat]

He's ahead of Kooistra?

According to the depth chart. See for yourself:

http://www.bengals.com/team/depthchart.asp

Kooistra isn't even listed as third team, like Moore is listed as both 2nd team LG and 3rd team C. Scott's just listed as Bobbie Williams' backup.

Hopefully, it's a mark of how much progress Stacy's made, and not just a goof by Hobson!

[kevnz]

I wouldn't take a lot of stock in that list. I mean the roster they list still has people on that have been cut. Kooistra is going for Willie not Stacey. And honestly with as bad as our line has played there is no way that they would put him in there at Tackle (I expect him to play guard some before he plays tackle)

Andrews is a long term project, and unless he has made huge strides during the season I don't see him play tackle just yet.

[HoosierCat]

I wouldn't take a lot of stock in that list. I mean the roster they list still has people on that have been cut. Kooistra is going for Willie not Stacey. And honestly with as bad as our line has played there is no way that they would put him in there at Tackle (I expect him to play guard some before he plays tackle)

Andrews is a long term project, and unless he has made huge strides during the season I don't see him play tackle just yet.

I agree, it would surprise me if Andrews got the start over Kooistra, especially since Koo was the guy they turned to last week to cover for Willie at the tail end of the game. But that said, just for kicks I pulled down the weekly press release for the Skins game off bengals.com, and the depth chart on the back page also lists Stacey as No. 2. And in any event, if Willie can't go because of his knee and Koo starts, Andrews will almost certainly see some snaps in relief.

Putting him at guard first would make sense but I remember way back in camp there was a story on bengals.com that brought up that option, and it said they weren't teaching him the guard position because he had so much to learn at tackle that they wanted him to get one position down before learing another. And we haven't had any real updates on him, at least that I saw, so I have absolutely no idea where along the learning curve -- at either position -- he stands.

[jditty47]

he wont.

[Kirkendall]

Well if Andrews is a "long-term" project, why not use him as we did with Palmer? I know the differences of the players and situations so no one has to give me the "money" excuse or anything else we've talked about for the past 9 months. I know Palmer has tons of phyisical abilities, but isn't that why we drafted Andrews in the first place?

Just food for thought.

Also, Andrews is too big and inexperienced to play guard -- if that's what you guys were talking about before. The difference in positions is too different to cross-play the positions. Some can do it, most can not.

[JPW]

It now looks like Big Willie will be able to play after all !

News and notes

11-11-04, 5:15 p.m.

Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis indicated after Thursday’s practice that right tackle Willie Anderson is going to start Sunday in Washington even though he has missed the last two days.

“He’s fine. He’s better this week than he was last week,” Lewis said. “The thing with Willie is that he’s proven he can work through it and wants to work through it.”

Lewis said Anderson seems more at ease since meeting with doctors last week about his torn knee cartilage ...

[HoosierCat]

That's good news!

[Bobcat Bengal]

Also, Andrews is too big and inexperienced to play guard -- if that's what you guys were talking about before. The difference in positions is too different to cross-play the positions. Some can do it, most can not.

Ok, Ill play the role for a minute.

Watching football, I don't see how the O-Line position can be THAT tough to learn or pick up. I mean, what the f**k are they doing other than preventing their guys from getting to the QB? It can't be that hard man. Maybe I don't respect the position enough, I just don't see how difficult it can be. I mean, yeah, pulling and double teaming and all that, but when I watch a O lineman I just see them slap boxing and shuffling their feet around until the play is over. The only real difference I could discern from other Olinemen is their strength, quickness, and lateral agility, and that isn't necessarily something that takes a LOT to learn i.e. natural physical ability.

I guess I should point out that I have never played organized football either, so....feel free to gun me down, I'm a willing target.

So someone break it down as to why it's SOOOO tough to learn the nuances and intricacies of these positions, and I'll STFU.

[The_Next_Big_Thing]

Also, Andrews is too big and inexperienced to play guard -- if that's what you guys were talking about before.  The difference in positions is too different to cross-play the positions.  Some can do it, most can not.

Ok, Ill play the role for a minute.

Watching football, I don't see how the O-Line position can be THAT tough to learn or pick up. I mean, what the f**k are they doing other than preventing their guys from getting to the QB? It can't be that hard man. Maybe I don't respect the position enough, I just don't see how difficult it can be. I mean, yeah, pulling and double teaming and all that, but when I watch a O lineman I just see them slap boxing and shuffling their feet around until the play is over. The only real difference I could discern from other Olinemen is their strength, quickness, and lateral agility, and that isn't necessarily something that takes a LOT to learn i.e. natural physical ability.

So someone break it down as to why it's SOOOO tough to learn the nuances and intricacies of these positions, and I'll STFU.

Wow, you know, I agree. I guess the same could be said for the Quarterback too. I mean all he has to do is hand the ball to the running back or throw it to the wide receiver. I mean that doesn't take taht much learning does it?

Or defensive linemen. I mean all they have to do is chase the guy with the ball. Or linebackers, or corners, hell there isn't a position in football that is difficult..... FROM A LAYMANS VIEW.

[Bobcat Bengal]

Also, Andrews is too big and inexperienced to play guard -- if that's what you guys were talking about before.  The difference in positions is too different to cross-play the positions.  Some can do it, most can not.

Ok, Ill play the role for a minute.

Watching football, I don't see how the O-Line position can be THAT tough to learn or pick up. I mean, what the f**k are they doing other than preventing their guys from getting to the QB? It can't be that hard man. Maybe I don't respect the position enough, I just don't see how difficult it can be. I mean, yeah, pulling and double teaming and all that, but when I watch a O lineman I just see them slap boxing and shuffling their feet around until the play is over. The only real difference I could discern from other Olinemen is their strength, quickness, and lateral agility, and that isn't necessarily something that takes a LOT to learn i.e. natural physical ability.

So someone break it down as to why it's SOOOO tough to learn the nuances and intricacies of these positions, and I'll STFU.

Wow, you know, I agree. I guess the same could be said for the Quarterback too. I mean all he has to do is hand the ball to the running back or throw it to the wide receiver. I mean that doesn't take taht much learning does it?

Or defensive linemen. I mean all they have to do is chase the guy with the ball. Or linebackers, or corners, hell there isn't a position in football that is difficult..... FROM A LAYMANS VIEW.

Dripping with sarcasm huh?

Actually, QB looks like its tough to play. I can't throw a decent spiral standing in one spot, much less on the run. Plus remembering where all your recievers are gonna be with 300 pound guys barreling down on you, making the throw somewhat accurate so that none of the other 11 guys have a shot at catching it, and all within 3 or 4 seconds seems REALLY difficult.

As for WR, catching bullets and bombs is no small task either. Try taking off as fast as you can with a equally as fast CB putting his hands all over you. And lets not even talk about going up the middle or catching a pass inbounds with two feet in. Incredible amounts of agility and speed and pass catching ability.

Likewise for CB's.

LB's have the task of covering RB's and WR's and spying on QB's. They are the ones all over the field and have the task of tackling anything that gets in their way.

HMMMM......What is it that a OLineman does again?

Sorry, you failed miserably. I did a better job at poking fun at myself than you did.

Nice try though.

[bengalboomer7]

I played tackle for three years and it's a very hard position, There is usually a blocking scheme for each play and most of the time you don't get to take on just one guy. Also factor in that a huge mean guy is doing everything he can to get past you and you are usually the one on the botttom of a dog-pile. NOT FUN!!