If Dez falls should the Bengals take him?

[walzav29]

He is a hell of a talent, BUT I think it's a guaranteed holdout and a contract nightmare down the road. I still say focus on the D and get Gilyard in the 3rd. If he is there I don't think the Bengals can resist though. Starting to get fired up. A great draft and a SB run is in front of the Bengals!

[cincyhokie]

He is a hell of a talent, BUT I think it's a guaranteed holdout and a contract nightmare down the road. I still say focus on the D and get Gilyard in the 3rd. If he is there I don't think the Bengals can resist though. Starting to get fired up. A great draft and a SB run is in front of the Bengals!

Denver will draft him.

[ArmyBengal]

Well, "IF" he were to fall, which I don't think he will, I think the Bengals should draft him. He will bring some more explosion to the WR corps and prepare for a future without Chad in it. I like the thought of a 4 WR set including Chad, Antonio, Caldwell, and Dez. Yeah, there are some other issues, but none large enough to keep me from wanting Dez. You want nightmares for an opposing defense ?? Keep thinking that 4 WR set and it simply puts a big smile on my face.

[BengalPappaw]

Seems like too many teams ahead of the Bengals are now in need of or lust for a WR. especially the Browns, Broncos, and Steelers.

I'd like to see Dez at 21 for us.

[ArmyBengal]

With what appears to be a trade involving Marshall going to the Dolphins, you might as well pencil Bryant going to the Broncos at this point.

/>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/14/broncos-trade-brandon-marshall-to-miami/

[Ickey44]

With what appears to be a trade involving Marshall going to the Dolphins, you might as well pencil Bryant going to the Broncos at this point.

/>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/14/broncos-trade-brandon-marshall-to-miami/

Agreed. Although, I would hesitate to take him even if he were there at 21. He apparently has a history of being late, not practicing, and, at times, lack of effort. Those are the same things that Marvin canned Rudi for a couple of years ago. I seriously doubt Marvin is interested in Bryant.

I see them going defense in Round 1. Either a pass rusher or a safety. I think they'll grab a TE or WR in the 2nd.

[walzav29]

With what appears to be a trade involving Marshall going to the Dolphins, you might as well pencil Bryant going to the Broncos at this point.

/>http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/14/broncos-trade-brandon-marshall-to-miami/

I can't see Denver and Pitt getting rid of questionable character guys and bringing in Bryant.

[DC_Bengals_Fan]

Agreed. Although, I would hesitate to take him even if he were there at 21. He apparently has a history of being late, not practicing, and, at times, lack of effort. Those are the same things that Marvin canned Rudi for a couple of years ago.

Agreed. Usually when you see the 'problem children' pan out, it turns out that while they may be jackasses who mouth off to coaches or get in trouble off the field, they also work hard in practice. Take Brandon Marshall - by all accounts, he worked his but off despite being a clown. Chad too - outside of his 'lost' season, he generally works hard in practice.

So when I hear lazy, I get concerned. I'm not saying for sure don't take him, but I'd want to see more due diligence on this pick than the Bengals are typically known for.

[James_Brooks21]

This topic should be officaly closed out now that the Broncos have traded Marshall, there is no way that Bryant slips past the Broncos. If people want to talk receiver for the Bengals they better talk second or third round and the names should be Damian Williams or Shipley. This Dez Bryant to the Bengals stuff is dead. I will be happy as hell when they select Gresham in the first round next week, what a great weapon that we will have.

[ChadJohnson-85]

This topic should be officaly closed out now that the Broncos have traded Marshall, there is no way that Bryant slips past the Broncos. If people want to talk receiver for the Bengals they better talk second or third round and the names should be Damian Williams or Shipley. This Dez Bryant to the Bengals stuff is dead. I will be happy as hell when they select Gresham in the first round next week, what a great weapon that we will have.

Well it's very possible the Broncos will NOT take Dez due to his character issues. Isn't that ONE of the reasons why they were shopping Marshall? Why would they go and draft another bad character? Don't make any sense to me really... I see the Broncos going WR in round 2. As for the Steelers, pretty much the same as above. BUT, I do agree that Dez probably won't be there. Dallas might trade up in front of us to take Dez or maybe just Mays. Who knows.

But I really wouldn't be surprised if he were there. Will we take him? Maybe if JPP and Mays are both gone.

[kingwilly]

I doubt Dez falls to 21 after recent developments.

It is pissing me off that Miami is getting Marshall for a r2 pick, and the tender he just signed. He would be PERFECT insurance, and the final piece of the offensive puzzle, in making sure the WR corp has enough talent and bodies to not fail, like it did last year.

NADS.

[derekshank]

Would anyone be interested in giving up a 5th round pick for Ted Ginn? He might not be more than a 3rd WR in the NFL, but he's got the vertical speed the Bengals lack, and he's a great return man.

Just a thought, as it looks like that's what Miami is trying to do.

[redsbengalsbucks]

Would anyone be interested in giving up a 5th round pick for Ted Ginn? He might not be more than a 3rd WR in the NFL, but he's got the vertical speed the Bengals lack, and he's a great return man.

Just a thought, as it looks like that's what Miami is trying to do.

I'd jump on that. He is a proven NFL ready WR, even if it is only as a #3 or #4. At the very least he is a better bet than any unproven Rd. 5 pick to make the team.

[skyline]

I doubt Dez falls to 21 after recent developments.

It is pissing me off that Miami is getting Marshall for a r2 pick, and the tender he just signed. He would be PERFECT insurance, and the final piece of the offensive puzzle, in making sure the WR corp has enough talent and bodies to not fail, like it did last year.

NADS.

Well, it was actually 2 round 2 picks. One this year and one next.

Too high a price for me considering his past. One more strike and he's gone for a long vacation. Too much risk in my opinion when the Bengals are getting good enough that they can afford to build through the draft and don't need any blockbuster fixes to get on track.

[HairOnFire]

Would anyone be interested in giving up a 5th round pick for Ted Ginn? He might not be more than a 3rd WR in the NFL, but he's got the vertical speed the Bengals lack, and he's a great return man.

Sure, but my level of interest would be based largely on his value as a kick returner and would be linked to the cost involved.

That said, I think the question is better directed towards one of the true Bastard Sons of Paul Brown as I suspect Ted Ginn isn't sufficiently proven to reduce their demands for three new pass catchers OR their willingness to secure each of those new pass catchers with a very early pick.

For example, Hoosier is currently pimping the 1st round pick be used to select Gresham, and he further states he wants two more pass catchers added as well. So who amongst us thinks he's willing to wait until the 5th round for those two "needs" to be addressed? Anybody?

Bottom Line: Ted Ginn or no Ted Ginn I'm guessing nothing will stop the Bastard Son's familiar cry for more, more, more.

[BengalByTheBay]

Would anyone be interested in giving up a 5th round pick for Ted Ginn? He might not be more than a 3rd WR in the NFL, but he's got the vertical speed the Bengals lack, and he's a great return man.

Sure, but my level of interest would be based largely on his value as a kick returner and would be linked to the cost involved.

That said, I think the question is better directed towards one of the true Bastard Sons of Paul Brown as I suspect Ted Ginn isn't sufficiently proven to reduce their demands for three new pass catchers OR their willingness to secure each of those new pass catchers with a very early pick.

For example, Hoosier is currently pimping the 1st round pick be used to select Gresham, and he further states he wants two more pass catchers added as well. So who amongst us thinks he's willing to wait until the 5th round for those two "needs" to be addressed? Anybody?

Bottom Line: Ted Ginn or no Ted Ginn I'm guessing nothing will stop the Bastard Son's familiar cry for more, more, more.

Personally, I think Ginn might be the kind of guy the Bengals would seriously consider. Yeah, they don't get too active in trades, so it's a long shot in the first place. But, the market for him is probably pretty soft and the trade value (as opposed to whatever the contract value may be) is, by all appearances, pretty low (4th or 5th rounder?). He would provide a one-dimensional homerun threat as a WR similar to the late Chris Henry. He provides better value in the sense that he would start immediately for this team as a returner. If he could do spot duty on ST's he'd be the perfect Bengal target. I'd be pleased if they made a run at Ted Ginn.

[ArmyBengal]

If Damian Williams would fall to us in the 2nd, I would do backflips...

[Kazkal]

Agreed. Although, I would hesitate to take him even if he were there at 21. He apparently has a history of being late, not practicing, and, at times, lack of effort. Those are the same things that Marvin canned Rudi for a couple of years ago.

Would be interesting to see if Mike Brown would vito Marvins opinion on Byrant though,Which is probably part of the problem with him extending is Mikey doesn't wanna give u p his power.

PS,I would punch a hole in to my monitor if we gave up a 4th for Ginn...Most he is worth is a 6th the dude isn't even a WR he's simply a returner...

[Whur CHad At?]

Yes we should draft him. To those who are worried about a holdout, well all I have to say is anyone who we draft will be holding out so yeah.

[HoosierCat]

For example, Hoosier is currently pimping the 1st round pick be used to select Gresham, and he further states he wants two more pass catchers added as well.

Yup. But I don't think you'll have worry about that, with rumors now that Gresham may get snapped up by the Giants well ahead of our pick.

[Kazkal]

For example, Hoosier is currently pimping the 1st round pick be used to select Gresham, and he further states he wants two more pass catchers added as well.

Yup. But I don't think you'll have worry about that, with rumors now that Gresham may get snapped up by the Giants well ahead of our pick.

Haven't heard anything on that,aren't they happy with Like a boss

[HoosierCat]

For example, Hoosier is currently pimping the 1st round pick be used to select Gresham, and he further states he wants two more pass catchers added as well.

Yup. But I don't think you'll have worry about that, with rumors now that Gresham may get snapped up by the Giants well ahead of our pick.

Haven't heard anything on that,aren't they happy with Like a boss

Well, the rumor mill has them digging heavily into Gresham and Iupati. Real or smoke? Who knows.

[Kazkal]

For example, Hoosier is currently pimping the 1st round pick be used to select Gresham, and he further states he wants two more pass catchers added as well.

Yup. But I don't think you'll have worry about that, with rumors now that Gresham may get snapped up by the Giants well ahead of our pick.

Haven't heard anything on that,aren't they happy with Like a boss

Well, the rumor mill has them digging heavily into Gresham and Iupati. Real or smoke? Who knows.

Hmmmm Iupati I could,Hmmmm well if they do go that route just means one more player shoould be available for us to choose from and still should be some sexy TE's in the 2nd.

PS,though if we go off what couches say were looking for Nickle CB and DT on Defense.

http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2010/04/07/who-dey-think-gonna-score-on-them-bengals/

[HoosierCat]

Personally, if I were the Giants, I would be targeting someone like Witherspoon at LB. But Iupati makes sense from a draft-to-strength standpoint. The Giants have a good o-line but it's aging and lacks punch; Iupati is a mauler who with a year's training could easily give them an elite guard tandem and possible future RT.

[Kazkal]

Was it a couch came out and said they liked these players or just like requests of info coming out in open? like bengals requesting medical records for Gresham,Hernandez & Dickerson

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2010/4/8/1411988/reedy-bengals-have-zeroed-in-on

I agree with Linebacker making most sense they should have a shot at the top OLB in the draft and after missing out on Karlos Dansby and didn't they cut pierce? so Linebacker should be a huge need.