The Brew Man Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Ive been hearing some buzz about this guy from a friend whos been down at Georgetown. He says Miller has a Jack Lambert tenacity about the way he plays. Also noticed that Marvin mentioned him as standing out in his first journal entry. Now I see this from Hobson....With former Bengals linebacker Adrian Ross opting to go to the Steelers, look for the Bengals to start maybe scanning the waiver wire once the pre-season games get going. Rookie middle linebacker Caleb Miller may be moving around sooner rather than later as the successor to Ross who can backup all three spots.“We’ve got other guys who can do that, but he’s the first guy,” said linebackers coach Ricky Hunley.Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGrizzlyBaer Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 he seems like he will be able to take over for hardy at some point soon. personally i think williams is the beast from this draft. i think he could turn into a fulcer like saftey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengalsfan33 Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 It is sounding like this kid is going to be good.Were going to really need him on defense this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishcovga Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Madieu may be the talk of the camps so far, but Ratliff is the one to keep the eye on. - He's scat quick with really good hands. The new rules in place make him a lock for a starters' spot in the near future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Man Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Madieu may be the talk of the camps so far, but Ratliff is the one to keep the eye on. - He's scat quick with really good hands. The new rules in place make him a lock for a starters' spot in the near future! While I agree with your assesment of Madieu and Ratliff, they are high selections. Miller is somewhat of an unknown, so it would be a bigger surprise if he stepped up and produced this year wouldnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbarian Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Ive been hearing some buzz about this guy from a friend whos been down at Georgetown. He says Miller has a Jack Lambert tenacity about the way he plays. Also noticed that Marvin mentioned him as standing out in his first journal entry. Now I see this from Hobson....With former Bengals linebacker Adrian Ross opting to go to the Steelers, look for the Bengals to start maybe scanning the waiver wire once the pre-season games get going. Rookie middle linebacker Caleb Miller may be moving around sooner rather than later as the successor to Ross who can backup all three spots.“We’ve got other guys who can do that, but he’s the first guy,” said linebackers coach Ricky Hunley.Opinions? Here we go again with the comparisons of HOF LB'ers with "Could be" players again.Man, WTF???First Nate Webster is Da Killa--now Celeb Miller is Jack Lambert???This is getting hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Man Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Ive been hearing some buzz about this guy from a friend whos been down at Georgetown. He says Miller has a Jack Lambert tenacity about the way he plays. Also noticed that Marvin mentioned him as standing out in his first journal entry. Now I see this from Hobson....With former Bengals linebacker Adrian Ross opting to go to the Steelers, look for the Bengals to start maybe scanning the waiver wire once the pre-season games get going. Rookie middle linebacker Caleb Miller may be moving around sooner rather than later as the successor to Ross who can backup all three spots.“We’ve got other guys who can do that, but he’s the first guy,” said linebackers coach Ricky Hunley.Opinions? Here we go again with the comparisons of HOF LB'ers with "Could be" players again.Man, WTF???First Nate Webster is Da Killa--now Celeb Miller is Jack Lambert???This is getting hilarious. Hes certainly not Lambert, but if he posseses some of the same tenacity Lambert had, dont you think thats worth mentioning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalszoneBilly Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 IMO nobody is NUTHIN' until the Bengals defense starts shutting other offenses down...ESPECIALLY on the run! Until then they are what they ended last season as, 28th against stopping the run!***I actually expect them to be better than that this year only due to Marvin Lewis's past coaching history. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted August 10, 2004 Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 First Nate Webster is Da Killa--now Celeb Miller is Jack Lambert??? I'll believe Miller is as tenacious as Lambert when their dental work is the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Man Posted August 10, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2004 Today on Bengals.comMiller emerges as special8-10-04, 7:15 a.m.BY GEOFF HOBSONCaleb MillerGEORGETOWN, Ky. - In less than four months, Caleb Miller has gone from third-round pick, to skinny, promising rookie, to one of the most indispensable Bengals. If baseball has its five-tool player, then Miller is a seven-wonder in football by playing all three linebacker spots and on all four special teams.He has yet to move out of the middle to play strong or weak side, but he will soon enough because as linebacker coach Ricky Hunley says, “he’s not the only one who can play all three, but he’s the first.” He is already written in stone as one of special teams coach Darrin Simmons’ young bucks, “who have to grow up fast.”Miller should have no problem doing that. This is a guy who spent Draft Weekend working with kids in the middle of nowhere on a Christian retreat with Arkansas Athletes Outreach.This is a guy walking around training camp with a bit of a bemused look on his face because, “Everything is moving so fast that there’s almost no time to do anything else but learn football, which isn’t cool because the No. 1 thing in my life is obviously God. But I’m supposed to be playing football, too.”But this is a guy who loves football so much that his favorite special teams is kickoffs because “It’s the most fun. Just a free play. It’s so central to football. The ball flies, follow the ball, go tackle the guy with the ball.”Miller has become central to Simmons’ plans. He’s not as fast as fellow third-rounder Landon Johnson, the fastest linebacker in the draft, but at 6-3, 222 pounds, he’s close enough that he’s set to cover punts and kicks and big enough to block on them.“We told him that from Day One. On this team, if you’re a backup linebacker, you have to do that,” Simmons said. “He’s got good speed, pretty good lateral movement, and good instincts. He’s a four-phase guy. Things have been happening real fast for him and things are going to start happening faster once the games start (Saturday in Tampa Bay.)”But Miller is looking more and more like a savvy veteran for Simmons. Although Miller hasn’t been “a core,” special teamer _ as Simmons likes to call his key guys – since his early days at Arkansas, at least he’s done it. One of the casualties of head coach Marvin Lewis’ youth movement in the backup positions has been experience on special teams.“We’re inexperienced. Real inexperienced. Much more than last year,” Simmons said. “We’re more athletic, but much less experienced. Guys are going to have to grow up fast. . .I thought that was the one thing that caught us by surprise a little bit last year against the Jets (in the pre-season opener) was the speed of the game.”Miller, a better than average student at Arkansas, looks at it all with his math mind. (“I definitely have a math mind. I hate writing English papers.”) He likes the simple math so he’s able to figure out problems in his head “and you don’t have to use a calculator.” He has the speed of special teams figured out.“Going from high school to the SEC and playing special teams, that was a big difference,” Miller said. “It will probably be pretty similar. You can only go as fast as full speed, so if you’re going full speed, then everything should fall into place.”Things haven’t exactly fallen into place at linebacker. Johnson, backing up Brian Simmons at weak side, is improving after injuring a shoulder that has started to pop in and out of the socket, but he has missed time and may miss Saturday. Khalid Abdullah, the other weak-side backer who played every special teams last year and finished third in tackles, is probably out for the year with a dislocated ankle.The Bengals tried to re-sign Adrian Ross following Abdullah’s injury, but the one guy on their roster last year who has played all three spots signed with Pittsburgh. Now Miller is the versatile one, but for now he’s behind Nate Webster in the middle.“When we’re in the meetings, all of them are seeing and learning what all the positions do,” Hunley said. “If anyone can play all three, it’s him. He’s certainly smart enough.”Miller played all the spots at Arkansas, but he figures the one he’ll learn next is strong and he understands why the Bengals are taking it slow with him.“It’s easier to learn the defense from one position so that you can pick up the rest in relationship to what you already know,” Miller said. “I don’t think it’s going to be much of a problem.”Miller and safety-cornerback Madieu Williams have had the biggest impact as rookies on defense and the one thing they share is brains. Camp insiders are impressed how both play beyond their years.“The thing I like about him is how he takes care of his body,” Hunley said. “He knows what he’s putting in there. I don’t have to tell him anything like that. With a lean guy like that, I just tell him to make sure to drink plenty of fluids.”One of the more pleasant surprises of camp may be how Miller has continued to hold weight. He’s sticking at 222, which is what he arrived at 11 days ago.“It’s easy,” he said. “I’m hungry all the time. I don’t know what, but I’ll eat pretty much what they’re serving and I’ll eat a lot of it. When you’re playing this much football, it’s easy for me to keep the weight on because I’m always hungry. I’ve been doing a lot of running.”Between defense and special teams, Miller has plenty of more calories to burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schweinhart Posted August 11, 2004 Report Share Posted August 11, 2004 Miller sounds like he could be the most valuable draft pick on the team for this season.A little bit of Jack Lambert, little bit of Clay Matthews, or some Jim LeClair. It's all good w/ me as long as he plays to the best of his abilities, which it sounds like he's doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Man Posted August 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 bump this topic, Miller has been impressive for both of the first two preseason games..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyline Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 bump this topic, Miller has been impressive for both of the first two preseason games..... As if on cue, he ends tonight's game with an interception... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPW Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 bump this topic, Miller has been impressive for both of the first two preseason games..... He certainly has been, in fact he was the one thing that stuck out in my mind from the first game.And he was impressive again tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirkendall Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 He finally grabbed one of his dropped INTs.. but he fumbled his INT for about 2 long seconds before he pulled it down and took off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerawkid Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 Here we go again with the comparisons of HOF LB'ers with "Could be" players again.Man, WTF???First Nate Webster is Da Killa--now Celeb Miller is Jack Lambert???This is getting hilarious.Barb, you're ignorant. The statement wasn't a comparison directly to Lambert. Someone merely stated that an opinion from camp is that Caleb has "a Jack Lambert tenacity about the way he plays."Get over yourself. When you wanna rip someone or come down on then, at least make sure you make sense.WHO DEY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brew Man Posted August 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 bump this topic, Miller has been impressive for both of the first two preseason games.....As if on cue, he ends tonight's game with an interception... Gotta love it, makes more and more sense why Ross was cut now too. I see him moving up the depth chart little by little.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincybengals Posted August 22, 2004 Report Share Posted August 22, 2004 One of the announcers in Boston compared Nate Webster to Mike Singletary.... The fire in the eyes, the leadership.... I hate to say it, but growing up on a steady diet of Singletary in Chicago, I hope Webster keeps this up. He does have that hungry look in his eyes that my favorite linebacker of all time did.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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