Nugent, Trent to IR (and other roster moves)

[kingwilly]

Good think we swapped PS fullbacks, glad they are on top of who won't be blocking anyone, anytime soon.

...idiots.

This is China Syndrome.

[Kazkal]

Good think we swapped PS fullbacks, glad they are on top of who won't be blocking anyone, anytime soon.

...idiots.

This is China Syndrome.

Aye we just need to activate Presley to main roster and say Screw PS fullback spot,Wish we would have went and snatched briscoe back

[ArmyBengal]

In regard to Taylor Mays, are we talking about him preforming as well our player that has been in the NFL for how many years now ??

At least Mays has an upside. We already know that Ndukwe is part of where upgrade is needed on the roster.

Maybe after Mays has been given the same opportunities Ndukwe has, the argument may stand a bit stronger.

I personally think Ndukwe is garbage.

[jjakq27]

Antwan Odom gone for the remainder of the year (...was he ever really here?)

http://www.bengals.c...99-0166d4a79270

Right end Antwan Odom (wrist) became the fourth Bengals’ defensive lineman to go on injured reserve Thursday and his place was taken by end Victor Adeyanju. Adeyanju, a four-year veteran with the Rams when they released him afer this preseason, had been with the Bengals for less than a week last month when injuries in the secondary forced them to cut him

The 6-4, 284-pound Adeyanju has 26 starts in 53 games with three sacks, four fumble recoveries (one for an 89-yard touchdown) , and 178 tackles.

The move ends a miserable season for Odom, the team leader with eight sacks in the first six games last year before he ripped his Achilles' tendon. Since then he endured a virus and hurt his knee in training camp before being suspended for four games after testing positive for a banned substance. In his last game before the suspension, Oct. 10, he didn't start and broke his wrist. He ended up playing in just four games with eight tackles and a pass defensed.

[kingwilly]

Antwan Odom gone for the remainder of the year (...was he ever really here?)

http://www.bengals.c...99-0166d4a79270

Right end Antwan Odom (wrist) became the fourth Bengals' defensive lineman to go on injured reserve Thursday and his place was taken by end Victor Adeyanju. Adeyanju, a four-year veteran with the Rams when they released him afer this preseason, had been with the Bengals for less than a week last month when injuries in the secondary forced them to cut him

The 6-4, 284-pound Adeyanju has 26 starts in 53 games with three sacks, four fumble recoveries (one for an 89-yard touchdown) , and 178 tackles.

The move ends a miserable season for Odom, the team leader with eight sacks in the first six games last year before he ripped his Achilles' tendon. Since then he endured a virus and hurt his knee in training camp before being suspended for four games after testing positive for a banned substance. In his last game before the suspension, Oct. 10, he didn't start and broke his wrist. He ended up playing in just four games with eight tackles and a pass defensed.

And I think that pretty much closes the book on the Odom experiment. Lots of hype, little puffs of smoke, a short-bright flash and then a series of duds...

If the Bengals can get Dunlap to develop, they won't need Odom. And, now MJ will be entering year 3, Geathers can exit the side door. Grab another FA and get another strong props[ec tin the draft, and DE can have a bright future.

This offseason, should it be clear a labor deal ca get done, will require several FA moves on the defense.

[ArmyBengal]

Give me Dunlap and M. Johnson on either side and pair Peko up with a new fatass at DT and I would be happy.

Depending on where we end up picking, DT would be a strong consideration.

Is there a Suh-type of guy this season ?? I haven't paid much attention.

[Trevor]

There will never be a suh type player,.. dude is unbelievable... But failey out of auburn has good size talent and nasty attitude to be a step above tank johnson, idk if i want him or luck or the DE from NC

[jjakq27]

MB won't draft a tackle with a top 5 pick after getting burned on Big Daddy in 1994.

[BengalPimp]

Signed free agent K Clint Stitser of Fresno State. Stitser (6-1, 200) is in his rookie season in the NFL.

Are you serious? If he makes the team I'm buying his freakin Jersey....with a little creativity and some duct tape a carefully place it on the S and on the -er at the end....what does that give us??? tits

My new favorite player

[HoosierCat]

At least Mays has an upside.

Bengals. "Upside." Do we really want to go there?

Every year, the Bengals seem to corner the league in players with "upside." It's practically an offseason deity: Upside the Almighty, Lord of Potential and Patron God of Might-Yet-Be's.

If I had a nickel for every player with upside the Bengals have had in the past two decades, I'd have a crap load of nickels. And I'd trade 'em all for one lousy playoff win.

Re Odom: I still miss Justin Smith.

[jjakq27]

At least Mays has an upside.

Bengals. "Upside." Do we really want to go there?

Every year, the Bengals seem to corner the league in players with "upside." It's practically an offseason deity: Upside the Almighty, Lord of Potential and Patron God of Might-Yet-Be's.

If I had a nickel for every player with upside the Bengals have had in the past two decades, I'd have a crap load of nickels. And I'd trade 'em all for one lousy playoff win.

Re Odom: I still miss Justin Smith.

Give me guys that are pro-ready from day one every time. The risk of injury and perpetual roster turnover do not give teams the luxury of "bringing guys along". But we seem to like doing that for some reason.

[ArmyBengal]

I certainly agree that the Bengals seem to target the "upside" guys and many don't end up reaching that potential, but with this specific example, I'm merely stating that I would still take Mays and his "upside" to what we already know we have in ho hum Ndukwe. Nothing more. I also don't agree that not taking him speaks to some great decision because he hasn't done much this season. Last I recall, the Bengals admitted to making all attempts to trade up to get Mays, but couldn't get it done. Where's the great decision in not taking him come into play ??

I'd take Mays right now over almost any safety on our roster.

That's more an indictment of our current situation than how good Mays is I must admit though.

[Walrus]

Signed free agent K Clint Stitser of Fresno State. Stitser (6-1, 200) is in his rookie season in the NFL.

Are you serious? If he makes the team I'm buying his freakin Jersey....with a little creativity and some duct tape a carefully place it on the S and on the -er at the end....what does that give us??? tits

My new favorite player

The way this team has been playing, maybe you should hold out until they sign someone named "Staintser".

[jjakq27]

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2010/12/08/roster-move/

Placed CB Brandon Ghee on the Reserve/Injured list. Ghee, a rookie third-round draft selection, has been out of action since Nov. 21, when he suffered a groin injury in action vs. Buffalo. Ghee played in six games this season and currently ranks tied for third on the team in special teams tackles (six).

Signed rookie LB Vincent Rey to the roster from the Bengals practice squad. Rey (6-2, 244; Duke) first signed with the Bengals on April 30, as a college free agent. He played in all five preseason games and tied for third on the team in tackles (15). He was waived on Sept. 4 and signed to the practice squad on Sept. 5.

[Sea Ray]

I certainly agree that the Bengals seem to target the "upside" guys and many don't end up reaching that potential, but with this specific example, I'm merely stating that I would still take Mays and his "upside" to what we already know we have in ho hum Ndukwe. Nothing more. I also don't agree that not taking him speaks to some great decision because he hasn't done much this season. Last I recall, the Bengals admitted to making all attempts to trade up to get Mays, but couldn't get it done. Where's the great decision in not taking him come into play ??

I'd take Mays right now over almost any safety on our roster.

That's more an indictment of our current situation than how good Mays is I must admit though.

The issue isn't Ndukwe or Mays. It's Gresham or Mays. Nobody had an offer on the table of an Ndukwe for Mays trade so far as I know. Sure it'd be great to have Mays but we didn't have enough picks to grab him. I'd even go so far as to say I'd take Dunlap over Mays even though Mays was gone by the time we drafted Dunlap.

[jjakq27]

Bengals news

Signed FB Chris Pressley to the roster from the Bengals practice squad. Pressley (5-11, 260; Wisconsin) is a second-year NFL player. He opened the regular season on Tampa Bay's roster and was waived on Oct. 23 after playing in three games. He entered the NFL as a college free agent with the Bengals in 2009 and began the ?09 regular season on the Bengals practice squad. Later in '09, he was signed to Tampa Bay's roster and went on to play in seven games.

Placed CB Rico Murray on the Reserve/Injured list, due to an ankle injury he suffered in practice on Wednesday of this week. Murray played in four games this season, logging 14 tackles, three passes defensed and five special teams tackles.

[HoosierCat]

So our IR list is up to, what, 15 players now? Redonkulous.

Welcome back, Chris.

[Kazkal]

Pressley to the active,I like it because he's a young guy who we should see if he could be in the future plans.

Hopefully it works out I liked him alot during hard knocks.

[jjakq27]

So our IR list is up to, what, 15 players now? Redonkulous.

Here's this of roster changes for the season. I think I counted 11 since the season started.

http://www.bengals.c...ansactions.html

[jjakq27]

http://twitter.com/B...436815943499777

The Bengals today played S Chinedum Ndukwe, the team's leading tackler in the secondary, on the Reserve/Injured list. Ndukwe suffered a knee injury in Sunday's game at Pittsburgh. He has played in 12 games this season with five starts. His secondary-leading tackle total of 58 ranks fifth on the team, and he also has been credited with a sack, an interception, three passes defensed and a fumble recovery.

This makes the 15th player to season-ending IR this year.

[bwillycuse]

/>http://twitter.com/Bengals/statuses/14436815943499777

The Bengals today played S Chinedum Ndukwe, the team's leading tackler in the secondary, on the Reserve/Injured list. Ndukwe suffered a knee injury in Sunday's game at Pittsburgh. He has played in 12 games this season with five starts. His secondary-leading tackle total of 58 ranks fifth on the team, and he also has been credited with a sack, an interception, three passes defensed and a fumble recovery.

This makes the 15th player to season-ending IR this year.

I don't think we can judge this coaching staff on the results with all these injuries. I think they should stay fully intact until it can be proven without all of these injuries that they cant compete. If only we could stay healthy. Then we will truly be a contender. Everything else is in place.

Signed - Mike Brown

[HoosierCat]

I don't think we can judge this coaching staff on the results with all these injuries. I think they should stay fully intact until it can be proven without all of these injuries that they cant compete. If only we could stay healthy. Then we will truly be a contender. Everything else is in place.

Signed - Mike Brown

I actually agree with that up to a point. There are obviously many, many other issues that have nothing to do with injury, but there were three injuries that, in hindsight, really bit the team in the tail.

First, there was the Antonio Bryant debacle. Elsewhere it's been pointed out that most of Palmer's picks have been balls targeted to TO, and the two of them have had communication issues all year. If Bryant had gotten healthy and had all offseason to work with Palmer, or if they'd signed TO instead of Antonio at the beginning, things might be a bit different.

Then there's the Skin Zeppelin. First, he doesn't do his job recovering from injury in the offseason and comes into camp fat and out of condition, so he can't contribute early, and then when he finally does play his way into shape, he promptly gets hurt again. He may be a bust, but even so he was a major upgrade over Dennis "turnstile" Roland and his play was improving, but his inability to get and stay on the field pretty much ended any hopes for better o-line play in 2010.

And finally, Antwan Odom, who came back from injury way underweight due to illness (or lack of roids) and was completely ineffective, after spending the early part of the 2009 season looking like the Big Scary Pass Rusher this team has needed forever. Thank gawd for Dunlap, who gives me some hope that our next BSPR is on the roster. Unfortunately, given Bengals' history, it's at least as likely he'll regress as improve in 2011.

[HairOnFire]

I don't think we can judge this coaching staff on the results with all these injuries. I think they should stay fully intact until it can be proven without all of these injuries that they cant compete. If only we could stay healthy. Then we will truly be a contender. Everything else is in place.

Signed - Mike Brown

I actually agree with that up to a point.

Please, the season was ruined long before the flood of injuries.....and most of the significant injuries have been on defense. As for your three key injuries...

Antonio Bryant - I'm no fan of Owens but he did manage to replace Bryant adequately and most importantly....immediately. Even in retrospect it's hard to imagine any GM making as good a move, in reaction to an injury, as Brown did on this one. And that's a huge consideration, as it is the coaches who chose to feature Owens as the Bengals primary weapon rather than a complimentary one. The result has been horrific production on 3rd down, the most dropped passes by any WR in the NFL this season, the 2nd lowest efficiency rating by any WR, and the highest rate of interception.

Andre Smith - Perhaps a crushing blow to the teams long term plans, but again...his injury happened long after the season was already lost. Furthermore, I remind you again how "unconcerned" you were when Rolands preseason performance was being discussd. The truth of the matter is Dennis Roland has be protected or supported on nearly every play, and simply can't fill the role of RT in a traditional passpro blocking scheme. Yet that's exactly what the coaching staff built their offensive scheme around after abandoning Smashball. That decision exposed Roland and the entire O-line.

Antwan Odom - Probably the most glaring example of poor roster management I can think of, and not simply because of how poorly Odom played when available or how long he was unwisely kept off the IR before coaches accepted the inevitable. Rather, the companion decision to keep Carlos Dunlap inactive has been exposed as pure folly. Furthermore, the excuse offered about not wanting to hand Dunlap a job until he had earned it in practice is just a bunch of self serving crap that conveniently ignores how quickly this team handed starting roles and major playing time to players like Gresham and Shipley. Both of those players were handed their jobs on draft day.

Bottom line, while I can easily imagine Mike Brown pointing to injuries as an excuse for his coaches poor performance this season it simply isn't true. Their performance can be judged very easily and the results are woefully inferior....regardless of whether Brown finds them acceptable.

[ArmyBengal]

I'll go out there and say as well that anyone wishing to place this team's issues on injury is a smidge off.

This season was set ablaze long before the injuries started mounting up and I just don't buy it.

You know who will buy it though ??

Mike Brown

Looking forward to 2011 with Lewis, Bratkowski, and Palmer !!!

Start the campaign to bring back Chad and T.O. as well.

F*CK F*CK F*CK F*CK !!!

[HoosierCat]

Please, the season was ruined long before the flood of injuries

I never said it wasn't, only that I'm willing to grant they've played a role. And notably, all the injuries I'm talking about (with the exception of Smith's second one) all happened before the season.

And that's a huge consideration, as it is the coaches who chose to feature Owens as the Bengals primary weapon rather than a complimentary one. The result has been horrific production on 3rd down, the most dropped passes by any WR in the NFL this season, the 2nd lowest efficiency rating by any WR, and the highest rate of interception.

Well, given how you were pointing out all the same things about Chad prior to the season, doesn't that suggest something? That perhaps it's not about who is in the role of No. 1 WR on this team, but the plays called. Chad, now in a complimentary role, isn't getting picked nearly as much, while TO is now an interception machine.

Andre Smith - Perhaps a crushing blow to the teams long term plans, but again...his injury happened long after the season was already lost.

Go back and read the post again. I was talking primarily about his injury from last year, surgery and failure to recover.

Furthermore, I remind you again how "unconcerned" you were when Rolands preseason performance was being discussd.

Actually, I think you're off by a year. They guy I was "unconcerned" about was Collins, when I preferred passing on Smith and take Raji, a call I foolishly let you talk me out of.

Antwan Odom - Probably the most glaring example of poor roster management I can think of, and not simply because of how poorly Odom played when available or how long he was unwisely kept off the IR before coaches accepted the inevitable. Rather, the companion decision to keep Carlos Dunlap inactive has been exposed as pure folly.

I agree completely. Yet the fact remains that a great deal of our preseason hopes for this year's team relied on Odom returning, as well as Bryant being a better replacement for Housh than Coles and Smith living up to his draft status. Yet by the time we got to opening day Bryant had been cut, Smith was on the bench and Odom was a protein-shake-pounding stick figure.

Bottom line, while I can easily imagine Mike Brown pointing to injuries as an excuse for his coaches poor performance this season it simply isn't true. Their performance can be judged very easily and the results are woefully inferior....regardless of whether Brown finds them acceptable.

Again, I said I only agreed to a point. Injuries don't excuse leaving Dunlap on the sidelines for so long, or the playcalling issues exposed by the switch to TO as the No. 1 guy, or the failure to have a better backup plan in the predictable circumstance that Moobs showed up like he did. Nor do injuries explain why the D can't tackle or why the o-line has regressed or why Benson suddenly can't hold onto the ball or why after a penalty-filled 2009 season we have a penalty-filled 2010 season or any one of many, many other issues. But injuries had their part in setting the stage for this whole debacle, too.