Bengals/Ravens tidbits

[The Brew Man]

* The Bengals are 6-1 at home in the last seven games

* The Bengals are 1-5 at home vs. Divisional opponents in the last two years

* The Bengals only won two games during the 2002 season. Since then they are 9-9.

* The Bengals are 2-4 against the Ravens in the last three seasons

* WR Peter Warrick is leading the way with 16 targets in the first two weeks. WR Chad Johnson is 2nd with 14 targets

* Chad Johnson has only caught 8 passes in the first two games.

* QB Carson Palmer is off to a decent start. He is averaging 197.5 passing yards per game and has a pair of touchdown passes

* RB Rudi Johnson has gained 137 rushing yards but is averaging only 3 yards a carry

* In his five games against the Ravens, Chad Johnson has

o Caught 21 receptions for 361 yards

o Scored 3 touchdowns

o Two 100-yard receiving games

* RB Rudi Johnson has 11 career carries for 25 yards against the Ravens

* In eight games against the Ravens, Peter Warrick has

o Caught 32 receptions for 275 yards

o Scored 4 touchdowns

o Had one 11-reception game but no 100-yard receiving games

* The Ravens have now lost five of the past six road games

* The Ravens lost to Cincinnati on the road last season

* The Ravens are 3-4 on the road vs. divisional opponents in the last seven games

* The Ravens gave up 47 points to the Bengals last season (scored 57)

* The Ravens leading receiver other than TE Todd Heap is WR Kevin Johnson with 7 receptions for 75 yards

* Progress? QB Kyle Boller has averaged 144.5 passing yards per game and hasn't thrown a touchdown pass

* Slow start: RB Jamal Lewis has rushed for only 119 yards on 44 carries. At this pace he will need 741 carries to reach the 2,000 yard mark

* In six career games against the Bengals, Lewis has rushed for 762 yards and scored six touchdowns

[williamnminor]

All we have to do is look at the second time we played them there. Trust me, the ball is not going to be bouncing of Ed Reeds chest this time for 80plus yard TDs. They will be all over Chad and we will be lucky to gain 50 yards on the ground the way we have been running this year. I am having nightmares thinking about what J Lewis will do to our D. They might not even have to throw once, but hey, I guess anything can happen. Pessimistic WHO DEY

[Barbarian]

All we have to do is look at the second time we played them there. Trust me, the ball is not going to be bouncing of Ed Reeds chest this time for 80plus yard TDs. They will be all over Chad and we will be lucky to gain 50 yards on the ground the way we have been running this year. I am having nightmares thinking about what J Lewis will do to our D. They might not even have to throw once, but hey, I guess anything can happen. Pessimistic WHO DEY

William??? Are you okay??? That was my prediction. Sounds like Mean Joe Greene needs to come by and give you a coke and a smile?!?!?!?!?

[Jam31]

They might not even have to throw once

Gotta love Jamal-Ball.

Im not saying he's gonna break 200 Sunday but the man is due for a breakout.

[BengalszoneBilly]

Im not saying he's gonna break 200 Sunday but the man is due for a breakout.

I anticipate Jamal to have a respectable game of about 100 yards rushing, give or take 10 to 20 yards either way, but honestly if anyone on the Ravens is overdue to break out, it would have to be Kyle Boller IMHO! No one really takes that much notice if Jamal gets over 200 yds rushing because it isn't too uncommon, almost expected of him at times.

So why don't you say Boller is due? Does anyone here even remember the last game Kyle played well enough that you could consider it a "breakout" game? Let me refresh the collective memories here seeing that it's last occurrence was a little more than one year ago:

"Kyle Boller had his breakout game in Cincinnati on 10/19/03 as he completed 15 of 27 for a career-high 302 yards and 2 TDs (104.2 QB rating), including a career-long 73-yard TD strike to WR Travis Taylor in the fourth quarter…This game marked Boller’s 1st-career 300-yard passing game, becoming only the 4th QB in Ravens history to throw for 300 yards in a game…Boller’s 2 TDs against the Bengals also marked the 1st multi-TD game of his career…He did fumble twice and throw a INT that led to 17 Bengals points."

How was Jamal's performance in the same game as Boller's above? Those very stats are behind my yardage prediction for Lewis:

"Jamal Lewis rushed 19 times for 101 yards and no TD's in Cincinnati on 10/19/03…Lewis averaged 5.3 yards per carry with a long of 35 and added 1 reception for 8 yards against the Bengals."

It seems to me that Boller was the difference for the Ravens winning in that game rather than Lewis, even after you factor in Boller's turnovers! So while granted the thigh injury to Boller's thigh last season was a factor in no other games of this magnitude, Kyle is still way overdue for another performance even close to that! See my point?

[Jam31]

Im not saying he's gonna break 200 Sunday but the man is due for a breakout.

I anticipate Jamal to have a respectable game of about 100 yards rushing, give or take 10 to 20 yards either way, but honestly if anyone on the Ravens is overdue to break out, it would have to be Kyle Boller IMHO! No one really takes that much notice if Jamal gets over 200 yds rushing because it isn't too uncommon, almost expected of him at times.

So why don't you say Boller is due? Does anyone here even remember the last game Kyle played well enough that you could consider it a "breakout" game? Let me refresh the collective memories here seeing that it's last occurrence was a little more than one year ago:

"Kyle Boller had his breakout game in Cincinnati on 10/19/03 as he completed 15 of 27 for a career-high 302 yards and 2 TDs (104.2 QB rating), including a career-long 73-yard TD strike to WR Travis Taylor in the fourth quarter…This game marked Boller’s 1st-career 300-yard passing game, becoming only the 4th QB in Ravens history to throw for 300 yards in a game…Boller’s 2 TDs against the Bengals also marked the 1st multi-TD game of his career…He did fumble twice and throw a INT that led to 17 Bengals points."

How was Jamal's performance in the same game as Boller's above? Those very stats are behind my yardage prediction for Lewis:

"Jamal Lewis rushed 19 times for 101 yards and no TD's in Cincinnati on 10/19/03…Lewis averaged 5.3 yards per carry with a long of 35 and added 1 reception for 8 yards against the Bengals."

It seems to me that Boller was the difference for the Ravens winning in that game rather than Lewis, even after you factor in Boller's turnovers! So while granted the thigh injury to Boller's thigh last season was a factor in no other games of this magnitude, Kyle is still way overdue for another performance even close to that! See my point?

I see what you're getting at Billy but keep in my mind you are talking to a Ravens fan

We don't expect breakout games for Boller especially with the conditions for this game. Obviously I hope Im wrong but with Taylor and Heap out....well any plays made downfield would be a huge plus but are certainly NOT expected.

And please don't take this is as a lack of confidence in Boller. I like the kid a lot but when you have questionable pass protection and basically a scrub receiving corp...well lets just say I wouldn't put my hopes on the passing games shoulders.

We hang our hats on Jamal and the running game etc so passing yards are unfortuntaley the last thing we Ravens fans look for.

Its so funny how opposite our two teams are. You guys have a defensive coordinator guru with an explosive offense and a suspect defense.

We have an offensive guru with an explosive defense and a suspect passing game.

We're living in two different worlds bro!

[jditty47]

its kinda sad/funny in that regard. all season/offseason long both teams fans pray that they improve on that side of the ball...everytime our defense lines up we say a little prayer and hope its the D that showed vs Miami and not the Jets and you hope that your offense is the offense that played vs the browns last year and not the browns this year.